I never saw it either, and never saw anything about it that made me want to. Once it was out of theaters, I don't think I ever heard another word about it.
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I liked TFA and I feel like it was probably the best Star Wars film to date except maybe ESB?
The ending was stupidly drawn out, though. I don't think they needed five minutes of Rey wandering towards Luke to close out the movie. Really shoulda been left for 8.
I loved Finn, he was an amazing character, his interactions with Rey felt very genuine.
Kylo Ren was silly but also great, anakin done right.
Pew pew vrrrsh boom boooom.
Coulda done with less blatant nostalgia. The Millennium Falcon felt like overkill. L
I liked it but did they really have to make episode 4 again? Also why didn't anyone give a crap about those five blown up planets? Like was that the republic Senate or no? And I guess they teach stormtroopers sword fighting, which is why Finn didn't die ten times? Good action, fine acting, too little explanation of what was going on in the galaxy, still very conflicted about the extreme new hope parallels.
The first half of the movie was magnificent. Rey and Finn are wonderfully cast and acted (except a couple of very very minor quibbles.) The setup, story, everything was really great. The second half was good, but something got lost along the way (I think it was about the time the StarKiller got trotted out). Something of the heart and soul that was built up in the first part got lost. From about CP3O up until the Falcon landed on the snow planet was too kitschy and forced nostalgia.
I do agree that no motivation or even much background was given to why the StarKiller got fired, not even the simple excuse the first star wars had for firing upon Alderaan.
Overall, the movie gets a solid B+ from me.
Aside: My wife and I were talking about Avatar recently. We realized as well that the movie had no cultural impact whatsoever. Flash in the pan, make a billion, done. Like so many action movies out there. Had no soul.
The first half of the movie was magnificent. Rey and Finn are wonderfully cast and acted (except a couple of very very minor quibbles.) The setup, story, everything was really great. The second half was good, but something got lost along the way (I think it was about the time the StarKiller got trotted out). Something of the heart and soul that was built up in the first part got lost. From about CP3O up until the Falcon landed on the snow planet was too kitschy and forced nostalgia.
I do agree that no motivation or even much background was given to why the StarKiller got fired, not even the simple excuse the first star wars had for firing upon Alderaan.
Overall, the movie gets a solid B+ from me.
Aside: My wife and I were talking about Avatar recently. We realized as well that the movie had no cultural impact whatsoever. Flash in the pan, make a billion, done. Like so many action movies out there. Had no soul.
Starkiller
The First Order is pissed that the Republic is (not so) secretly funding and supporting the Resistance after the cease fire, which feeds their persecution complexes even more and incites them to seek vengeance against that perceived aggression as well as retaliation for the destruction of the Empire in the first place. "Traitors, Murderers, and Thieves" Kylo Ren calls the Resistance and its Republic allies when he's interrogating Rey.
The planets being targeted were where the Republic Senate was set up and where the bulk of the Republic Army was stationed. It was an all-out assault to cut out the Republic entirely so that the Resistance would have to stand on their own. They don't destroy the the planet that Maz's refuge is on with the Starkiller because they still need the map to Luke that is in the BB-8 unit there.
The first half of the movie was magnificent. Rey and Finn are wonderfully cast and acted (except a couple of very very minor quibbles.) The setup, story, everything was really great. The second half was good, but something got lost along the way (I think it was about the time the StarKiller got trotted out). Something of the heart and soul that was built up in the first part got lost. From about CP3O up until the Falcon landed on the snow planet was too kitschy and forced nostalgia.
I do agree that no motivation or even much background was given to why the StarKiller got fired, not even the simple excuse the first star wars had for firing upon Alderaan.
Overall, the movie gets a solid B+ from me.
Aside: My wife and I were talking about Avatar recently. We realized as well that the movie had no cultural impact whatsoever. Flash in the pan, make a billion, done. Like so many action movies out there. Had no soul.
Starkiller
The First Order is pissed that the Republic is (not so) secretly funding and supporting the Resistance after the cease fire, which feeds their persecution complexes even more and incites them to seek vengeance against that perceived aggression as well as retaliation for the destruction of the Empire in the first place. "Traitors, Murderers, and Thieves" Kylo Ren calls the Resistance and its Republic allies when he's interrogating Rey.
The planets being targeted were where the Republic Senate was set up and where the bulk of the Republic Army was stationed. It was an all-out assault to cut out the Republic entirely so that the Resistance would have to stand on their own. They don't destroy the the planet that Maz's refuge is on with the Starkiller because they still need the map to Luke that is in the BB-8 unit there.
Traitors, murderers and thieves just rings so incredibly hollow from a guy that betrayed his teacher, murdered a bunch of people, murdered his own dad, and works for an organization that kidnaps children at birth, indoctrinates them, and literally committed genocide on a incomprehensible scale by blowing up 5 inhabited planets.
Avatar is this weird thing that is somehow the most profitable movie of all time and has made ZERO cultural impact.
I couldn't tell you the lead characters' names right now if you held a gun to my head.
I mean, I'm old though, so there could be some huge Avatar thing that all the kids are into and I'm oblivious.
I don't get it either. I found it pretty forgettable and actually kind of ugly.
Guess people were just really batshit for 3D.
Avatar had a few things going for it.
Nobody had made a movie that actually did 3D right up until Avatar. So when this big, bright, "unique" special effects movie came along and used 3D it for depth of field instead of "OH MAN LOOK AT THIS SPEAR COMING RIGHT FOR YOU!" it made everyone go back a few times just to see the technology.
Avatar came out during such a movie dry spot that it maintained #1 for like a month and a half. Titanic did the same thing. Cameron knows how to pick release dates. Star Wars is about to do something very similar though it faces a little bit of competition from the late-season Oscar movies and some upcoming sequels. That being said it's seeing really small drops this weekend so who knows?
Avatar did insanely well in foreign markets, with 2 billion dollars alone coming from overseas. That's 72% of its box office total. By comparison The Avengers only got like ~900 million overseas, less than 60% of its total, and it's the fucking Avengers.
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Is the logo on the side of his helmet accurate? If so it looks really close to the Last Starfighter logo!
The first half of the movie was magnificent. Rey and Finn are wonderfully cast and acted (except a couple of very very minor quibbles.) The setup, story, everything was really great. The second half was good, but something got lost along the way (I think it was about the time the StarKiller got trotted out). Something of the heart and soul that was built up in the first part got lost. From about CP3O up until the Falcon landed on the snow planet was too kitschy and forced nostalgia.
I do agree that no motivation or even much background was given to why the StarKiller got fired, not even the simple excuse the first star wars had for firing upon Alderaan.
Overall, the movie gets a solid B+ from me.
Aside: My wife and I were talking about Avatar recently. We realized as well that the movie had no cultural impact whatsoever. Flash in the pan, make a billion, done. Like so many action movies out there. Had no soul.
Starkiller
The First Order is pissed that the Republic is (not so) secretly funding and supporting the Resistance after the cease fire, which feeds their persecution complexes even more and incites them to seek vengeance against that perceived aggression as well as retaliation for the destruction of the Empire in the first place. "Traitors, Murderers, and Thieves" Kylo Ren calls the Resistance and its Republic allies when he's interrogating Rey.
The planets being targeted were where the Republic Senate was set up and where the bulk of the Republic Army was stationed. It was an all-out assault to cut out the Republic entirely so that the Resistance would have to stand on their own. They don't destroy the the planet that Maz's refuge is on with the Starkiller because they still need the map to Luke that is in the BB-8 unit there.
Traitors, murderers and thieves just rings so incredibly hollow from a guy that betrayed his teacher, murdered a bunch of people, murdered his own dad, and works for an organization that kidnaps children at birth, indoctrinates them, and literally committed genocide on a incomprehensible scale by blowing up 5 inhabited planets.
Him saying it almost doesn't even make sense.
It sure does.
Kylo Ren and the rest of the First Order are gigantic hypocrites. Ren himself is a whiny, petulant child with anger issues.
The first half of the movie was magnificent. Rey and Finn are wonderfully cast and acted (except a couple of very very minor quibbles.) The setup, story, everything was really great. The second half was good, but something got lost along the way (I think it was about the time the StarKiller got trotted out). Something of the heart and soul that was built up in the first part got lost. From about CP3O up until the Falcon landed on the snow planet was too kitschy and forced nostalgia.
I do agree that no motivation or even much background was given to why the StarKiller got fired, not even the simple excuse the first star wars had for firing upon Alderaan.
Overall, the movie gets a solid B+ from me.
Aside: My wife and I were talking about Avatar recently. We realized as well that the movie had no cultural impact whatsoever. Flash in the pan, make a billion, done. Like so many action movies out there. Had no soul.
Starkiller
The First Order is pissed that the Republic is (not so) secretly funding and supporting the Resistance after the cease fire, which feeds their persecution complexes even more and incites them to seek vengeance against that perceived aggression as well as retaliation for the destruction of the Empire in the first place. "Traitors, Murderers, and Thieves" Kylo Ren calls the Resistance and its Republic allies when he's interrogating Rey.
The planets being targeted were where the Republic Senate was set up and where the bulk of the Republic Army was stationed. It was an all-out assault to cut out the Republic entirely so that the Resistance would have to stand on their own. They don't destroy the the planet that Maz's refuge is on with the Starkiller because they still need the map to Luke that is in the BB-8 unit there.
Traitors, murderers and thieves just rings so incredibly hollow from a guy that betrayed his teacher, murdered a bunch of people, murdered his own dad, and works for an organization that kidnaps children at birth, indoctrinates them, and literally committed genocide on a incomprehensible scale by blowing up 5 inhabited planets.
The thing about Kylo is that like most zealots the only cause that matters is HIS cause. You can't betray the enemy because they don't matter but going against the order is the worst sin.
Avatar was a simple story without much in the way of hidden depth and that I didn't feel was particularly well told. The movie probably had more words than Mad Max: Fury Road, but it had far fewer interesting lines than Fury Road. And fewer memorable characters than Fury Road. And I should probably stop comparing every movie to Fury Road.
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Nah, people can not like the things you like, its no big deal.
Of course, I had a few critiques of it myself but I can understand some of that frustration as a star wars nerd to finally be handed a decent star wars film after about thirty years and see it get picked to pieces. And just thought it was pretty funny.
People have every right to criticize the film but I also get the draw some people have to defend this one in particular.
The first half of the movie was magnificent. Rey and Finn are wonderfully cast and acted (except a couple of very very minor quibbles.) The setup, story, everything was really great. The second half was good, but something got lost along the way (I think it was about the time the StarKiller got trotted out). Something of the heart and soul that was built up in the first part got lost. From about CP3O up until the Falcon landed on the snow planet was too kitschy and forced nostalgia.
I do agree that no motivation or even much background was given to why the StarKiller got fired, not even the simple excuse the first star wars had for firing upon Alderaan.
Overall, the movie gets a solid B+ from me.
Aside: My wife and I were talking about Avatar recently. We realized as well that the movie had no cultural impact whatsoever. Flash in the pan, make a billion, done. Like so many action movies out there. Had no soul.
Starkiller
The First Order is pissed that the Republic is (not so) secretly funding and supporting the Resistance after the cease fire, which feeds their persecution complexes even more and incites them to seek vengeance against that perceived aggression as well as retaliation for the destruction of the Empire in the first place. "Traitors, Murderers, and Thieves" Kylo Ren calls the Resistance and its Republic allies when he's interrogating Rey.
The planets being targeted were where the Republic Senate was set up and where the bulk of the Republic Army was stationed. It was an all-out assault to cut out the Republic entirely so that the Resistance would have to stand on their own. They don't destroy the the planet that Maz's refuge is on with the Starkiller because they still need the map to Luke that is in the BB-8 unit there.
Traitors, murderers and thieves just rings so incredibly hollow from a guy that betrayed his teacher, murdered a bunch of people, murdered his own dad, and works for an organization that kidnaps children at birth, indoctrinates them, and literally committed genocide on a incomprehensible scale by blowing up 5 inhabited planets.
Nah, people can not like the things you like, its no big deal.
They sure can, but lately I've seen a boom in the popularity of these "Everything Wrong With X Movie" lists and they rub me the wrong way
It kinda makes it sound like these are comprehensive lists of factually correct negative things, as opposed to the opinions they are, and moreover, half the time it's shit like "you can't see visible earpieces on any of the Avengers, how are they communicating in the field"
Nah, people can not like the things you like, its no big deal.
They sure can, but lately I've seen a boom in the popularity of these "Everything Wrong With X Movie" lists and they rub me the wrong way
It kinda makes it sound like these are comprehensive lists of factually correct negative things, as opposed to the opinions they are, and moreover, half the time it's shit like "you can't see visible earpieces on any of the Avengers, how are they communicating in the field"
Oh yeah for sure, have an opinion about stuff but don't be a dingus about it.
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I loved Finn, he was an amazing character, his interactions with Rey felt very genuine.
Kylo Ren was silly but also great, anakin done right.
Pew pew vrrrsh boom boooom.
Coulda done with less blatant nostalgia. The Millennium Falcon felt like overkill. L
gonna spoiler that because related youtube videos are fucking stupid
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The main conflict is over a material called unobtainium, in case you ever need to see a literary device inserted directly into film.
There is no accounting for taste.
I do agree that no motivation or even much background was given to why the StarKiller got fired, not even the simple excuse the first star wars had for firing upon Alderaan.
Overall, the movie gets a solid B+ from me.
Aside: My wife and I were talking about Avatar recently. We realized as well that the movie had no cultural impact whatsoever. Flash in the pan, make a billion, done. Like so many action movies out there. Had no soul.
Starkiller
The planets being targeted were where the Republic Senate was set up and where the bulk of the Republic Army was stationed. It was an all-out assault to cut out the Republic entirely so that the Resistance would have to stand on their own. They don't destroy the the planet that Maz's refuge is on with the Starkiller because they still need the map to Luke that is in the BB-8 unit there.
Him saying it almost doesn't even make sense.
Born to Ill!
The bit on the other side of his helmet says "BORN TO ILL" on it
edit: DAMN YOU HONOVERE
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Nobody had made a movie that actually did 3D right up until Avatar. So when this big, bright, "unique" special effects movie came along and used 3D it for depth of field instead of "OH MAN LOOK AT THIS SPEAR COMING RIGHT FOR YOU!" it made everyone go back a few times just to see the technology.
Avatar came out during such a movie dry spot that it maintained #1 for like a month and a half. Titanic did the same thing. Cameron knows how to pick release dates. Star Wars is about to do something very similar though it faces a little bit of competition from the late-season Oscar movies and some upcoming sequels. That being said it's seeing really small drops this weekend so who knows?
Avatar did insanely well in foreign markets, with 2 billion dollars alone coming from overseas. That's 72% of its box office total. By comparison The Avengers only got like ~900 million overseas, less than 60% of its total, and it's the fucking Avengers.
It sure does.
That's essentially the entire point.
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Closest I could guess from the few photos I was able to find.
Yeah I just looked at a picture of the action figure. Really looks like the Last Starfighter logo even on there!
It stems from avatar having a weak story and absolutely impressive cgi effects. Everyone went for the effects. The story was just moot.
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It absolutely makes sense
I remember watching avatar and thinking this is really fucking stupid.
Probably my favorite TFA tweet at the moment.
Nah, people can not like the things you like, its no big deal.
People have every right to criticize the film but I also get the draw some people have to defend this one in particular.
No one is the bad guy in their own story...
They sure can, but lately I've seen a boom in the popularity of these "Everything Wrong With X Movie" lists and they rub me the wrong way
It kinda makes it sound like these are comprehensive lists of factually correct negative things, as opposed to the opinions they are, and moreover, half the time it's shit like "you can't see visible earpieces on any of the Avengers, how are they communicating in the field"
Oh yeah for sure, have an opinion about stuff but don't be a dingus about it.
(Dingus is a funny word.)
This isn't a tweet about how people can't like things, it's about how no one gives a shit you don't care
People that run in whenever someone says they like something with "actually, it's bad" get my fuckin goat