I think it is time for Mike Jones to be a smash character. And maybe it could revive the series.
Gotta dream.
I'd love it, but I have to admit that there's an awful lot of conceptual overlap in his abilities with Ness and Lucas. Baseball enthusiast? Check.Yo-Yo as main weapon? Check. Psychic powers (from the second game)? Check. Even some of his other more memorable things are covered by others (like Villager's slingshot) or items (like the ray gun).
The few things that really stands out to me are the throwing stars that move in straight horizontal or vertical lines, and then split into two going perpendicular to the original trajectory if you press the button again while they're still in flight. Also that his final smash should be the magic snowman that freezes every foe on screen for a short bit (but it should not be enough time to whale on more than one). I guess his flying kick with cleats, and the magic anklet that extend jump distance would work well for aerial play?
Mike can walk across normal ground, it's just tiles he has to hop between for some reason. Dunno how you'd model that in smash though.
Hrm, maybe his Up-B recovery is summoning a series of tiles he can hop across. You hit it and then input a secondary direction in which the tiles spawn, and then you hop from tile to tile, damaging anyone in the way/in the area the tiles appear.
No matter which characters get added or removed, I hope we finally get a vocal version of Pollyanna on the soundtrack. Sung by Sakurai himself if need be.
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Longshot wish for new characters: not my idea, but Sami (Domino) from the Nintendo Wars series. Project M was going to use her as a stand-in for Solid Snake to avoid any potential beef from Konami, but the more I think about it, I feel like Bayonetta, Mega Man, and Gunner Mii show they can make gun-centric characters work well and I'd like to see them do something along those lines with Sami.
If you're curious about the weapons (I had to look up photos to identify the one furthest right)
No matter which characters get added or removed, I hope we finally get a vocal version of Pollyanna on the soundtrack. Sung by Sakurai himself if need be.
RE: soundtrack stuff, I'd love it if they included / had an optional download (for file size reasons) of all of the songs from previous games. Brawl especially had such a solid set of remixes and orchestrations, that going forward to Smash 4 and not having it all felt like a downgrade in some senses. I think it is great that they insist on making new music for each game, but if you've got such good material already it feels criminal to not use it.
A few days late with this, but... played a lot of 8-man Smash U at Pax East, and a lot of 3-man as well. I had forgotten how good it is. It is quite good. Like, it's a pretty terrific refinement of the series in all ways. (Obviously.)
If Smash Switch is a port, I think I'll be okay with it.
A few days late with this, but... played a lot of 8-man Smash U at Pax East, and a lot of 3-man as well. I had forgotten how good it is. It is quite good. Like, it's a pretty terrific refinement of the series in all ways. (Obviously.)
If Smash Switch is a port, I think I'll be okay with it.
That's part of the reason I'd be surprised if all the work for Smash 4 gets thrown out... it was damn solid and pretty much everybody loved it (well, aside from the MELEE OR DIE crowd).
↑B Bat Form (can fly for a time, very light & vulnerable in this form)
→B Alucard's Sword special move (quickly teleports a medium distance forward, appears facing the other way to slash twice, then returns)
↓B Summon Familiar (behaves like Shulk's Monado Arts neutral special; familiars only remain for a short time)
1-5 (random) Bats, who will swoop out one at a time, inflicting a light hit on enemies that hit you
Fairy will purge any negative special conditions and one loss-of-control effect
Ghost slowly flies towards the nearest enemy, but if it can latch on it will slow their motion down; rolling has a chance to shake it off
Imp occasionally casts a ranged attack spell at the last enemy you attacked, which does high shield damage
Sword guards your back, periodically darting out to perform a strong vertical circular slash on enemies that get within a certain distance behind you
Final Smash: Dark Metamorphosis (boosts Alucard's stats for a time, familiars don't expire, and causes his successful melee attacks to reduce his damage taken)
Shovel Knight
following Mega Man's lead, would try to use any relics or upgrade abilities not mentioned below in various attacks (excluding Troupple Chalices), such as:
Drop Spark for down smash
Charge Handle for smash attack
Dust Knuckle for forward aerial
Phase Locket instead of rolling
Uses Fishing Rod as a tether for holds and recovery
B Throwing Anchor (like Castlevania's axe)
↑B Propeller Dagger (combines Custom Knights' Rising Dagger; works like Fire Fox but has increased distance the less vertical climb you attempt)
↓B Dragon Fireballs (large fireball that travels down at 45° angle)
Final Smash: Invincible Fire Wheel (become wreathed in small fireballs for a time) with 2x Shadow Clones (intangeable except attacks, copy Ryu's actions) for duration
Quote/Curly Brace from Cave Story
Uses King's Sword for basic attacks (smashes send out ghost like Lv. 3 version)
B Spur (sorta like ray gun item, but can charge to fire increasingly wide beams)
↑B Booster 2.5 (works like Fire Fox)
→B Super Missile Launcher (fires 3 hard-hitting missiles in a narrow spread)
↓B Fireball (powerful projectiles that bounce along ground & off walls for a time, up to 3 on-screen at a time)
Final Smash: The other android appears and follows you around on a tether Ice Climbers style, shooting in opposite direction you attack
Shantae
I haven't played Shantae yet, so I don't have any ideas for her, but she seems like a neat character who fits in well, and the series gets a lot of praise
Frog from Chrono Trigger
moderately fast moving, with big jump, but basic attacks are slow & strong
ranged grab using tongue like the Slurp Cut tech, also uses it as a tether for recovery
B Water Spell (chargeable, turns from simple projectile to one that bursts to hit an area)
↑B Leap Slash (like Kirby's up special)
→B Masa & Mune (attack with the spirits in sword, but reduces its strength; each Fox Illusions out, then hovers in place, press 3rd time & they'll X-Strike back to Frog)
Final Smash: Frog Squash (just like his final tech; summons a giant frog to fall down on every foe on screen, hurts damaged foes more)
Strider Hiryu
B Gram (Strider's massive superslash from the Marvel vs Capcom games)
↑B Vajra (ninja disappearing/reappearing trick, press A in-between to turn into divekick variant)
→B Formation Options (launches shield drone forward, angle up for robot hawk to hit targets in air, angle down for robot panther to hit multiple ground targets)
↓B Plasma Forms (another Shulk's Monado Arts type move: temporarily activates an advanced form of Cypher blade)
Explosive Cypher (Smashes have the flame effect, Gram also explodes enemies for heavy shield damage)
Magnetic Cypher (Smashes fire a boomerang projectile that moves in a big loop, Gram reflects projectiles)
Ultra-Cold Cypher (Smashes & Gram gain freezing effect)
Final Smash: Ouroboros (two shield drones appear and orbit Strider, damaging enemies on contact, intercepting projectiles, and firing ring-shaped energy projectiles when Strider attacks)
Knuckles &...
Can cling to and climb walls
B a super punch like Donkey Kong's Giant Punch neutral special
↑B Flaming Uppercut (from Sonic Advance)
→B Spindash on ground, Glide-punch in mid-air
↓B Shovel Claw (burrows into ground for a moment & may spawn an item (abides Item Switch), or does that dive punch from Sonic Adventure in mid-air)
Final Smash: Hyper Knuckles (with new coloration; either rainbow sequence to match Hyper Sonic, or emerald green with golden chest stripe)
Amy Rose from Sonic the Hedgehog
two-form character; her hammer throw special discards her hammer, which then behaves like a weak melee item until Amy retrieves it, & continuously respawns if eliminated from stage. Final Smash teleports it back to her
moves quickly but attacks like a slow heavy weight while holding hammer, behaves like a straight-forward fast lightweight without
B Homerun Hammer (Falcon Punch) or Tomboy Slap (Mario's Cape) without
↑B Hammer Spin (Link's spinslash) or Spinjump (Samus' Screw Attack)
→B Hammer Throw (powerful projectile & activates alt mode) or Fangirl Glomp (moves like Fox Illusion, but halts at first foe and holds them)
↓B Hammer Vault (melee strike, buries or spikes enemy & launches Amy up) or Spindash
Final Smash: Arch Amy (magical-girl themed instead of super saiyan; moves like Super Sonic, basic attacks are smashes, special fires weak, mid-range aimable hearts)
Chun-Li
B Kikoken (standard medium strength projectile)
↑B Tenshokyaku (rising high-angle series of roundhouse kicks)
→B Spinning Bird Kick (upside-down split roundhouse that travels a medium distance horizontally without falling)
↓B Hienshu (very fast short vertical leap, with a forward somersault at the apex culminating in a steep dive kick, functionally a counter)
Final Smash: Kikosho (generates a massive rotating sphere of chi directly in front of her that traps & multi-hits enemies it contacts before exploding)
Zits/Pimple/Rash from Battletoads
Can use tongue as a tether for holds or recovery
B Drilla Killa (punch where hand turns into a drill, works like Marth's Shieldbreaker neutral special)
↑B Spring Stomp (like Kirby's up-special; feet turn into springs to launch, then into an anvil to land)
→B Hoverbike Charge (Falcon Kick)
↓B Double Axe Handle Strike (the Captain Kirk move with cartoonishly enlarged hands, buries/spikes opponent)
Final Smash: Pendulum Strike (grab onto a rappel line from above the stage; attacks semi-spike enemies, immune to hits during attack animation but will careen away)
Granted, some of these would probably be pretty broken as described (Chun-Li, Knuckles, & Shovel Knight for their recovery options, possibly also Alucard).
I think the asinine "port or sequel" argument will be immensely complicated by the increasingly slender differences between sequels. By which I mean, Melee was more different from 64 than Brawl was from Melee, and likewise Brawl was a larger jump from Melee than 4 was from Brawl. The tendency to retain as much old content as possible (particularly in terms of characters) basically requires that they reuse an increasing proportion of their old assets and physics. So I suspect at least one person out there is going to say, in all seriousness, that despite the 10 new characters, different Arcade mode, changed items, new stages, revised Special Smash settings, and so on and so forth, that Smash 5 is really just an enhanced port, and actually mean it, just because the game-feel is kinda Smash 4-ish.
My favorite musical instrument is the air-raid siren.
To add another potential finagle to the issue: there's certainly a chance they follow suit with Smash 4 and call this one "Super Smash Brothers for Nintendo Switch". Which even if they give Ganondorf a new moveset, change the way shields work, and change Rage to a button-activated super mode that you charge up by dealing and taking damage, will be taken as incontrovertible proof that it's a port and not a true sequel.
My favorite musical instrument is the air-raid siren.
I think the asinine "port or sequel" argument will be immensely complicated by the increasingly slender differences between sequels. By which I mean, Melee was more different from 64 than Brawl was from Melee, and likewise Brawl was a larger jump from Melee than 4 was from Brawl. The tendency to retain as much old content as possible (particularly in terms of characters) basically requires that they reuse an increasing proportion of their old assets and physics. So I suspect at least one person out there is going to say, in all seriousness, that despite the 10 new characters, different Arcade mode, changed items, new stages, revised Special Smash settings, and so on and so forth, that Smash 5 is really just an enhanced port, and actually mean it, just because the game-feel is kinda Smash 4-ish.
While I don't necessarily disagree with the general claim, that's quite an exaggeration. Brawl and SSB4 are very different games.
Nintendo today detailed its plans for E3 2018, and among the most interesting details is that the new Super Smash Bros. title for Switch will be playable on the show floor. During show hours on June 12-14, you can visit Nintendo's booth at the Los Angeles Convention Center to be among the first in the world to play the highly anticipated fighting game.
Those willing to brave surely long lines will also get to play "a variety" of other titles, though Nintendo did not announced any specific games. The company also said that some of the "most noteworthy" third-party games for Switch will be "featured across several Nintendo activities throughout the week," though it's unclear if these will be playable on the show floor.
Nintendo's E3 briefing will take place at 9 AM PT on Tuesday, June 12 in the form of a video presentation instead of a live show like Microsoft, Sony, Bethesda, Ubisoft, and EA do. Immediately after this show, Nintendo will kick off its annual Treehouse Live programming, which is three days of gameplay reveals, developer discussions, and more. The show will kick off with, you guessed it, Super Smash Bros. for Switch. This will all be streamed live.
As it's done in recent years, Nintendo's E3 showing will focus on games that are coming out soon. As you'd expect, Smash Bros. for Switch is getting a "special spotlight" in a headlining role for the show. Nintendo said it will wait for a later date to showcase titles coming after 2018.
I don't think we'll hear anything about the game till E3 then. But June 12th is gonna be a total blowout..first proper trailer during the video briefing most likely plus maybe a couple new character trailers, lots of footage during Treehouse Live and then the tournament to cap it all off.
Hey how do I edit that google form I need to enhance my poll
If anyone figures it out, let me know. I havent found the option either. But I am confident that I told it to give people the option... though not confident enough to avoid checking it once I'm home from work.
My favorite musical instrument is the air-raid siren.
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My favorite musical instrument is the air-raid siren.
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Nintendo allegedly says that Smash Switch will be playable on the show floor:
I'd say Dark Souls is more likely to be represented by things such as:
Trophies.
Assist Trophy: Solaire.
Soapstones (call NPC phantoms of various colors as stage hazards).
Humanity (heals you, random chance of an NPC invader).
Firelink Shrine stage, because Dark Souls is no one person, but the setting. Given the obsession with charming detail, I expect no less a seated Crestfallen Warrior, random appearances by Lautrec, Frampt, and the Giant Crow, plus item trading with Snuggly.
If there's still a feature equivalent to Mii Fighters, various Dark Souls gear to wear.
Solaire is too close to the numerous sword fighters Smash already has, plus he's the original SunBro; of course he'd be an assist trophy. The only other truly iconic character would be Artorias, and his move set is quite distinct from other sword fighters. While I don't think it likely to happen, I'd say Artorias would make a more unique contribution as a fighter.
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I'd love it, but I have to admit that there's an awful lot of conceptual overlap in his abilities with Ness and Lucas. Baseball enthusiast? Check.Yo-Yo as main weapon? Check. Psychic powers (from the second game)? Check. Even some of his other more memorable things are covered by others (like Villager's slingshot) or items (like the ray gun).
The few things that really stands out to me are the throwing stars that move in straight horizontal or vertical lines, and then split into two going perpendicular to the original trajectory if you press the button again while they're still in flight. Also that his final smash should be the magic snowman that freezes every foe on screen for a short bit (but it should not be enough time to whale on more than one). I guess his flying kick with cleats, and the magic anklet that extend jump distance would work well for aerial play?
Mike can walk across normal ground, it's just tiles he has to hop between for some reason. Dunno how you'd model that in smash though.
Hrm, maybe his Up-B recovery is summoning a series of tiles he can hop across. You hit it and then input a secondary direction in which the tiles spawn, and then you hop from tile to tile, damaging anyone in the way/in the area the tiles appear.
Explains a lot
If you're curious about the weapons (I had to look up photos to identify the one furthest right)
RE: soundtrack stuff, I'd love it if they included / had an optional download (for file size reasons) of all of the songs from previous games. Brawl especially had such a solid set of remixes and orchestrations, that going forward to Smash 4 and not having it all felt like a downgrade in some senses. I think it is great that they insist on making new music for each game, but if you've got such good material already it feels criminal to not use it.
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If Smash Switch is a port, I think I'll be okay with it.
That's part of the reason I'd be surprised if all the work for Smash 4 gets thrown out... it was damn solid and pretty much everybody loved it (well, aside from the MELEE OR DIE crowd).
But then, Sakurai gotta Sakurai.
I hope so too, since I didn't love SSB4.
Granted, some of these would probably be pretty broken as described (Chun-Li, Knuckles, & Shovel Knight for their recovery options, possibly also Alucard).
I don’t think that anyone would say 4 was a port of brawl, even if there weren’t the graphics update
That's because development of 4 didn't start until well after Brawl, while development of 5 started before 4 was even finished.
Where was that stated? I must have missed that.
Never officially, but there were job listings for a Smash Bros 6 before 3DS and Wii U came out.
While I don't necessarily disagree with the general claim, that's quite an exaggeration. Brawl and SSB4 are very different games.
I don't think people would have called 4 a port even if it came out the very same day
June 12th...
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If anyone figures it out, let me know. I havent found the option either. But I am confident that I told it to give people the option... though not confident enough to avoid checking it once I'm home from work.
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- Trophies.
- Assist Trophy: Solaire.
- Soapstones (call NPC phantoms of various colors as stage hazards).
- Humanity (heals you, random chance of an NPC invader).
- Firelink Shrine stage, because Dark Souls is no one person, but the setting. Given the obsession with charming detail, I expect no less a seated Crestfallen Warrior, random appearances by Lautrec, Frampt, and the Giant Crow, plus item trading with Snuggly.
- If there's still a feature equivalent to Mii Fighters, various Dark Souls gear to wear.
Solaire is too close to the numerous sword fighters Smash already has, plus he's the original SunBro; of course he'd be an assist trophy. The only other truly iconic character would be Artorias, and his move set is quite distinct from other sword fighters. While I don't think it likely to happen, I'd say Artorias would make a more unique contribution as a fighter.PSN: theIceBurner, IceBurnerEU, IceBurner-JP | X-Link Kai: TheIceBurner
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