Trump has been very vocal about not starting WWIII over the Iran deal and not picking a pointless and destructive fight with Putin. So, there's some hope, at least.
A GOP president will follow what a gop congress says, and a gop congress wants everything Trump doesn't and I'm not sold on him not being a warmonger. This is a man advocating banning muslims from our country. He's not a "well he wouldn't be so bad" type.
Not gonna lie, Trump using the Oval Office as a literal bully pulpit to bring rebellious congress critters to heel would be magical.
Also horrible.
Like a lumbering abomination that's basically a writhing, fetid mass of stiched-together corpses: Still objectively magical.
As an aside, it's called the bully pulpit because Teddy Roosevelt, not because presidents are bullies.
In some ways even if Trump loses the general, he'll have done irreparable damage simply based on how much he'll have mobilized and energized the cause of fascism, racism, and authoritarianism in this country. He's done some of that already; but primary candidates tend not to impact the political landscape, whereas losing general candidates probably have more lasting effects.
I agree with this, but... JFC, whatever passes as the GOP leadership these days has needed a wake-up call about what the people who are their base actually want and believe. If it takes Trump getting the GOP nomination to heighten their contradictions in the Marxian sense, then so be it.
It'd just be really great to live in a country where there's at least two mostly sane political parties capable of governing effectively, even if I only support one of them.
In some ways even if Trump loses the general, he'll have done irreparable damage simply based on how much he'll have mobilized and energized the cause of fascism, racism, and authoritarianism in this country. He's done some of that already; but primary candidates tend not to impact the political landscape, whereas losing general candidates probably have more lasting effects.
I agree with this, but... JFC, whatever passes as the GOP leadership these days has needed a wake-up call about what the people who are their base actually want and believe. If it takes Trump getting the GOP nomination to heighten their contradictions in the Marxian sense, then so be it.
It'd just be really great to live in a country where there's at least two mostly sane political parties capable of governing effectively, even if I only support one of them.
Trump’s campaign, like Buchanan’s, is powered by the resentment and anxiety of the white working class. Trump is this year’s celebrity mascot for the Buchanan boys. The Buchanan boys are economically and socially frustrated white men who wish to be economically supported by the federal government without enduring the stigma of welfare dependency. So they construct for themselves a story in which they have been victimized by elites and a political system based on interest-group politics that serves everyone except them. Trump is supported by so-called white nationalists, as Buchanan was before him, but the swastika set is merely an extreme example of the sort of thinking commonly found among those to whom Trump appeals.
They aren't doing much to stop him. And, hell, there's the question of whatever they even CAN, as Yglesias points out, Rubio/Jeb/Kasich/Christie combined only get 28.5% national polling average, which isn't enough to stop Trump. Not that surprising, candidates like the Fantastic Four, McCain and Romney are just a bunch of dissapointing losers that aren't winning the general anyways, so might as well vote Trump.
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In some ways even if Trump loses the general, he'll have done irreparable damage simply based on how much he'll have mobilized and energized the cause of fascism, racism, and authoritarianism in this country. He's done some of that already; but primary candidates tend not to impact the political landscape, whereas losing general candidates probably have more lasting effects.
And again, it's pretty clear that the RNC has lost all direction over huge swaths of the base. The 2012 postmortem conclusions were: less fear-mongering about brown people, less anti-women rhetoric, deliver substantive policy alternatives.
And every single candidate this year fails to meet even one of those very easy-to-meet goals.
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Not that surprising, candidates like the Fantastic Four, McCain and Romney are just a bunch of dissapointing losers that aren't winning the general anyways, so might as well vote Trump.
Kasich - Mr. Fantastic: Can stretch his minimal campaign resources to impressive lengths
Rubio - Human Torch: Young, brash, hot-headed . . . and flamed out quickly under the spotlight
Jeb - The Invisible Woman: Where is he? Is he even campaigning? Is it just performance art? I don't know!
Chris Christie - The Thing: [self explanatory]
Ben Carson - Dr. Doom: Bombastic braggart who makes ridiculous claims of superiority only to whine like a pissbaby whenever things don't go his way.
President Trump won't start WWIII, if only because there's no profit to be made for the Trump Empire in WWIII and it would soil his precious Trump brand.
President Cruz would start WWIII in a heartbeat because he imagines himself as pure-good crusading and annihilating the forces of pure evil using nukes.
So Trump would be the better of the two as president. Also starting WWIII is now the standard on which Republican candidates should be ranked.
In some ways even if Trump loses the general, he'll have done irreparable damage simply based on how much he'll have mobilized and energized the cause of fascism, racism, and authoritarianism in this country. He's done some of that already; but primary candidates tend not to impact the political landscape, whereas losing general candidates probably have more lasting effects.
I agree with this, but... JFC, whatever passes as the GOP leadership these days has needed a wake-up call about what the people who are their base actually want and believe. If it takes Trump getting the GOP nomination to heighten their contradictions in the Marxian sense, then so be it.
It'd just be really great to live in a country where there's at least two mostly sane political parties capable of governing effectively, even if I only support one of them.
No thanks
I will skip the facism every time.
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President Trump won't start WWIII, if only because there's no profit to be made for the Trump Empire in WWIII and it would soil his precious Trump brand.
President Cruz would start WWIII in a heartbeat because he imagines himself as pure-good crusading and annihilating the forces of pure evil using nukes.
So Trump would be the better of the two as president. Also starting WWIII is now the standard on which Republican candidates should be ranked.
President Trump will start WWIII as soon as some country calls him chicken and suggests that he does not have a big penis.
President Trump won't start WWIII, if only because there's no profit to be made for the Trump Empire in WWIII and it would soil his precious Trump brand.
President Cruz would start WWIII in a heartbeat because he imagines himself as pure-good crusading and annihilating the forces of pure evil using nukes.
So Trump would be the better of the two as president. Also starting WWIII is now the standard on which Republican candidates should be ranked.
President Trump will start WWIII as soon as some country calls him chicken and suggests that he does not have a big penis.
No see, it's brilliant. Everyone will have to worry about tiptoeing around issues to avoid upsetting the maniac with his finger on the button.
In other words, we too can have the joy of being North Korea.
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I forget a lot about that movie's beginning apparently.
Scrolling down this exit poll and it just seems Trump won almost every demographic. Some of these exit poll questions, too.. "Would you be satisfied if Cruz won the nomination?" Trump STILL eked out Cruz voters. "Who would best handle an international crisis?" Dear god, 30% answered Trump.
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Sad and pathetic - After NH I actually researched what would go into emigrating. I almost certainly wouldn't follow through but I took it seriously enough to research property costs, what qualifications you need, could I bring my dog etc
Sad and pathetic - After NH I actually researched what would go into emigrating. I almost certainly wouldn't follow through but I took it seriously enough to research property costs, what qualifications you need, could I bring my dog etc
It's funny, this actually kinda-sorta has become a legitimate proposition to me? By the time the election happens, I'll be married to a Filipino citizen, which kinda already puts a foot in the door, and it's not like there's any shortage of electronics companies in SEA.
She's not horribly politically aware, but she IS aware of Trump, and she was fucking LIVID that he won last night. If he becomes the nominee, I actually expect this conversation to happen.
They aren't doing much to stop him. And, hell, there's the question of whatever they even CAN, as Yglesias points out, Rubio/Jeb/Kasich/Christie combined only get 28.5% national polling average, which isn't enough to stop Trump. Not that surprising, candidates like the Fantastic Four, McCain and Romney are just a bunch of dissapointing losers that aren't winning the general anyways, so might as well vote Trump.
That's why it's got to be Cruz, I think?
Trump was openly hostile to the Republican Party until recently. He's on the record saying if he ever wanted to run for President, he'd do it as a Republican because their voters are so easily manipulated. His platform overlap with the party is well under 50%. He's riding a wave of 30% plurality wins and more than half the base is hostile to him. He's generally considered a November walkover.
There are all kinds of mechanisms in place to prevent just this kind of hijacking. I just can't believe that they personally hate Ted Cruz *so much* that they would let Trump have the nomination over him, even though I find it very easy to believe they hate Ted Cruz a lot.
Following a dismal showing in New Hampshire, Chris Christie has reportedly decided to suspend his campaign and stay in New Jersey.
The highway's jammed with broken heroes
On a last chance power drive
Everybody's out on the run tonight
But there's no place left to hide
H-Oh, Someday girl I don't know when
We're gonna get to that place
Where we really wanna go
And we'll walk in the sun
But till then tramps like us
Baby we were born to run
They aren't doing much to stop him. And, hell, there's the question of whatever they even CAN, as Yglesias points out, Rubio/Jeb/Kasich/Christie combined only get 28.5% national polling average, which isn't enough to stop Trump. Not that surprising, candidates like the Fantastic Four, McCain and Romney are just a bunch of dissapointing losers that aren't winning the general anyways, so might as well vote Trump.
That's why it's got to be Cruz, I think?
Trump was openly hostile to the Republican Party until recently. He's on the record saying if he ever wanted to run for President, he'd do it as a Republican because their voters are so easily manipulated. His platform overlap with the party is well under 50%. He's riding a wave of 30% plurality wins and more than half the base is hostile to him. He's generally considered a November walkover.
There are all kinds of mechanisms in place to prevent just this kind of hijacking. I just can't believe that they personally hate Ted Cruz *so much* that they would let Trump have the nomination over him, even though I find it very easy to believe they hate Ted Cruz a lot.
Trump was openly hostile to the Republican Party until recently. Cruz is still openly hostile to the Republican Party.
They aren't doing much to stop him. And, hell, there's the question of whatever they even CAN, as Yglesias points out, Rubio/Jeb/Kasich/Christie combined only get 28.5% national polling average, which isn't enough to stop Trump. Not that surprising, candidates like the Fantastic Four, McCain and Romney are just a bunch of dissapointing losers that aren't winning the general anyways, so might as well vote Trump.
That's why it's got to be Cruz, I think?
Trump was openly hostile to the Republican Party until recently. He's on the record saying if he ever wanted to run for President, he'd do it as a Republican because their voters are so easily manipulated. His platform overlap with the party is well under 50%. He's riding a wave of 30% plurality wins and more than half the base is hostile to him. He's generally considered a November walkover.
There are all kinds of mechanisms in place to prevent just this kind of hijacking. I just can't believe that they personally hate Ted Cruz *so much* that they would let Trump have the nomination over him, even though I find it very easy to believe they hate Ted Cruz a lot.
plenty of articles with quotes from gop sources that say they'd rather forfeit the party to trump for a year, get torched in the general and try again in 2020 against a very old democrat, vs the possibility of cruz maybe winning and having to give him the party for 4 years.
They aren't doing much to stop him. And, hell, there's the question of whatever they even CAN, as Yglesias points out, Rubio/Jeb/Kasich/Christie combined only get 28.5% national polling average, which isn't enough to stop Trump. Not that surprising, candidates like the Fantastic Four, McCain and Romney are just a bunch of dissapointing losers that aren't winning the general anyways, so might as well vote Trump.
That's why it's got to be Cruz, I think?
Trump was openly hostile to the Republican Party until recently. He's on the record saying if he ever wanted to run for President, he'd do it as a Republican because their voters are so easily manipulated. His platform overlap with the party is well under 50%. He's riding a wave of 30% plurality wins and more than half the base is hostile to him. He's generally considered a November walkover.
There are all kinds of mechanisms in place to prevent just this kind of hijacking. I just can't believe that they personally hate Ted Cruz *so much* that they would let Trump have the nomination over him, even though I find it very easy to believe they hate Ted Cruz a lot.
I think you underestimate how much every single Republican Senator (aside from Mike Lee) hates Cruz. And it's not just them, it's pretty much all the establishment. I 100% honestly think they'd prefer Trump.
Campaigns stop because you run out of money or you are hurting your future prospects. If John Ellis Bush loses this election I'm not sure what his political future would be and he has silly amounts of money.
Trump did not help cause the government shutdown that hurt the Republicans and then push for another game of chicken just a few months later. Cruz then put in a story in his book about the Republicans in the room getting really furious with him when he suggested that while failing to mention that this was soon after the previous government shutdown hurt them.
"In our first benchmark poll, we asked a series of questions to assess where I stood compared to Dewhurst. One of those questions would become famous internally in our campaign: Question 10. It asked voters if they would be more or less likely to support me if they knew that "Ted Cruz understands that politicians from both parties have let us down. Cruz is a proven conservative we can trust to provide new leadership in the Senate to reduce the size of government and defend the Constitution."
Among Republicans, those two simple sentences polled north of 80 percent. At the same time, they garnered a majority of Independents, and even 20 percent of Democrats. They became the centerpiece of our campaign."
Cruz's campaign strategies have always been about actively harming fellow Republicans and not just in the way where he makes some references to the establishment and calls himself an outsider candidate.
It is very easy to see why the establishment would loathe him much more than some newcomer who at least has not actively harmed them in the same way yet.
Even without the goverment shutdown, most people that have interacted with Cruz, whatever in college, or Dubya's campaign team, point-blank despise the guy for being a self-centered, empathy-lacking asshole.
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It would explain a lot. Those punctuation marks are really pixie dust, but Jeb's having trouble flying (through the polls) because Trump made him lose his happy thought.
It would explain a lot. Those punctuation marks are really pixie dust, but Jeb's having trouble flying (through the polls) because Trump made him lose his happy thought.
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As an aside, it's called the bully pulpit because Teddy Roosevelt, not because presidents are bullies.
I agree with this, but... JFC, whatever passes as the GOP leadership these days has needed a wake-up call about what the people who are their base actually want and believe. If it takes Trump getting the GOP nomination to heighten their contradictions in the Marxian sense, then so be it.
It'd just be really great to live in a country where there's at least two mostly sane political parties capable of governing effectively, even if I only support one of them.
Fuck that guy, he deserves it.
Uh huh. Look, the GOP has long been aware of what is their base. Deal is, besides a lot of sneering at the plebeians:
They aren't doing much to stop him. And, hell, there's the question of whatever they even CAN, as Yglesias points out, Rubio/Jeb/Kasich/Christie combined only get 28.5% national polling average, which isn't enough to stop Trump. Not that surprising, candidates like the Fantastic Four, McCain and Romney are just a bunch of dissapointing losers that aren't winning the general anyways, so might as well vote Trump.
And again, it's pretty clear that the RNC has lost all direction over huge swaths of the base. The 2012 postmortem conclusions were: less fear-mongering about brown people, less anti-women rhetoric, deliver substantive policy alternatives.
And every single candidate this year fails to meet even one of those very easy-to-meet goals.
Kasich - Mr. Fantastic: Can stretch his minimal campaign resources to impressive lengths
Rubio - Human Torch: Young, brash, hot-headed . . . and flamed out quickly under the spotlight
Jeb - The Invisible Woman: Where is he? Is he even campaigning? Is it just performance art? I don't know!
Chris Christie - The Thing: [self explanatory]
Ben Carson - Dr. Doom: Bombastic braggart who makes ridiculous claims of superiority only to whine like a pissbaby whenever things don't go his way.
President Cruz would start WWIII in a heartbeat because he imagines himself as pure-good crusading and annihilating the forces of pure evil using nukes.
So Trump would be the better of the two as president. Also starting WWIII is now the standard on which Republican candidates should be ranked.
No thanks
I will skip the facism every time.
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President Trump will start WWIII as soon as some country calls him chicken and suggests that he does not have a big penis.
No see, it's brilliant. Everyone will have to worry about tiptoeing around issues to avoid upsetting the maniac with his finger on the button.
In other words, we too can have the joy of being North Korea.
Scrolling down this exit poll and it just seems Trump won almost every demographic. Some of these exit poll questions, too.. "Would you be satisfied if Cruz won the nomination?" Trump STILL eked out Cruz voters. "Who would best handle an international crisis?" Dear god, 30% answered Trump.
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50 minutes? That is commitment.
That's not a sketch, that's an actual hour long movie they made.
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It's funny, this actually kinda-sorta has become a legitimate proposition to me? By the time the election happens, I'll be married to a Filipino citizen, which kinda already puts a foot in the door, and it's not like there's any shortage of electronics companies in SEA.
She's not horribly politically aware, but she IS aware of Trump, and she was fucking LIVID that he won last night. If he becomes the nominee, I actually expect this conversation to happen.
That's why it's got to be Cruz, I think?
Trump was openly hostile to the Republican Party until recently. He's on the record saying if he ever wanted to run for President, he'd do it as a Republican because their voters are so easily manipulated. His platform overlap with the party is well under 50%. He's riding a wave of 30% plurality wins and more than half the base is hostile to him. He's generally considered a November walkover.
There are all kinds of mechanisms in place to prevent just this kind of hijacking. I just can't believe that they personally hate Ted Cruz *so much* that they would let Trump have the nomination over him, even though I find it very easy to believe they hate Ted Cruz a lot.
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The highway's jammed with broken heroes
On a last chance power drive
Everybody's out on the run tonight
But there's no place left to hide
H-Oh, Someday girl I don't know when
We're gonna get to that place
Where we really wanna go
And we'll walk in the sun
But till then tramps like us
Baby we were born to run
Trump was openly hostile to the Republican Party until recently. Cruz is still openly hostile to the Republican Party.
plenty of articles with quotes from gop sources that say they'd rather forfeit the party to trump for a year, get torched in the general and try again in 2020 against a very old democrat, vs the possibility of cruz maybe winning and having to give him the party for 4 years.
they hate ted cruz so much
Wouldn't that mean he'd have won Iowa by a huge margin? Her superpower is winning after all.
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I think you underestimate how much every single Republican Senator (aside from Mike Lee) hates Cruz. And it's not just them, it's pretty much all the establishment. I 100% honestly think they'd prefer Trump.
That makes me sad
When you have to say it out loud, it's not true.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
It's being kept alive by machines.
And we all know what JEB! thinks of disconnecting the brain dead from life support .
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http://www.vox.com/2016/1/28/10846212/ted-cruz-republicans-hate
Cruz's campaign strategies have always been about actively harming fellow Republicans and not just in the way where he makes some references to the establishment and calls himself an outsider candidate.
It is very easy to see why the establishment would loathe him much more than some newcomer who at least has not actively harmed them in the same way yet.
I think Sanders losing by 0.3% is a pretty big win for him. He got 21 delegates to Clinton's 23.
Two months before the primary RCP had him down by 25%.
Perhaps Tinkerbell is his campaign manager.
It would explain a lot. Those punctuation marks are really pixie dust, but Jeb's having trouble flying (through the polls) because Trump made him lose his happy thought.
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