There's no reason for them to do so, but every fan wants that I think. It's confusing for the average movie-goer who doesn't know which characters can or cannot interact. It's hard enough to know the distinction between DC and Marvel, but then ALSO knowing MCU vs X-Men Universe plus the whole Spider-Man/Sony deal and then there's Agents of Shield and the Arrowverse and Gotham and the Netflix series and *vomit* I forgot where I was going with this but yeah
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You know, after watching Deadpool and feeling refreshed by it in comparison to the other super hero movies, I wish that they would end the Avengers Universe at Avengers 3, just make it a 2 or 3 part super movie and that is the end! Give Evans and Downey and the rest who are getting tired with it a solid end date.
I think Deadpool will help with the seeping malaise of the glut of super hero movies, but I think the time is drawing near where we just need to put an end to it and call it good for a decade or so.
You know, I just realized something. The way the flick tinkered with Deadpool's origin, it technically makes him a mutant.
Would that be a way for Fox to make sure the MCU can't use him? Or am I overthinking this and this was just a pretext to get Colossus and Negasonic in there?
Fox has the rights to the word "mutant". Which is why in Age of Ulton Quicksilver and Scarlet are called "superhumans" or something to that effect.
When Francis lifts that arms buyer by the neck and the guy mumbles "mutant", my first thought was "ok, now Fox is just rubbing it in..."
You know, I just realized something. The way the flick tinkered with Deadpool's origin, it technically makes him a mutant.
Would that be a way for Fox to make sure the MCU can't use him? Or am I overthinking this and this was just a pretext to get Colossus and Negasonic in there?
Fox has the rights to the word "mutant". Which is why in Age of Ulton Quicksilver and Scarlet are called "superhumans" or something to that effect.
When Francis lifts that arms buyer by the neck and the guy mumbles "mutant", my first thought was "ok, now Fox is just rubbing it in..."
In the comic they actually went to far as to retcon a secret baby switch for those two so they're no longer officially mutants.
There's also a page somewhere with Squirrel Girl where her mother tells her she is not a mutant and is something else that is legally distinct from mutants...
You know, I just realized something. The way the flick tinkered with Deadpool's origin, it technically makes him a mutant.
Would that be a way for Fox to make sure the MCU can't use him? Or am I overthinking this and this was just a pretext to get Colossus and Negasonic in there?
Fox has the rights to the word "mutant". Which is why in Age of Ulton Quicksilver and Scarlet are called "superhumans" or something to that effect.
When Francis lifts that arms buyer by the neck and the guy mumbles "mutant", my first thought was "ok, now Fox is just rubbing it in..."
In the comic they actually went to far as to retcon a secret baby switch for those two so they're no longer officially mutants.
There's also a page somewhere with Squirrel Girl where her mother tells her she is not a mutant and is something else that is legally distinct from mutants...
The twins having questionable parentage isn't a change, it's practically part of their powerset. The whole change of them being mutants was itself a retcon, as was them being Magneto's kids. The change probably has more to do with the fact that he's essentially the only "mutant" at the time to be exposed to Terrigen gas, because changing that had absolutely no effect on who held the rights to the characters, but the change did have an impact on Marvel's plans for mutants in the comics.
And Squirrel Girl is a comic that is mostly about taking pointed jabs at the comics themselves. So, yeah, why would they not make jokes about people accusing Marvel of changing characters to fit some imagined legal dispute.
You know, after watching Deadpool and feeling refreshed by it in comparison to the other super hero movies, I wish that they would end the Avengers Universe at Avengers 3, just make it a 2 or 3 part super movie and that is the end! Give Evans and Downey and the rest who are getting tired with it a solid end date.
I think Deadpool will help with the seeping malaise of the glut of super hero movies, but I think the time is drawing near where we just need to put an end to it and call it good for a decade or so.
The people who feel anything approaching burnout are an exceptionally tiny fraction of the audience, so putting the brakes on the whole endeavor would be kind of silly. The ones who don't want to watch all the movies can just, you know, not watch all the movies.
In other news, Deadpool is just as enjoyable the second time. Also, there were some epic lines trailing out my theater for the 2:00 showing.
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Between the "success" of 50 Shades and now Deadpool, I can't wait to see what the studios are going to fall over themselves to make now that R rated Valentine's Movie is a thing.
Honestly, Deadpool came at the perfect time -- we're just about at Peak Superhero, and someone had to do a parody. I'm just happy it was Deadpool and not the Wayanses.
I've always been one who doesn't want the X-men and MCU universes connecting. Because it wouldn't make sense. In the comics, people hate mutants but have no problem with mutates. We can have alcoholic billionaires flying around in one-man-personal-army-in-a-can and a guy that climbs walls and swings on webs, but god forbid you are born with powers, because suddenly you are public enemies number one. With X-men and MCU separate, it makes sense. Now normal people can be afraid of superpowered people and not be hypocritical when they go to a Captain America parade. Honestly, I would have loved the Secret Wars event had done the same to the X-men and Marvel Universes.
I also wouldn't want Deadpool in any serious X-movie, because it would break it. But I would enjoy a kind of subset of the X-universe devoted to characters like Deadpool and Squirrel Girl that maintains its own parody continuity.
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If Marvel universes were to keep colliding, we should get the G1 era Transformers in there too. Hell, Spidey showed up in an early TFs issue, circa 1984...
...really I just want someone other than that imbecile Bay to get a shot at doing Transformers right.
Anyway, yes, can confirm Deadpool is just as good the seond time around. Took myself out to a midnight showing last night. Much more chucklesome audience than the Wednesday matinee was. Knowing the jokes that were coming up didn't diminish them one bit. So many brilliant moments, so rewatchable. Really, really glad it's doing so well.
Honestly, Deadpool came at the perfect time -- we're just about at Peak Superhero, and someone had to do a parody. I'm just happy it was Deadpool and not the Wayanses.
Joking aside, Fox almost definitely has Squirrel Girl.
She first showed up in the "Marvel Super-Heroes" anthology in an Iron Man story, and then was a major character in Great Lakes Avengers. She has humorously been retconned away from being a mutant, so I imagine Marvel has the film rights. She's never really been associated with the X-Men, even when the GLA temporarily became the GLX.
I thought that was probably the biggest surprise of the movie, how fucking awesome Colossus was. They just nailed his combination of power, resolve, and the sort of uncomfortable outdated morality.
He was charming and awesome.
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I kind of regard Mystery Men as a superhero parody movie. I know it isn't in the strictest sense, but it's close enough. And it's brilliant.
Weird to think it cost more to make than Deadpool did...
I'd say it's as much a parody of the Superhero movie as Deadpool in that it took generally accepted tropes and played with them in an unexpected and entertaining way.
Also like Deadpool (and unlike Superhero Movie), Mystery Men was enjoyable to watch.
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The unicorn was apparently supposed to be a MyLittlePony toy or just a toy to represent it. Hasbro would probably have a fit about the context it was present in. Also the credits. Though Cartoon Network didn't mind having their Adventure Time IP in a movie with dick jokes and gore so eh.
I thought that was probably the biggest surprise of the movie, how fucking awesome Colossus was. They just nailed his combination of power, resolve, and the sort of uncomfortable outdated morality.
You know, I just realized something. The way the flick tinkered with Deadpool's origin, it technically makes him a mutant.
Would that be a way for Fox to make sure the MCU can't use him? Or am I overthinking this and this was just a pretext to get Colossus and Negasonic in there?
Fox has the rights to the word "mutant". Which is why in Age of Ulton Quicksilver and Scarlet are called "superhumans" or something to that effect.
When Francis lifts that arms buyer by the neck and the guy mumbles "mutant", my first thought was "ok, now Fox is just rubbing it in..."
In the comic they actually went to far as to retcon a secret baby switch for those two so they're no longer officially mutants.
There's also a page somewhere with Squirrel Girl where her mother tells her she is not a mutant and is something else that is legally distinct from mutants...
The twins having questionable parentage isn't a change, it's practically part of their powerset. The whole change of them being mutants was itself a retcon, as was them being Magneto's kids. The change probably has more to do with the fact that he's essentially the only "mutant" at the time to be exposed to Terrigen gas, because changing that had absolutely no effect on who held the rights to the characters, but the change did have an impact on Marvel's plans for mutants in the comics.
And Squirrel Girl is a comic that is mostly about taking pointed jabs at the comics themselves. So, yeah, why would they not make jokes about people accusing Marvel of changing characters to fit some imagined legal dispute.
No, Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were mutants from the beginning, their first appearances were in Uncanny X-Men as members of the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants (which is probably the main reason Fox had rights to them). Making Magneto their father was a retcon though (originally they were hinting at the Golden Age superhero the Whizzer and his wife Miss America being their parents). During the early days all the characters were crossing over the whole time though, because the settings was a lot smaller than these days.
Sitting in the credits, I was thinking to myself "Man, the best thing would be if they aped the Ferris Bueller post-credits," and then it fucking happened and I lost my shit.
Was surprised they actually aimed for an R rating with Deadpool. Not that I'm complaining though.
Wade always seemed PG-13 enough to me once you get past all the limbs flying and him frequently getting decapitated.
I hear Debbie Does Dallas is pretty PG-13 if you take out all the fucking.
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Sitting in the credits, I was thinking to myself "Man, the best thing would be if they aped the Ferris Bueller post-credits," and then it fucking happened and I lost my shit.
I actually didn't fully get it until the chkahchkaaaaa at the end.
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Was surprised they actually aimed for an R rating with Deadpool. Not that I'm complaining though.
Wade always seemed PG-13 enough to me once you get past all the limbs flying and him frequently getting decapitated.
I hear Debbie Does Dallas is pretty PG-13 if you take out all the fucking.
Fucking is kind of the whole thing there though. You couldn't make that movie on a PG-13 rating, you could probably make a pretty good Deadpool film with one though.
Deadpool can be pretty mainstream/not really all that graphic at times. But I'm glad they went R, with a character this insane and absurd, its nice to have room to go batshit.
Its kind of like The Punisher. Someone could probably figure out a decent PG-13 take but creatively why bother if you have a choice? Its an interesting risk and I'm surprised and impressed Fox took it.
It's going to be interesting to see how this affects Fox's long-term planning. Deadpool 2 is a certainty, and that X-Force movie will definitely be fast tracked now.
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One thing I'm hoping this will do is hopefully Marvel (and I guess DC) not to try to wall off all their more mature properties away from the more mainstream fare.
They're kind of already doing that with Netflix and while those are pretty awesome, always makes me kind of sad that Matt won't be getting another chance on the big screen or that they might have a tough time getting the Kingpin to appear in a Spider-Man cameo becuase they don't want to draw a connection between a kid friendly property and one where a guy impales his face through a spike.
Was surprised they actually aimed for an R rating with Deadpool. Not that I'm complaining though.
Wade always seemed PG-13 enough to me once you get past all the limbs flying and him frequently getting decapitated.
I hear Debbie Does Dallas is pretty PG-13 if you take out all the fucking.
That movie is almost 40 years old. How is it still the go-to porn title?
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I just want Deadpool 2 to be hands off by Fox. If they ask for a 100 million budget, give them 95 and let that be that. Don't try and then demand they shoehorn Dakota Johnson into it, or like, Rebel Wilson, or Aziz Ansari or Miles Teller and make them Deadpool Corps.
Deadpool 2 casting let's keep it spoilers just in case
You know who would actually be a decent Cable, I think? Brandon Routh. And then that could be twice the lol humor at having two actors of previous poor superhero movies soar like a Phoenix into more cash monies.
I just want Deadpool 2 to be hands off by Fox. If they ask for a 100 million budget, give them 95 and let that be that. Don't try and then demand they shoehorn Dakota Johnson into it, or like, Rebel Wilson, or Aziz Ansari or Miles Teller and make them Deadpool Corps.
Deadpool 2 casting let's keep it spoilers just in case
You know who would actually be a decent Cable, I think? Brandon Routh. And then that could be twice the lol humor at having two actors of previous poor superhero movies soar like a Phoenix into more cash monies.
God, I don't think I've seen Routh in anything since Zack and Miri Make a Porno. Although he was excellent in that, even if he was just being the sweet straight-man (most inappropriate term ever, in context) to scene-stealing Justin Long.
But yeah, I love the idea of him being in it at all, regardless of role, just because of what you said.
One thing I'm hoping this will do is hopefully Marvel (and I guess DC) not to try to wall off all their more mature properties away from the more mainstream fare.
They're kind of already doing that with Netflix and while those are pretty awesome, always makes me kind of sad that Matt won't be getting another chance on the big screen or that they might have a tough time getting the Kingpin to appear in a Spider-Man cameo becuase they don't want to draw a connection between a kid friendly property and one where a guy impales his face through a spike.
My impression is that a lot of Marvel's segregating of their properties is due to inter-departmental politics as well.
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I think Deadpool will help with the seeping malaise of the glut of super hero movies, but I think the time is drawing near where we just need to put an end to it and call it good for a decade or so.
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Fox has the rights to the word "mutant". Which is why in Age of Ulton Quicksilver and Scarlet are called "superhumans" or something to that effect.
Joking aside, Fox almost definitely has Squirrel Girl.
In the comic they actually went to far as to retcon a secret baby switch for those two so they're no longer officially mutants.
There's also a page somewhere with Squirrel Girl where her mother tells her she is not a mutant and is something else that is legally distinct from mutants...
The twins having questionable parentage isn't a change, it's practically part of their powerset. The whole change of them being mutants was itself a retcon, as was them being Magneto's kids. The change probably has more to do with the fact that he's essentially the only "mutant" at the time to be exposed to Terrigen gas, because changing that had absolutely no effect on who held the rights to the characters, but the change did have an impact on Marvel's plans for mutants in the comics.
And Squirrel Girl is a comic that is mostly about taking pointed jabs at the comics themselves. So, yeah, why would they not make jokes about people accusing Marvel of changing characters to fit some imagined legal dispute.
The people who feel anything approaching burnout are an exceptionally tiny fraction of the audience, so putting the brakes on the whole endeavor would be kind of silly. The ones who don't want to watch all the movies can just, you know, not watch all the movies.
In other news, Deadpool is just as enjoyable the second time. Also, there were some epic lines trailing out my theater for the 2:00 showing.
I also wouldn't want Deadpool in any serious X-movie, because it would break it. But I would enjoy a kind of subset of the X-universe devoted to characters like Deadpool and Squirrel Girl that maintains its own parody continuity.
...really I just want someone other than that imbecile Bay to get a shot at doing Transformers right.
Anyway, yes, can confirm Deadpool is just as good the seond time around. Took myself out to a midnight showing last night. Much more chucklesome audience than the Wednesday matinee was. Knowing the jokes that were coming up didn't diminish them one bit. So many brilliant moments, so rewatchable. Really, really glad it's doing so well.
I think that's got to be the best way to handle it. Gives them a bit more freedom to play with it, as well.
The comics don't all exist in just the one reality; why should the movies?
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There's actually been a superhero spoof movie.
Weird to think it cost more to make than Deadpool did...
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She first showed up in the "Marvel Super-Heroes" anthology in an Iron Man story, and then was a major character in Great Lakes Avengers. She has humorously been retconned away from being a mutant, so I imagine Marvel has the film rights. She's never really been associated with the X-Men, even when the GLA temporarily became the GLX.
I thought that was probably the biggest surprise of the movie, how fucking awesome Colossus was. They just nailed his combination of power, resolve, and the sort of uncomfortable outdated morality.
He was charming and awesome.
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Also like Deadpool (and unlike Superhero Movie), Mystery Men was enjoyable to watch.
How was it uncomfortable?
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Wade always seemed PG-13 enough to me once you get past all the limbs flying and him frequently getting decapitated.
No, Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were mutants from the beginning, their first appearances were in Uncanny X-Men as members of the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants (which is probably the main reason Fox had rights to them). Making Magneto their father was a retcon though (originally they were hinting at the Golden Age superhero the Whizzer and his wife Miss America being their parents). During the early days all the characters were crossing over the whole time though, because the settings was a lot smaller than these days.
11/10 Chimichangas.
Also, I'll never be able to prove it, but
Only because you knew Deadpool's reaction to it as soon as he opened his mouth. Was a good speech, but Deapdool put it over the top.
I hear Debbie Does Dallas is pretty PG-13 if you take out all the fucking.
That's not... I mean sure that synchs up.
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You'd probably have to take out all the cannibalism scenes too.
Deadpool can be pretty mainstream/not really all that graphic at times. But I'm glad they went R, with a character this insane and absurd, its nice to have room to go batshit.
Its kind of like The Punisher. Someone could probably figure out a decent PG-13 take but creatively why bother if you have a choice? Its an interesting risk and I'm surprised and impressed Fox took it.
They're kind of already doing that with Netflix and while those are pretty awesome, always makes me kind of sad that Matt won't be getting another chance on the big screen or that they might have a tough time getting the Kingpin to appear in a Spider-Man cameo becuase they don't want to draw a connection between a kid friendly property and one where a guy impales his face through a spike.
That movie is almost 40 years old. How is it still the go-to porn title?
Deadpool 2 casting let's keep it spoilers just in case
Its classy yet evokes exactly what you are going for.
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But yeah, I love the idea of him being in it at all, regardless of role, just because of what you said.
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My impression is that a lot of Marvel's segregating of their properties is due to inter-departmental politics as well.