Honestly, I'd be more surprised by an MMA fighter who wasn't a total goose.
There are plenty of standup people in MMA
the ratio is not good, relatively, but there are definitely pretty good people
There are a few things that seem to play together to make the ratio not so great.
The kind of rough upbringing that some had that produces someone that can take to fighting so well leaves personal issues that can be hard to escape. Mike Tyson was dominant in boxing at his peak but also had been in jail multiple times before he was in high school and it showed in his actions and behavior for a long time.
People who make a living fighting tend to live more on the fringes of society. They often just don't fit in with mainstream society and end up in the company that espouses conspiracy theories, flat earth, etc.
And very few fighters have the right kind of charisma to be a face for their professional personality. It's far easier to be a heel and while most don't carry it outside of press conferences I imagine some have ended up faking it until they made it real.
Still, this mostly results in espousing fringe beliefs more than being criminals. It's only a few I hear about doing the kinds of things Jon Jones, BJ Penn, or Conor McGregor do.
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Fantastic knockout but why would you catch someone's leg and then hold it there for 17 seconds with enough leverage that they can literally do a spinning back kick off of your hand.
Fantastic knockout but why would you catch someone's leg and then hold it there for 17 seconds with enough leverage that they can literally do a spinning back kick off of your hand.
A lot of things look done half-right in that exchange.
The arm positioning on the catch was awkward but taking a little longer to toss it so you're on the outside and further from your opponent's centerline is pretty normal. But you also ideally use some of that time to make more space and have the hips back a bit and before going in for your counter. You also are supposed to make sure the leg is moving to the side and down before closing in though I'm not sure that bit would have helped in this case as that's more something to protect from a roundhouse or punch from the other side.
Fantastic knockout but why would you catch someone's leg and then hold it there for 17 seconds with enough leverage that they can literally do a spinning back kick off of your hand.
he actually held it for less than a second
like i know the internet exists solely to shit on people but i feel like we can probably cut some slack for a guy who got surprised by a crazy unexpected kick in the final round of a fight
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I haven't heard a kick impact like that since peak Pride Cro Cop's left leg launching someone's head into low Earth orbit.
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Maybe whatever stopped his mother from wanting to fight will change in the future, but if not I'm 100% that's the last we'll see of Khabib in the Octogon.
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I never blame any fighter for retiring at any point in their careers, especially early on. Why would you subject yourself to that kind of risk when you can just open up a school and make good, consistent money that way for the rest of your life?
I never blame any fighter for retiring at any point in their careers, especially early on. Why would you subject yourself to that kind of risk when you can just open up a school and make good, consistent money that way for the rest of your life?
100% agree, but I think the sort of person that becomes a top flight fighter has a different sort of drive to most of us. That's why it's so rare that you see stars retire at the top of their game. In fact, most fighters will carry on well past their best. Thus taking the long term damage that you'd think would be a no brainer (pun unintended) to avoid...
For Khabib, his family is clearly everything to him. Which is why he's respecting his mother's wishes and not carrying on competing.
Hopefully we can see him in some submission matches or something in the future.
I never blame any fighter for retiring at any point in their careers, especially early on. Why would you subject yourself to that kind of risk when you can just open up a school and make good, consistent money that way for the rest of your life?
100% agree, but I think the sort of person that becomes a top flight fighter has a different sort of drive to most of us. That's why it's so rare that you see stars retire at the top of their game. In fact, most fighters will carry on well past their best. Thus taking the long term damage that you'd think would be a no brainer (pun unintended) to avoid...
For Khabib, his family is clearly everything to him. Which is why he's respecting his mother's wishes and not carrying on competing.
Hopefully we can see him in some submission matches or something in the future.
I mean it's also clearly hard for him to be fighting without his dad as well. He made it clear he wasn't really OK with it either. His mom's request was just the confirmation he really need on top of that.
His main coach and his father. The man who has been there with him for everything from the start for his entire amazing career.
Like yea... it would be really hard to keep fighting without him in his corner.
michael chandler as underdog seems kinda silly
we'll see if theres anything left of old conor in there though even if he wins i doubt khabib is coming back out despite what dfw says
i think charles olivera makes sense for michael chandler next and then have poirier fight gaethje for the new title
conor can go fight the paul brothers or something
Conor still made an estimated 20mil of that loss and secured a rubber match in the future.
He still won in the end.
He drew a lot of eyeballs to the event so he did his job from the perspective of the sport as a whole. That's not a small thing from a meta perspective.
Conor still made an estimated 20mil of that loss and secured a rubber match in the future.
He still won in the end.
He drew a lot of eyeballs to the event so he did his job from the perspective of the sport as a whole. That's not a small thing from a meta perspective.
Dana said at the presser that this was the 2nd or 3rd best-selling PPV in the history of the sport.
tai tuivasa is awesome though
what a fun dude
knocking greg hardy the fuck out was just icing on the cake
I'm normally not a huge fan of heavyweight fights but that fight had one of the fastest reversals in fortune I've ever seen. I did not register what happened until the replay.
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There are plenty of standup people in MMA
the ratio is not good, relatively, but there are definitely pretty good people
There are a few things that seem to play together to make the ratio not so great.
The kind of rough upbringing that some had that produces someone that can take to fighting so well leaves personal issues that can be hard to escape. Mike Tyson was dominant in boxing at his peak but also had been in jail multiple times before he was in high school and it showed in his actions and behavior for a long time.
People who make a living fighting tend to live more on the fringes of society. They often just don't fit in with mainstream society and end up in the company that espouses conspiracy theories, flat earth, etc.
And very few fighters have the right kind of charisma to be a face for their professional personality. It's far easier to be a heel and while most don't carry it outside of press conferences I imagine some have ended up faking it until they made it real.
Still, this mostly results in espousing fringe beliefs more than being criminals. It's only a few I hear about doing the kinds of things Jon Jones, BJ Penn, or Conor McGregor do.
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A lot of things look done half-right in that exchange.
The arm positioning on the catch was awkward but taking a little longer to toss it so you're on the outside and further from your opponent's centerline is pretty normal. But you also ideally use some of that time to make more space and have the hips back a bit and before going in for your counter. You also are supposed to make sure the leg is moving to the side and down before closing in though I'm not sure that bit would have helped in this case as that's more something to protect from a roundhouse or punch from the other side.
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he actually held it for less than a second
like i know the internet exists solely to shit on people but i feel like we can probably cut some slack for a guy who got surprised by a crazy unexpected kick in the final round of a fight
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gsp is sitting at home relieved he didn't get called out there
Maybe whatever stopped his mother from wanting to fight will change in the future, but if not I'm 100% that's the last we'll see of Khabib in the Octogon.
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100% agree, but I think the sort of person that becomes a top flight fighter has a different sort of drive to most of us. That's why it's so rare that you see stars retire at the top of their game. In fact, most fighters will carry on well past their best. Thus taking the long term damage that you'd think would be a no brainer (pun unintended) to avoid...
For Khabib, his family is clearly everything to him. Which is why he's respecting his mother's wishes and not carrying on competing.
Hopefully we can see him in some submission matches or something in the future.
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I mean it's also clearly hard for him to be fighting without his dad as well. He made it clear he wasn't really OK with it either. His mom's request was just the confirmation he really need on top of that.
His main coach and his father. The man who has been there with him for everything from the start for his entire amazing career.
Like yea... it would be really hard to keep fighting without him in his corner.
we'll see if theres anything left of old conor in there though even if he wins i doubt khabib is coming back out despite what dfw says
hoolllly shiiiiii
khabib staying retired now
conor is over, go home
He still won in the end.
conor can go fight the paul brothers or something
He drew a lot of eyeballs to the event so he did his job from the perspective of the sport as a whole. That's not a small thing from a meta perspective.
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O'Malley vs Moutinho made both of our heads hurt. It did lead to one of the funniest things I've heard in a long time though:
Her: His mom can't even watch the fight anymore.
Me: He's now got a face only a mother could love.
Her: Well it's going to be a lot harder now!
McGregor vs. Poirier: Ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow . . .
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what a fun dude
knocking greg hardy the fuck out was just icing on the cake
I'm normally not a huge fan of heavyweight fights but that fight had one of the fastest reversals in fortune I've ever seen. I did not register what happened until the replay.
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Dustin seems like a good dude.
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Addendum: The ground may have ended the fight, but the last hit of the night was from Jolie Poirier
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