We were talking about the wave of immigration in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, and we were talking about Eastern European Jews fleeing persecution and how they weren't very well treated in America when they got here, and he was like WELL YEAH THEY'RE ALL SHADY AS HELL
and the fuckin room goes DEAD and everyone turns to look at him and he's like NO NOT THE JEWS, EASTERN EUROPEANS, YOU CAN'T TRUST EM
and I'm sitting there like DAWG SHUT UP
Y'ALL
THIS SAME DUDE JUST
OPENLY
ADVOCATED
FOR EUGENICS.
Like, we're talking about the 20's still and my teacher was talking about the spread of eugenics and rightly said it was a pseudo-science, and this dude got all huffy and was like WELL WHY IS IT A PSEUDO-SCIENCE, IF YOU STOP PEOPLE FROM SPREADING BAD GENES and my teacher was like NAH STOP, HUSH YOUR MOUTH IMMEDIATELY
i am stymied.
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L Ron HowardThe duckMinnesotaRegistered Userregular
Fucking Nazis. Did you punch him?
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JedocIn the scupperswith the staggers and jagsRegistered Userregular
Listen, man. I love untermenschen. Some of my best friends are untermenschen. I'm just saying...maybe Nazis, yeah? Cool?
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Metzger MeisterIt Gets Worsebefore it gets any better.Registered Userregular
We were talking about the wave of immigration in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, and we were talking about Eastern European Jews fleeing persecution and how they weren't very well treated in America when they got here, and he was like WELL YEAH THEY'RE ALL SHADY AS HELL
and the fuckin room goes DEAD and everyone turns to look at him and he's like NO NOT THE JEWS, EASTERN EUROPEANS, YOU CAN'T TRUST EM
and I'm sitting there like DAWG SHUT UP
Y'ALL
THIS SAME DUDE JUST
OPENLY
ADVOCATED
FOR EUGENICS.
Like, we're talking about the 20's still and my teacher was talking about the spread of eugenics and rightly said it was a pseudo-science, and this dude got all huffy and was like WELL WHY IS IT A PSEUDO-SCIENCE, IF YOU STOP PEOPLE FROM SPREADING BAD GENES and my teacher was like NAH STOP, HUSH YOUR MOUTH IMMEDIATELY
i am stymied.
My public speaking class had the two most amazing fucking racist guys Ive ever met. One insisted that Native Americans actually had to many rights because according to him he had witnessed a situation where a native had been murdered and the FBI were "scared to enter the reservation because they would be killed". I dont remember the context that caused the other one to insist that it was actually moral that we took over this continent and genocided a people.
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Lost Salientblink twiceif you'd like me to mercy kill youRegistered Userregular
edited March 2017
Rewind to the bit where people are live realtime tweeting 1917
That's THE BEST THING
Lost Salient on
"Sandra has a good solid anti-murderer vibe. My skin felt very secure and sufficiently attached to my body when I met her. Also my organs." HAIL SATAN
Ah, edgy bigots in history classrooms, how I don't particularly miss you...
When I started my MA, one of the standard icebreakers was talking about peoples' undergraduate theses. As soon as I mentioned mine (shifting popular attitudes towards mental illness in the early 20th century) a few others in the cohort instantly perked up and assumed that meant I was obviously going to agree with them about their love of eugenics, volunteering a list of demographics they thought needed sterilization.
There's a really good documentary released yesterday on Netflix called "Five Came Back" that covers five famous Hollywood directors who were enlisted during WWII and put in charge of making documentaries at the start of US involvement in the war.
It was produced by Steven Spielberg and includes interviews with Guillermo Del Toro, Spielberg, Francis Ford Coppola, Lawrence Kasdan, Paul Greengrass, and archived interviews from the five directors. You'd think a film about directors in war made by a celebrated director of war movies would be a little masturbatory, but it's fairly even coverage. Even showing the absurdity of one of the directors landing in Africa and complaining that he'd missed the entire conflict in that theatre.
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Metzger MeisterIt Gets Worsebefore it gets any better.Registered Userregular
alright yeah this dude in my history class is a nazi. we just started covering ww2 and dude has what, to my mind, seems to be an unusually high esteem for the german military.
alright yeah this dude in my history class is a nazi. we just started covering ww2 and dude has what, to my mind, seems to be an unusually high esteem for the german military.
Freaking Wehraboos
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Metzger MeisterIt Gets Worsebefore it gets any better.Registered Userregular
alright yeah this dude in my history class is a nazi. we just started covering ww2 and dude has what, to my mind, seems to be an unusually high esteem for the german military.
Freaking Wehraboos
coupled with his other opinions and how excited he seemed about starting this unit, i think this goes beyond simple historical nerdery.
edit: dude also doesn't understand the concept of a rhetorical question. THE PROFESSOR ISN'T ALWAYS LOOKING FOR YOUR INPUT, BILLY, YOU FUCK.
I once took a political science class on genocide and there was this Turkish exchange student who smugly denied that the Armenian Genocide was a thing that happened
Eventually no one ever referenced it again just not to trigger the guy anymore
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Shortytouching the meatIntergalactic Cool CourtRegistered Userregular
I once took a political science class on genocide and there was this Turkish exchange student who smugly denied that the Armenian Genocide was a thing that happened
Eventually no one ever referenced it again just not to trigger the guy anymore
that this is still a controversial issue is absolutely unconscionable
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Donovan PuppyfuckerA dagger in the dark isworth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered Userregular
alright yeah this dude in my history class is a nazi. we just started covering ww2 and dude has what, to my mind, seems to be an unusually high esteem for the german military.
Freaking Wehraboos
coupled with his other opinions and how excited he seemed about starting this unit, i think this goes beyond simple historical nerdery.
edit: dude also doesn't understand the concept of a rhetorical question. THE PROFESSOR ISN'T ALWAYS LOOKING FOR YOUR INPUT, BILLY, YOU FUCK.
Hint: tell him to shut his stupid fucking pie hole.
I once took a political science class on genocide and there was this Turkish exchange student who smugly denied that the Armenian Genocide was a thing that happened
Eventually no one ever referenced it again just not to trigger the guy anymore
that this is still a controversial issue is absolutely unconscionable
Most atrocities tend to get denied by the perpetrators, it does make you look pretty bad
I mean shit, my town has a big statue of a dude who put a bounty on the scalps of First Nations people and there are still arguments about whether or not that is a bad thing to do
Interesting atrocity-related thing I learned recently: under Mao and for a long time afterwards, Chinese history books barely made any reference to atrocities committed by the Japanese army in China and they didn't feature at all on the political agenda until the late 80/early 90s
There are multiple reasons for this, for one thing Japan was seen as very unthreatening after WW2 and the Communist government wished to avoid the narrative of a heroic defense of the country by the Kuomintang
As some people surely know, Japanese responsibility was also mostly swept under the rug by the US in the aftermath of the war
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PiptheFairFrequently not in boats.Registered Userregular
I once took a political science class on genocide and there was this Turkish exchange student who smugly denied that the Armenian Genocide was a thing that happened
Eventually no one ever referenced it again just not to trigger the guy anymore
that this is still a controversial issue is absolutely unconscionable
THEY JUST WENT ON VACATION STOP ASKING
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Shortytouching the meatIntergalactic Cool CourtRegistered Userregular
I once took a political science class on genocide and there was this Turkish exchange student who smugly denied that the Armenian Genocide was a thing that happened
Eventually no one ever referenced it again just not to trigger the guy anymore
that this is still a controversial issue is absolutely unconscionable
Most atrocities tend to get denied by the perpetrators, it does make you look pretty bad
I mean shit, my town has a big statue of a dude who put a bounty on the scalps of First Nations people and there are still arguments about whether or not that is a bad thing to do
yeah, but the government of Germany isn't like "okay the holocaust happened, sure, but we didn't mean to kill all those Jews"
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PiptheFairFrequently not in boats.Registered Userregular
I once took a political science class on genocide and there was this Turkish exchange student who smugly denied that the Armenian Genocide was a thing that happened
Eventually no one ever referenced it again just not to trigger the guy anymore
that this is still a controversial issue is absolutely unconscionable
Most atrocities tend to get denied by the perpetrators, it does make you look pretty bad
I mean shit, my town has a big statue of a dude who put a bounty on the scalps of First Nations people and there are still arguments about whether or not that is a bad thing to do
yeah, but the government of Germany isn't like "okay the holocaust happened, sure, but we didn't mean to kill all those Jews"
shitty 20something internet marxists like to argue that the red terror and kulak genocide and kossak purges and every goddamn thing mao did are just like totally not that bad just look man here is another shitty meme about late stage capitalism
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PiptheFairFrequently not in boats.Registered Userregular
I think he used some variant of "they killed us too!" in addition to the usual attribution of the deaths to famine and (forced) migration
Basically if your people get slaughtered, never take up any arms or someone will spin it this way (I have honestly no idea if there was armed resistance to the Armenian Genocide, he portrayed it as some sort of civil war)
Platy on
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PiptheFairFrequently not in boats.Registered Userregular
I think he used some variant of "they killed us too!" in addition to the usual attribution of the deaths to famine and (forced) migration
Basically if your people get slaughtered, never take up any arms or someone will spin it this way (I have honestly no idea if there was armed resistance to the Armenian Genocide, he portrayed it as some sort of civil war)
there was armed resistance, and the turkish army got fucking bodied by significantly inferior forces
I once took a political science class on genocide and there was this Turkish exchange student who smugly denied that the Armenian Genocide was a thing that happened
Eventually no one ever referenced it again just not to trigger the guy anymore
that this is still a controversial issue is absolutely unconscionable
Most atrocities tend to get denied by the perpetrators, it does make you look pretty bad
I mean shit, my town has a big statue of a dude who put a bounty on the scalps of First Nations people and there are still arguments about whether or not that is a bad thing to do
yeah, but the government of Germany isn't like "okay the holocaust happened, sure, but we didn't mean to kill all those Jews"
Germany appears to be a unique historical artifact, I can't thing of anybody else who has erected monuments and museums to their own shame
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Shortytouching the meatIntergalactic Cool CourtRegistered Userregular
I once took a political science class on genocide and there was this Turkish exchange student who smugly denied that the Armenian Genocide was a thing that happened
Eventually no one ever referenced it again just not to trigger the guy anymore
that this is still a controversial issue is absolutely unconscionable
Most atrocities tend to get denied by the perpetrators, it does make you look pretty bad
I mean shit, my town has a big statue of a dude who put a bounty on the scalps of First Nations people and there are still arguments about whether or not that is a bad thing to do
yeah, but the government of Germany isn't like "okay the holocaust happened, sure, but we didn't mean to kill all those Jews"
shitty 20something internet marxists like to argue that the red terror and kulak genocide and kossak purges and every goddamn thing mao did are just like totally not that bad just look man here is another shitty meme about late stage capitalism
western history of Russia is a fucking tire fire and I hate talking about it, especially on the internet
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PiptheFairFrequently not in boats.Registered Userregular
I once took a political science class on genocide and there was this Turkish exchange student who smugly denied that the Armenian Genocide was a thing that happened
Eventually no one ever referenced it again just not to trigger the guy anymore
that this is still a controversial issue is absolutely unconscionable
Most atrocities tend to get denied by the perpetrators, it does make you look pretty bad
I mean shit, my town has a big statue of a dude who put a bounty on the scalps of First Nations people and there are still arguments about whether or not that is a bad thing to do
yeah, but the government of Germany isn't like "okay the holocaust happened, sure, but we didn't mean to kill all those Jews"
Germany appears to be a unique historical artifact, I can't thing of anybody else who has erected monuments and museums to their own shame
we've been pretty forward about first nation genocide and the tuskegee project
EDIT:
I mean, our continued governmental disinterest in black and native populations is decidedly not great
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If shooting guns sexually excited them, then yes probably. If they also owned a functioning penis, anyway.
Saw this on Mike Duncan's twitter.
There are people role-playing the Russian Revolution on twitter and tweeting it in real time.
Sure, but after we lost the use of prehensile mustaches we had to groom our hair ourselves, and standards of dress slipped.
Y'ALL
THIS SAME DUDE JUST
OPENLY
ADVOCATED
FOR EUGENICS.
Like, we're talking about the 20's still and my teacher was talking about the spread of eugenics and rightly said it was a pseudo-science, and this dude got all huffy and was like WELL WHY IS IT A PSEUDO-SCIENCE, IF YOU STOP PEOPLE FROM SPREADING BAD GENES and my teacher was like NAH STOP, HUSH YOUR MOUTH IMMEDIATELY
i am stymied.
I wanna. Reeeeaaal bad.
But I also wanna stay in school. My revolutionary zeal extends only so far as risking my education.
Tell him you have some really great wine stashed away he should come over and get.
My public speaking class had the two most amazing fucking racist guys Ive ever met. One insisted that Native Americans actually had to many rights because according to him he had witnessed a situation where a native had been murdered and the FBI were "scared to enter the reservation because they would be killed". I dont remember the context that caused the other one to insist that it was actually moral that we took over this continent and genocided a people.
That's THE BEST THING
"Sandra has a good solid anti-murderer vibe. My skin felt very secure and sufficiently attached to my body when I met her. Also my organs." HAIL SATAN
When I started my MA, one of the standard icebreakers was talking about peoples' undergraduate theses. As soon as I mentioned mine (shifting popular attitudes towards mental illness in the early 20th century) a few others in the cohort instantly perked up and assumed that meant I was obviously going to agree with them about their love of eugenics, volunteering a list of demographics they thought needed sterilization.
Some magnificently insane person started livetweeting the First World War back in the summer of 2014, and it's still going!
this is the best thing that's ever happened to my social media life
"Sandra has a good solid anti-murderer vibe. My skin felt very secure and sufficiently attached to my body when I met her. Also my organs." HAIL SATAN
there's one for WW2 as well! however, it has already advanced to 1945. But it's been going for a few years.
https://twitter.com/RealTimeWWII
It was produced by Steven Spielberg and includes interviews with Guillermo Del Toro, Spielberg, Francis Ford Coppola, Lawrence Kasdan, Paul Greengrass, and archived interviews from the five directors. You'd think a film about directors in war made by a celebrated director of war movies would be a little masturbatory, but it's fairly even coverage. Even showing the absurdity of one of the directors landing in Africa and complaining that he'd missed the entire conflict in that theatre.
coupled with his other opinions and how excited he seemed about starting this unit, i think this goes beyond simple historical nerdery.
edit: dude also doesn't understand the concept of a rhetorical question. THE PROFESSOR ISN'T ALWAYS LOOKING FOR YOUR INPUT, BILLY, YOU FUCK.
Eventually no one ever referenced it again just not to trigger the guy anymore
that this is still a controversial issue is absolutely unconscionable
Hint: tell him to shut his stupid fucking pie hole.
Most atrocities tend to get denied by the perpetrators, it does make you look pretty bad
I mean shit, my town has a big statue of a dude who put a bounty on the scalps of First Nations people and there are still arguments about whether or not that is a bad thing to do
There are multiple reasons for this, for one thing Japan was seen as very unthreatening after WW2 and the Communist government wished to avoid the narrative of a heroic defense of the country by the Kuomintang
As some people surely know, Japanese responsibility was also mostly swept under the rug by the US in the aftermath of the war
THEY JUST WENT ON VACATION STOP ASKING
yeah, but the government of Germany isn't like "okay the holocaust happened, sure, but we didn't mean to kill all those Jews"
shitty 20something internet marxists like to argue that the red terror and kulak genocide and kossak purges and every goddamn thing mao did are just like totally not that bad just look man here is another shitty meme about late stage capitalism
pieces of shit got what they deserved
Basically if your people get slaughtered, never take up any arms or someone will spin it this way (I have honestly no idea if there was armed resistance to the Armenian Genocide, he portrayed it as some sort of civil war)
there was armed resistance, and the turkish army got fucking bodied by significantly inferior forces
Germany appears to be a unique historical artifact, I can't thing of anybody else who has erected monuments and museums to their own shame
western history of Russia is a fucking tire fire and I hate talking about it, especially on the internet
we've been pretty forward about first nation genocide and the tuskegee project
EDIT:
I mean, our continued governmental disinterest in black and native populations is decidedly not great