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Penny Arcade - Comic - Opposite Day

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  • BlackDoveBlackDove Registered User regular
    In a way, the absence of Perkins as a DM this year made me appreciate what he did/does for these Acquisitions PAX appearances even more. He really does operate on another level, and I don't mean just props wise.

    Also, good to see the new mutiplayer Doom avatars. Right? No?

  • dennisdennis Executive Peasant Registered User regular
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    dennis wrote: »
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    I feel like this might be intended as a defense of the character designs but I'd say the joke still works honestly.

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  • dennisdennis Executive Peasant Registered User regular
    edited April 2016
    cB557 wrote: »
    I feel like this might be intended as a defense of the character designs but I'd say the joke still works honestly.

    I left it without comment because I was curious if anyone would take it the way you did. Mainly I did it just because the comic made me curious about what it was making fun of (I'd never heard of it). Figured it might save some people who were in the same boat some time. In looking at the character designs, my main takeaway was that they were fairly silly. Especially Mr. Guns, whose real name is "Twinblast". Which is actually almost more of a joke name than "Mr. Guns."

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  • TrygylTrygyl Registered User regular
    Feels like they're saying it's generic as heck, but I don't know what that has to do with opposite day?

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  • zaitcevzaitcev Registered User regular
    This art is way too deformed and I cannot figure out if Gabe was trying to send some kind of message or it's just where his general art direction is taking him.

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  • GaslightGaslight Registered User regular
    dennis wrote: »
    cB557 wrote: »
    I feel like this might be intended as a defense of the character designs but I'd say the joke still works honestly.

    I left it without comment because I was curious if anyone would take it the way you did. Mainly I did it just because the comic made me curious about what it was making fun of (I'd never heard of it). Figured it might save some people who were in the same boat some time. In looking at the character designs, my main takeaway was that they were fairly silly. Especially Mr. Guns, whose real name is "Twinblast". Which is actually almost more of a joke name than "Mr. Guns."

    Names they considered and rejected before settling on "Twinblast":

    Bi-bang
    Doubleshoot
    Prince Parallel Pistols

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    Paragon Heroes is yet another shooter/Moba hybrid right? I guess I don't understand the joke in the comic. Even with the context of the actual character models photoshopped into the comic, I still don't really get it. "It" being the joke. And the title of the comic.

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  • GaslightGaslight Registered User regular
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    Paragon Heroes is yet another shooter/Moba hybrid right? I guess I don't understand the joke in the comic. Even with the context of the actual character models photoshopped into the comic, I still don't really get it. "It" being the joke. And the title of the comic.

    Pretty sure the joke is that the characters designs in this game blow goats.

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  • dennisdennis Executive Peasant Registered User regular
    Gaslight wrote: »
    dennis wrote: »
    cB557 wrote: »
    I feel like this might be intended as a defense of the character designs but I'd say the joke still works honestly.

    I left it without comment because I was curious if anyone would take it the way you did. Mainly I did it just because the comic made me curious about what it was making fun of (I'd never heard of it). Figured it might save some people who were in the same boat some time. In looking at the character designs, my main takeaway was that they were fairly silly. Especially Mr. Guns, whose real name is "Twinblast". Which is actually almost more of a joke name than "Mr. Guns."

    Names they considered and rejected before settling on "Twinblast":

    Bi-bang
    Doubleshoot
    Prince Parallel Pistols

    Doppelbanger

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  • GaslightGaslight Registered User regular
    dennis wrote: »
    Gaslight wrote: »
    dennis wrote: »
    cB557 wrote: »
    I feel like this might be intended as a defense of the character designs but I'd say the joke still works honestly.

    I left it without comment because I was curious if anyone would take it the way you did. Mainly I did it just because the comic made me curious about what it was making fun of (I'd never heard of it). Figured it might save some people who were in the same boat some time. In looking at the character designs, my main takeaway was that they were fairly silly. Especially Mr. Guns, whose real name is "Twinblast". Which is actually almost more of a joke name than "Mr. Guns."

    Names they considered and rejected before settling on "Twinblast":

    Bi-bang
    Doubleshoot
    Prince Parallel Pistols

    Doppelbanger

    Dammit that's actually kind of good.

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  • ClinkieClinkie Registered User new member
    Jesus christ, this had me laugh out loud.

  • 21stCentury21stCentury A lovely pixel artist and gamecrafter [They/Them]Registered User regular
    That's Mr. Guns,
    That's my name.
    That name again
    in Mr. Guns.

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  • T-DangerT-Danger Registered User regular
    https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/heroes

    Let's not overlook Paragon's other unforgettable characters, such as Archer Woman, Tech Geek Girl, Space Marine, Skintight suit Ninja, Grim Reaper, Giant Reptile Man and Giant Reptile Man with bonehammers.

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  • Man in the MistsMan in the Mists Registered User regular
    dennis wrote: »
    Gaslight wrote: »
    dennis wrote: »
    cB557 wrote: »
    I feel like this might be intended as a defense of the character designs but I'd say the joke still works honestly.

    I left it without comment because I was curious if anyone would take it the way you did. Mainly I did it just because the comic made me curious about what it was making fun of (I'd never heard of it). Figured it might save some people who were in the same boat some time. In looking at the character designs, my main takeaway was that they were fairly silly. Especially Mr. Guns, whose real name is "Twinblast". Which is actually almost more of a joke name than "Mr. Guns."

    Names they considered and rejected before settling on "Twinblast":

    Bi-bang
    Doubleshoot
    Prince Parallel Pistols

    Doppelbanger

    That sounds like the name of a clone porn flick.

  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    dennis wrote: »
    Gaslight wrote: »
    dennis wrote: »
    cB557 wrote: »
    I feel like this might be intended as a defense of the character designs but I'd say the joke still works honestly.

    I left it without comment because I was curious if anyone would take it the way you did. Mainly I did it just because the comic made me curious about what it was making fun of (I'd never heard of it). Figured it might save some people who were in the same boat some time. In looking at the character designs, my main takeaway was that they were fairly silly. Especially Mr. Guns, whose real name is "Twinblast". Which is actually almost more of a joke name than "Mr. Guns."

    Names they considered and rejected before settling on "Twinblast":

    Bi-bang
    Doubleshoot
    Prince Parallel Pistols

    Doppelbanger

    That sounds like the name of a clone porn flick.

    nah it's actually a custom-designed sex toy that lets you bang a replica of your own butt

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  • AcidCatAcidCat Registered User regular
    Clinkie wrote: »
    Jesus christ, this had me laugh out loud.

    Seriously, me too, I don't know why but this is the funniest PA Comic in a while. "Woman" and associated portrait just puts it over the top for me LOL.

  • DonnictonDonnicton Registered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
    dennis wrote: »
    Gaslight wrote: »
    dennis wrote: »
    cB557 wrote: »
    I feel like this might be intended as a defense of the character designs but I'd say the joke still works honestly.

    I left it without comment because I was curious if anyone would take it the way you did. Mainly I did it just because the comic made me curious about what it was making fun of (I'd never heard of it). Figured it might save some people who were in the same boat some time. In looking at the character designs, my main takeaway was that they were fairly silly. Especially Mr. Guns, whose real name is "Twinblast". Which is actually almost more of a joke name than "Mr. Guns."

    Names they considered and rejected before settling on "Twinblast":

    Bi-bang
    Doubleshoot
    Prince Parallel Pistols

    Doppelbanger

    That sounds like the name of a clone porn flick.

    nah it's actually a custom-designed sex toy that lets you bang a replica of your own butt

    3D printers nowadays man

    they sure are advanced

  • FTVFTV Registered User regular
    This is honestly how I've felt when looking at almost every AAA game the last 10 years plus. There's this certain totally generic aesthetic that has completely death chocked the industry forever now.

  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    This was one of those comics where I had no clue what was going on or what the joke was when I looked at it. So I went to the newspost hoping for context, and it was just three vague sentences before moving on to talking about a Kickstarter. Thankfully, I have you fine people here in this thread to clarify context-less comics to me.

    And now that I get the joke, mehhhhhh.

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  • GaslightGaslight Registered User regular
    edited April 2016
    forty wrote: »
    This was one of those comics where I had no clue what was going on or what the joke was when I looked at it. So I went to the newspost hoping for context, and it was just three vague sentences before moving on to talking about a Kickstarter. Thankfully, I have you fine people here in this thread to clarify context-less comics to me.

    The joke is about a game having terrible art and design. The newspost links to the game website and says the game has terrible art and design.

    I'm not sure what further explanation you feel was in order.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Yeah it seemed pretty cut and dry to me. I mean its by the gears of war guys right? The pinnacle of terrible character design.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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  • dennisdennis Executive Peasant Registered User regular
    One thing I find funny is that the second and third (especially second) frame of the comic has them drawn super-distorted. But if you look at the original model for the Animal Person, the ACTUAL model is really not that different than Mike's drawing. It just looks fucked up in slightly different ways.

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  • ragnarok628ragnarok628 Registered User regular
    edited April 2016
    Trygyl wrote: »
    Feels like they're saying it's generic as heck, but I don't know what that has to do with opposite day?

    Well, 'paragon' usually refers to a model of excellence. So on opposite day, generic character design is, I guess, considered of paramount virtue.

    However on another level, it would actually make sense for a touchstone of perfection to be somewhat generic so maybe it's not so opposite-y after all, particularly if you don't agree with the implication that the art design is both generic *and* bad. Or another way to look at it would be that the character design is a Paragon of mediocrity! So the title is somewhat tangential to the joke, not that that is uncommon.

    ETA: the title would be more apropos if the game was called "Iconoclast: Heroes"

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  • BloodySlothBloodySloth Registered User regular
    I honestly can't believe that Twinblasts's thing is simply that he has two guns. Like that's the one interesting thing they could latch onto about his entire design, and they just doubled down on it. His catchphrase is "Go in. Both guns blazing." like wtf

    The game's most out there designs are "less fun Rocket Raccoon" and "a chibi Warhammer Orc riding a Zergling" and that's really sad. The two big bruiser aliens look nearly identical except for their faces, which are still kind of boring.

    Hilariously, if you watch the hero spotlight video of the less fun Rocket character, all you get to see while playing as him is the back of his big power armor suit, so he might as well just be another generic space marine dude.

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  • TofystedethTofystedeth veni, veneri, vamoosi Registered User regular
    He should be a tiny human in giant raccoon shaped power armor.

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  • MirkelMirkel FinlandRegistered User regular
    He should be a tiny human in giant raccoon shaped power armor.

    That would be way too original.

  • RatherDashing89RatherDashing89 Registered User regular
    T-Danger wrote: »
    https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/heroes

    Let's not overlook Paragon's other unforgettable characters, such as Archer Woman, Tech Geek Girl, Space Marine, Skintight suit Ninja, Grim Reaper, Giant Reptile Man and Giant Reptile Man with bonehammers.

    My gosh. The Colossus lookalike is named Steel. And the evil (perhaps one-winged?) angel is named Sevarog.

    It's in your head now...dun da dun da dun da dun da SEVAROG!

  • dennisdennis Executive Peasant Registered User regular
    And the evil (perhaps one-winged?) angel is named Sevarog.

    Hey, they can't all be winners like "Twinblast."

    For some reason, !Rocket reminds me of the Quiznos rats:
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  • DissentDissent Mr. Fancy Pants Flavour CountryRegistered User regular
    Epic Games, living off of the unreal engine and cookie cutter character design for 15 years running now...

  • GaslightGaslight Registered User regular
    Yeah the character design in the new Unreal Tournament is no better, although I guess it matters less there.

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  • DjiemDjiem Registered User regular
    edited April 2016
    From what I've played of Paragon, it's pretty fun, but I'll agree the character design (and the whole game art in general) is generic as shit, and with stuff like Overwatch out there, this simply isn't acceptable.

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  • MacMcCrackMacMcCrack Duchess of Manboob Wherever mediocrity is celebratedRegistered User regular
    yeah in a post-Overwatch world these half assed designs won't cut it. They are stuck in the 90s.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Yeah Pargon's character designs are straight out of a trapper keeper.

    "Its my new game design for 'Cool Dudes and a lady'"

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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  • DjiemDjiem Registered User regular
    T-Danger wrote: »
    https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/heroes

    Let's not overlook Paragon's other unforgettable characters, such as Archer Woman, Tech Geek Girl, Space Marine, Skintight suit Ninja, Grim Reaper, Giant Reptile Man and Giant Reptile Man with bonehammers.

    Oh jesus, the Tech Geek Girl is called "Gadget".

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    So are there people out there who are actually interested in this game? I get this feeling that between Overwatch and Battleborn, both of which have way more style points and personality than this game appears to have that it is gonna get buried and be the forgotten "third game."

    In 5 years we'll be saying things like "Remember when Overwatch and Battleborn came out and it was a good time for shooters? Oh and wasn't there another game too? Hmm. Yeah I think there was but I don't remember what it was now."

  • TofystedethTofystedeth veni, veneri, vamoosi Registered User regular
    Djiem wrote: »
    T-Danger wrote: »
    https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/heroes

    Let's not overlook Paragon's other unforgettable characters, such as Archer Woman, Tech Geek Girl, Space Marine, Skintight suit Ninja, Grim Reaper, Giant Reptile Man and Giant Reptile Man with bonehammers.

    Oh jesus, the Tech Geek Girl is called "Gadget".

    Is she also a mouse? That might be acceptable then.

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    Gaslight wrote: »
    forty wrote: »
    This was one of those comics where I had no clue what was going on or what the joke was when I looked at it. So I went to the newspost hoping for context, and it was just three vague sentences before moving on to talking about a Kickstarter. Thankfully, I have you fine people here in this thread to clarify context-less comics to me.

    The joke is about a game having terrible art and design. The newspost links to the game website and says the game has terrible art and design.
    dry and clean [...] [No link to the game website]
    terrible art and design
    One of these things is not like the other.

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  • dennisdennis Executive Peasant Registered User regular
    edited April 2016
    forty wrote: »
    Gaslight wrote: »
    forty wrote: »
    This was one of those comics where I had no clue what was going on or what the joke was when I looked at it. So I went to the newspost hoping for context, and it was just three vague sentences before moving on to talking about a Kickstarter. Thankfully, I have you fine people here in this thread to clarify context-less comics to me.

    The joke is about a game having terrible art and design. The newspost links to the game website and says the game has terrible art and design.
    dry and clean [...] [No link to the game website]
    terrible art and design
    One of these things is not like the other.

    Jerry is almost always reticent about calling something terrible. Usually, he questions whether it's his own fault for not liking something. That's one of his prime personality traits. For him, saying "it’s also possible there’s nothing there to get" is about as damning as you'll get.

    But if you look at the strip and think Mike isn't using the language of comics to say their art and design are terrible... well, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

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  • darleysamdarleysam UKRegistered User regular
    dennis wrote: »
    forty wrote: »
    Gaslight wrote: »
    forty wrote: »
    This was one of those comics where I had no clue what was going on or what the joke was when I looked at it. So I went to the newspost hoping for context, and it was just three vague sentences before moving on to talking about a Kickstarter. Thankfully, I have you fine people here in this thread to clarify context-less comics to me.

    The joke is about a game having terrible art and design. The newspost links to the game website and says the game has terrible art and design.
    dry and clean [...] [No link to the game website]
    terrible art and design
    One of these things is not like the other.

    Jerry is almost always reticent about calling something terrible. Usually, he questions whether it's his own fault for not liking something. That's one of his prime personality traits. For him, saying "it’s also possible there’s nothing there to get" is about as damning as you'll get.

    But if you look at the strip and think Mike isn't using the language of comics to say their art and design are terrible... well, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

    Yeah if you watch them in First 15, if Mike doesn't like something's art, he'll straight-up say it with no pulled punches. And this here looks like how one artist tells another that they don't think much of their work.

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