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[Windows OS] Version 1604 - RIP Windows Vista

wunderbarwunderbar Registered User regular
Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome to the Windows OS thread. We talk the Windows OS in mobile, tablet, desktop, and even IoT form if you so desire.

Windows 10 is the new windows. The most current release version is Windows 10 1703, meaning it came out in March of 2017 (except that it actually started rolling out on April 11. because reasons). This was an update from the 1607 version, which was an update to the 1511 version, which itself was an update to the original release, 1507. Noticing a pattern here? This is the new norm. You can expect 2 incremental OS updates to Windows 10 per year now, except in 2016 when there was only one, because Microsoft. This will bring changes to Windows 10 over time. Version 1703 might not seem super different but if you could find a pc on 1507 you'd see a lot of changes. Also, unless you're an enterprise business you're getting the new versions anyway. Windows 10 largely fixes a lot of the issues that Windows 8.x had, especially on desktop/traditional computers. There are conflicting beliefs on whether it is better on a tablet. I think a majority will say yes, but it definitely is not unanimous. -1607 makes further changes to the tablet interface which brings it closer to the Windows 8.1 look.

There are also fears about the telemetry gathering in Windows 10. Microsoft has been collecting telemetry for 10 years now, since Vista, and while it is true they are doing more in Windows 10, almost everything is anonymized, especially if you turn off the advertising ID telemetry. There is nothing that links how many Joe User actually clicks the start button or goes to that website he doesn’t want his wife to know about. You really have nothing to worry about.

That being said, some people do not want Microsoft to collect any data on them. If you ware one of those people here is a link with instructions on how to block the telemetry. https://fix10.isleaked.com/. It works as of the time the OP was originally posted.

Windows 10 support is a tad convoluted, but here we go. Since Windows 10 is updated twice a year, the older versions largely go away quickly anyway. This means that for the vast majority of people, you will *always* be on a supported version of Windows 10. Microsoft also supports prior versions for a period of time. While we're not quite 100% defined on that, Version 1507 will exit support in May of 2017. Versions 1511, 1607, and 1703 will all continue to be supported. This means that if you are somehow still on the original 1507 release you will not receive any security updates. Versions still supported, but are not the current version, will receive security fixes only. Again, the number of consumers this should directly affect will be statistially zero, but there does appear to be a support cycle for older builds. Note that this is not all that dis-similar from pervious versions, where Service Packs were eventually required for updates. (i.e. you must be on Win7 SP1 to receive updates, the non SP1 version is no longer updated).

Windows 8.x is a complicated flower. The initial 8.0 release is no longer supported in any way. If you are somehow still on that, get at least to 8.1, which is a free update. 8.1 will be supported until January 10, 2023. 8.1 was good to great on touchscreens, and largely terrible on anything else. It’ll be remembered like Windows ME was. Some great ideas executed in the poorest way possible.

Windows 7. Oh Windows 7. The rock of Microsoft, and the new XP. Until Windows 10 this was unquestionably the best Windows ever made. Some people still think it is. Windows 7 is supported until January 14th, 2020.

NOTE ABOUT WINDOWS 8.1 AND 7 SUPPORT Microsoft has stopped supporting Windows 7 and 8.1 on modern CPU platforms. This means that if you install windows 7 on an Intel Kaby Lake or an AMD Ryzen system, you will not receive any updates after April 2017. This is a very long story, but these newer processors do things like power management very differently than older parts, and actually require significant investment in writing drivers for the processors to support them. Microsoft has chosen not to do so. Windows 7 is currently sitting in extended support, meaning security fixes only, so this, believe it or not, is reasonable for Windows 7. Windows 8.1 on the otherhand... is still in mainstream support until mid 2018, meaning Microsoft should be updating it, and are choosing not to. That is unfortunate, and wrong, but not much we can do about it.

The tl;dr of this is that technically Windows 7 and 8.1 are still supported on existing machines, but you're not getting support if you try to install them on new hardware.

Windows Vista is now out of support as of 2017. Vista is poorly remembered, but Vista is about 90% of what Windows 7 became. However if you are still running it, time to move on.

Windows XP has been out of support since 2014. You should not be running it. It was a great OS in 2001, but it isn’t 2001 anymore.

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  • wunderbarwunderbar Registered User regular
    Space reserved in case I think I need it.

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  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    I'm wondering, is the Cortana change the first real instance of feature leprosy in Windows 10?

    There's certainly going to be much more of it in the years to come.

  • XeddicusXeddicus Registered User regular
    Yeah, shit like this is why I know a guy who's still on XP and will never get off it. XP isn't dead, it's just gone but not forgotten.

    Though I think he should probably at least get to 7.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    Simpsonia wrote: »
    I just really wish that Chrome wouldn't just plain break my Windows 10.

    A regular occurrence is that some wepage will refuse to load, causing every other tab to refuse to load. I will close Chrome, and kill off all processes. However, if I try to open Chrome again, the processes start, but it never actually loads up. The only thing that fixes this is a complete system reboot. And, even worse, sometimes when trying to reboot, Windows will hang at the blue screen with the rotating symbol trying to reboot, forcing a forced power-off. It's absolutely infuriating. Has anyone else experienced this at all?

    When shit like this happens, I find a chrome component is usually corrupted. Remove garbage extensions if there are any, and install chrome again over itself.

    Or go to the 64-bit chrome if you're feeling saucy.

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  • BarrakkethBarrakketh Registered User regular
    I haven't had any issues with Windows 10 and Chrome. I'm the kind of user who leaves Chrome open until an update (Chrome or Windows) requires a restart and opens tons of tabs as part of his normal browsing pattern...every time I visit PA I'll open every single thread I'm watching in a new tab and go through them one at a time (and if I get distracted they stay open until I'm ready to be less productive again). Depending on how scatterbrained I'm feeling I can end up with three or four windows with 10+ tabs each depending on the sites I visit and put off...PA and Reddit can easily account for half of my tabs.

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  • jjae2123jjae2123 Registered User regular
    Windows 10 and chrome all day as well, haven't had any chrome issues. I also only have like one extension.

  • FremFrem Registered User regular
    Xeddicus wrote: »
    Yeah, shit like this is why I know a guy who's still on XP and will never get off it. XP isn't dead, it's just gone but not forgotten.

    Though I think he should probably at least get to 7.

    If it's not getting security updates, it's both dead and a liability. Your guy is a silly goose who may or may not be actively contributing to the propagation of malware.

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  • XeddicusXeddicus Registered User regular
    No argument from me, but on the other hand if he gets people to target XP it's a win for me, so rock and a hard place!

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  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    Really, people should be looking into transitioning to 8.1 for the long run. 8 was terrible at launch, but there's been enough changes and third-party support that it's a solid sidegrade now. The only real reason left to stick to 7 if 8.1 is available for the same price or cheaper would be if you need to use the OneDrive client.

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  • wunderbarwunderbar Registered User regular
    8.1 is destined to occupy the same part of the market as Vista, just as 7 is and will occupy the same space on the market as XP did. You're not going to find any "mainstream" user who is still on Windows 7 that is actually going to pay to upgrade to 8.1, especially since 10 is free. And again, "mainstream" users are not going to be the ones that will install start8 or 3rd party utilities like that. It just doesn't happen. And 8.1 is not as good as 7 or 10 on a traditional desktop/non touch computer. It just isn't. As power users, we can say that for us it was/is ok, and we got used to it, and we just do things differently anyway. But I deal with a lot of "mainstream" people in what I do, and There isn't a single one I've come across that likes 8.x on anything other than a tablet. Not one. People are not going to go from 7 10 8.x en masse. It didn't happen in 2012-2015, and it sure as heck won't happen now.

    Besides, as of October 30th of this year you won't be able to buy copies of 8.1 any more anyway. I believe OEM's will still be able to sell the pro sku pre-installed on business machines for another year or so, but there will be no more retail or "normal" oem sales as of November of this year.

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  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    edited May 2016
    8.1 will probably continue in a small way because it's the cornerstone of the evolution to pure tablet PCs (and it works fine, or even great, as a tablet PC operating system). If tablet PCs had ended up being a fluke, that would've doomed it, but they didn't. Since tablet PCs sold particular well with consumers who have the least motivation to upgrade to Windows 10--they bought something like a Dell Venue 8 Pro because it wasn't much more expensive than a high-end Kindle, and the rest of the Android tablet marketplace can be an overwhelming mess--I wouldn't be surprised if 8.1 tablets survive well past their intended lifetimes.

    My mother is a prime example of this. She knows Windows 10 is a thing, and will probably upgrade her desktop at some point, but there's no reason for her to upgrade her tablet.

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  • wunderbarwunderbar Registered User regular
    I'd argue that over time the improvement to UWP in Windows 10 and the fact that most of the apps that are actually being built in UWP now won't run on 8.1 will limit the long term usefulness of it, especially on a tablet form.

    That being said, if I'm a mainstream users I'd be terrified of upgrading the windows OS on one of those cheap 8.1 tablets that came out. Granted part of this is because of insider builds but I had to recover my Venue 8 pro and installing an OS from media on that type of device is not a pleasant experience.

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  • ErlkönigErlkönig Registered User regular
    Honestly, I'm terrified of upgrading my Surface Pro 2 to Win10. I mean, it runs perfectly with 8.1 for all uses that I call on it for. If I'm on a plane and just want to watch a movie? Pull off the type cover and stick with the Metro UI. If I need to actually do work on it using Excel, Word, or ArcView? Keep the type cover attached, plug in my mouse, and use the desktop mode. But if I get locked into exclusive desktop mode and have the Metro UI removed? Yeah, that's less ideal for those times I want to use my SP2 as a tablet.

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  • wunderbarwunderbar Registered User regular
    edited May 2016
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Honestly, I'm terrified of upgrading my Surface Pro 2 to Win10. I mean, it runs perfectly with 8.1 for all uses that I call on it for. If I'm on a plane and just want to watch a movie? Pull off the type cover and stick with the Metro UI. If I need to actually do work on it using Excel, Word, or ArcView? Keep the type cover attached, plug in my mouse, and use the desktop mode. But if I get locked into exclusive desktop mode and have the Metro UI removed? Yeah, that's less ideal for those times I want to use my SP2 as a tablet.

    Will, the tablet mode in windows 10 is very robust, and the fact that you can choose to run it as a desktop OS or a tablet OS makes waaay more sense on a 2 in 1 type device. In your case, pull off the type cover and get a full screen tablet experience, put the type cover on and get a desktop operating system that's closer to windows 7 than 8.1.

    And while not everyone agrees with this, my opinion is that except in a few certain use cases the tablet mode in 10 is way better than in 8.1. And the annoyances that were there, like the stupid all apps list in 10's tablet mode, are being changed in the coming summer update to windows 10 to hopefully fix a lot of those problems.

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  • jungleroomxjungleroomx Patently RidiculousRegistered User regular
    Thanks for picking this up @wunderbar

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  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    I know that Windows 10 was/is terrifying on Surfaces in particular, though I don't know if that's limited to the new ones now.

  • wunderbarwunderbar Registered User regular
    I think that was less Windows 10 and more the drivers/hardware support by Microsoft on the Pro 4 and the Book, both which shipped with 10 out of the box. They have/had terrible bugs that you don't see in any other device that shipped with 10.

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  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    There were also some issues with touches always registering as right clicks, though I don't know if that was Surface-exclusive.

  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Honestly, I'm terrified of upgrading my Surface Pro 2 to Win10. I mean, it runs perfectly with 8.1 for all uses that I call on it for. If I'm on a plane and just want to watch a movie? Pull off the type cover and stick with the Metro UI. If I need to actually do work on it using Excel, Word, or ArcView? Keep the type cover attached, plug in my mouse, and use the desktop mode. But if I get locked into exclusive desktop mode and have the Metro UI removed? Yeah, that's less ideal for those times I want to use my SP2 as a tablet.

    I've actually upgraded my Surface Pro 3 to 10 simply as an experiment--I can say that there are advantages and disadvantages. I didn't have a Windows 10 machine in my hose for Xbox One integration.

    Honestly, the Surface Pro devices as a whole were so meticulously engineered around Windows 8.1 that there's no reason not to stay if you don't need DirectX 12 or something exclusive to Windows 10.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    wunderbar wrote: »
    I'd argue that over time the improvement to UWP in Windows 10 and the fact that most of the apps that are actually being built in UWP now won't run on 8.1 will limit the long term usefulness of it, especially on a tablet form.

    That being said, if I'm a mainstream users I'd be terrified of upgrading the windows OS on one of those cheap 8.1 tablets that came out. Granted part of this is because of insider builds but I had to recover my Venue 8 pro and installing an OS from media on that type of device is not a pleasant experience.

    Some of those tablets have just enough storage to hold the os and some extra files. Like 48GB storage. Makes upgrading to 10 a bitch since you can't keep the backup OS to go back to if you need it. 10 didn't work? Get fucked!

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  • ZxerolZxerol Registered User regular
    wunderbar wrote: »
    I think that was less Windows 10 and more the drivers/hardware support by Microsoft on the Pro 4 and the Book, both which shipped with 10 out of the box. They have/had terrible bugs that you don't see in any other device that shipped with 10.

    Yeah, there are some issues with the SP4 and SB that's that's not necessarily related to W10 (word is that MS has had serious issues dealing with Skylake and S0x standby). After the latest 4/19 update, these devices are to the point where they're generally pretty stable, although weird bullshit still remains (my SB still exhibits the "sleep of death" issue on AC power, although I just force updated an Intel driver which seemed to have alleviate it somewhat, but who the hell knows).

  • wunderbarwunderbar Registered User regular
    Microsoft has confirmed that the free Windows 10 upgrade will end on July 29th, and that after that date users with Windows 7 and 8.1 will have to purchase a retail license for $120USD.

    On the plus side, the Get Windows 10 notifications will also stop after that.

    It completely boggles my mind how badly Microsoft has screwed this up. Windows 10 is a great OS, but the PR from this debacle of a year long upgrade is undoing almost all of the good from it.

    I mean, I don't have a phd in marketing, but it just seems so simple.

    -Make Windows 10 a free upgrade for anyone who has 7 or 8.1, and do not put a time limit on it. I could see an argument for only allowing a 7 or 8.1 license to be upgraded for free x number of times, but if i have a windows 7 computer that I want to upgrade to 10 in 2018, that should be free.

    -Don't force it down people's throats. Present the option. Hell, I'm even ok with the odd pop up saying "hey do you want this?" But then have yes, and no buttons. Let the user choose. I like Windows 10 a lot but I also recognize there are many legit reasons to not want to upgrade a computer to it.

    There. That's it. That's all they had to do. And they didn't.

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  • BolthornBolthorn Registered User regular
    I agree. Getting the notification on my HTPC running Windows 7 is annoying and I'm afraid of someone else in the household possibly clicking "Yes" or "OK" or whatever the button is that will start the install and now we can't watch TV because Media Center isn't a part of Windows 10. I totally wanted it on my main gaming machine and I dig it so far. All my hardware worked expect the printer and we probably needed a new one of those anyhow. I haven't encountered any problems that I could blame on the OS itself. I'm still able to do the things I need to do and run the programs I need to run. It's pretty cool. I dig the way the new weather thing works although I'll always probably miss having a widget on the desktop that shows the weather all the time.

    I'm actually quite looking forward to the Get Windows 10 notification going away on the HTPC. It will reduce some stress from my life. Or bring media center to 10.

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  • wunderbarwunderbar Registered User regular
    Bolthorn wrote: »
    I agree. Getting the notification on my HTPC running Windows 7 is annoying and I'm afraid of someone else in the household possibly clicking "Yes" or "OK" or whatever the button is that will start the install and now we can't watch TV because Media Center isn't a part of Windows 10. I totally wanted it on my main gaming machine and I dig it so far. All my hardware worked expect the printer and we probably needed a new one of those anyhow. I haven't encountered any problems that I could blame on the OS itself. I'm still able to do the things I need to do and run the programs I need to run. It's pretty cool. I dig the way the new weather thing works although I'll always probably miss having a widget on the desktop that shows the weather all the time.

    I'm actually quite looking forward to the Get Windows 10 notification going away on the HTPC. It will reduce some stress from my life. Or bring media center to 10.

    just install and run the GWX control panel on that HTPC and you can make the notification go away right now!

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  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    Wouldn't "making Windows 10 available to 7 and 8 users in perpetuity" kind of get fucked over by how hilariously easy it is to obtain a copy of either operating system? At reduced, or no cost?

    If Microsoft didn't already subscribe to the whole "Well, you went through the trouble of calling about this OS license that's been used 40 times already, I'll go ahead and let you authenticate it," policy, maybe, but they do. They'd basically be dealing with people abusing the process indefinitely.

    Trying to trick people into upgrading to Windows 10 was fucked up, but implying it was going to always be an option sounds like a fucking business nightmare.

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  • wunderbarwunderbar Registered User regular
    Synthesis wrote: »
    Wouldn't "making Windows 10 available to 7 and 8 users in perpetuity" kind of get fucked over by how hilariously easy it is to obtain a copy of either operating system? At reduced, or no cost?

    If Microsoft didn't already subscribe to the whole "Well, you went through the trouble of calling about this OS license that's been used 40 times already, I'll go ahead and let you authenticate it," policy, maybe, but they do. They'd basically be dealing with people abusing the process indefinitely.

    Trying to trick people into upgrading to Windows 10 was fucked up, but implying it was going to always be an option sounds like a fucking business nightmare.

    Not really. The majority of windows licenses are obtained when people buy a new PC, or at least historically that has been the case. Windows 7 sales have already ended except for the Pro sku on certain business machines, and Windows 8.1 retail sales end in October of this year. Yes you can still find a new copy of Windows 7 if you look, but that's not the majority of the market. When my mother goes to best buy to buy a new laptop she's not also looking for Windows 7 in a box on the shelf beside it. She buys a computer, and it comes with Windows.

    I'd actually hypothesize that the vast majority of Win 7/8.1 upgrades to Win10 do not represent lost revenue for Microsoft. They've already sold windows to that PC, and the user wouldn't be inclined to upgrade it to 10 if they had to pay. They'd use 7 until they needed a new machine, and then they'd get 10, which is a license paid for as part of the new PC.

    Letting existing 7/8.1 machines upgrade to 10 also means users might try the windows app store, buy a few apps, maybe rent/buy some movies or music with the groove stuff, all of which microsoft takes a 30% cut of, and also means that when the user is looking for a new computer, they're more inclined to stay with windows.

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  • CampyCampy Registered User regular
    So as part of my hardware upgrade, I finally switched to windows 10 from 8.1. Since I was installing a new mobo, I went with a fresh install. So aside from the usual teething issues with a fresh install everything seems pretty nice so far.

    The only thing I've particularly noticed missing is my handy search shortcut win+f, which I used all the time in 8.1. Is there an analogue for 10 that I've just not found?

    Beyond that are there any tasty UI tips that folks like?

  • wunderbarwunderbar Registered User regular
    Campy wrote: »
    So as part of my hardware upgrade, I finally switched to windows 10 from 8.1. Since I was installing a new mobo, I went with a fresh install. So aside from the usual teething issues with a fresh install everything seems pretty nice so far.

    The only thing I've particularly noticed missing is my handy search shortcut win+f, which I used all the time in 8.1. Is there an analogue for 10 that I've just not found?

    Beyond that are there any tasty UI tips that folks like?

    just...hit the windows key?

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  • CampyCampy Registered User regular
    wunderbar wrote: »
    Campy wrote: »
    So as part of my hardware upgrade, I finally switched to windows 10 from 8.1. Since I was installing a new mobo, I went with a fresh install. So aside from the usual teething issues with a fresh install everything seems pretty nice so far.

    The only thing I've particularly noticed missing is my handy search shortcut win+f, which I used all the time in 8.1. Is there an analogue for 10 that I've just not found?

    Beyond that are there any tasty UI tips that folks like?

    just...hit the windows key?

    Maybe I just had some minor sunstroke from earlier in the day, but it wasn't finding files that should be there.

  • a5ehrena5ehren AtlantaRegistered User regular
    Does WIN+F do anything that a plain WIN+<type search> doesn't? I haven't used the dedicated search function in a long time thanks to being on an SSD.

    As with most "hidden stuff" in Win 10, the explicit "Search" thing you're looking for is in the WIN+X menu. Though it just opens the normal Start menu search anyway.

  • wunderbarwunderbar Registered User regular
    Campy wrote: »
    wunderbar wrote: »
    Campy wrote: »
    So as part of my hardware upgrade, I finally switched to windows 10 from 8.1. Since I was installing a new mobo, I went with a fresh install. So aside from the usual teething issues with a fresh install everything seems pretty nice so far.

    The only thing I've particularly noticed missing is my handy search shortcut win+f, which I used all the time in 8.1. Is there an analogue for 10 that I've just not found?

    Beyond that are there any tasty UI tips that folks like?

    just...hit the windows key?

    Maybe I just had some minor sunstroke from earlier in the day, but it wasn't finding files that should be there.

    give it a git of time. a new Windows install does have to scan the hard drive and index everything before that'll start to work.

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  • LD50LD50 Registered User regular
    You might also have to tell it you want to index your other drives if you have more than one.

  • FremFrem Registered User regular
    Campy wrote: »
    So as part of my hardware upgrade, I finally switched to windows 10 from 8.1. Since I was installing a new mobo, I went with a fresh install. So aside from the usual teething issues with a fresh install everything seems pretty nice so far.

    The only thing I've particularly noticed missing is my handy search shortcut win+f, which I used all the time in 8.1. Is there an analogue for 10 that I've just not found?

    Beyond that are there any tasty UI tips that folks like?

    You can resize the start menu like you would a window.

    The Win+X/Right-click-in-the-bottom-left-corner menu has gotten better. There's a checkbox in Taskbar Properties that lets you put replace the Command Prompt entry with Powershell.

    Win+Tab is OS X's expose feature. You can click the button in the bottom right corner of that screen to add desktops. Ctrl+Left/Right switches desktops.

    You can hide the silly "Search Windows" and "Task View" buttons on the taskbar. They take up space and you don't need them to use their features.

    Microsoft can show you ads on your lock screen. Uncheck "Get fun facts, tips, tricks, and more on your lock screen" in the Lock Screen settings to make them go away.

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  • DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    Campy wrote: »
    wunderbar wrote: »
    Campy wrote: »
    So as part of my hardware upgrade, I finally switched to windows 10 from 8.1. Since I was installing a new mobo, I went with a fresh install. So aside from the usual teething issues with a fresh install everything seems pretty nice so far.

    The only thing I've particularly noticed missing is my handy search shortcut win+f, which I used all the time in 8.1. Is there an analogue for 10 that I've just not found?

    Beyond that are there any tasty UI tips that folks like?

    just...hit the windows key?

    Maybe I just had some minor sunstroke from earlier in the day, but it wasn't finding files that should be there.

    I've had, been having, still have, issues with Win10 search not finding things as well as Win 8.1 search. No fix that I can find. For files I've worked around it mainly by doing searches through the file explorer. Unfortunately that takes longer, but at least I can find the stuff I need eventually.

  • StormwatcherStormwatcher Blegh BlughRegistered User regular
    I recently installed a huge win10 update, that acted like a new OS install, even.
    Finally, the start menu works right! and the colored titlebars for applications are awesome.

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  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    Good to hear. Possibly this weekend, I'm going to do some general drive clean-up/house keeping, take a boot image of my C: drive, and then run the update again.

    That deadline is a huge motivation for me to do this while I'm still on "sabbatical".

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    Only if said Abh is a member of the nobility.
  • MugsleyMugsley Registered User regular
    And so we've "officially" begun W10 testing at work. This should be fun, considering we have some systems in our test labs (gas chromatographs and whatnot) still run by early Pentium machines. Who knows how long this rollout is going to take.

    I'm still trying to get word if I'm due for a computer refresh this year, or not.

  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO ROLLING STAAAAAAAAAAAAART Registered User regular
    is there some easy checkbox somewhere that will get microsoft to stop popping up an ad for Office in the corner of the screen with a "DING" noise every once in a while? it's very annoying.

  • wunderbarwunderbar Registered User regular
    there's a stub app called "get office." Uninstall that.

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  • StormwatcherStormwatcher Blegh BlughRegistered User regular
    or just get Office!
    :D

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