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USA Presidential Election 2016: Screams from My Father

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    TossrockTossrock too weird to live too rare to dieRegistered User regular
    Man, I saw the video of the shooter, and that guy looks military. This is gonna be an even more fucked up story tomorrow.

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    JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    Reports coming in that the suspect involved in the standoff at the garage is dead.

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    WeaverWeaver Who are you? What do you want?Registered User regular
    edited July 2016
    I've been saying it for years, people should not be able to go out and put together the same kit I was issued with to fight in a war. Shit at this point I just want to post the opening to Lethal Weapon 3 but obviously some people identify with the wrong side of that scene.

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    DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    Weaver wrote: »
    I've been saying it for years, people should not be able to go out and put together the same kit I was issued with to fight in a war. Shit at this point I just want to post the opening to Lethal Weapon 3 but obviously some people identify with the wrong side of that scene.

    I'm too old for this shit?

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    JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    Sweeps are done and no explosives were found.

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    Darth WaiterDarth Waiter Elrond Hubbard Mordor XenuRegistered User regular
    Juggernut wrote: »
    Sweeps are done and no explosives were found.

    There's small comfort in that but I'll take it.

    @Speed Racer @Devlin_Dragonus are both of you doing ok this morning? Any other Dallas area forumers awake yet? I feel like we need a roll call or something.

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    Juggernut wrote: »
    Sweeps are done and no explosives were found.

    There's small comfort in that but I'll take it.

    @Speed Racer @Devlin_Dragonus are both of you doing ok this morning? Any other Dallas area forumers awake yet? I feel like we need a roll call or something.

    I just woke up, catching up on news myself

    I don't live anywhere near where this happened so I'm not super worried about my own safety wrt this

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    TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular
    edited July 2016
    I opened my facebook and now I want to scream. I think today is a good day for me to ignore facebook.

    The hot takes and memes are too much right now.

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    Darth WaiterDarth Waiter Elrond Hubbard Mordor XenuRegistered User regular
    Found out this morning that a close friend of mine was at the protest; as soon as the shots started, he managed to get himself and a few others to the apartment of yet another friend. Glad they're safe; I'm going to give him the biggest hug when I see him again.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    You know it was sad that at the time of the Orlando shooting someone said that "this shooting won't be the one people remember we are do for at least 2 to 3 more before election day" and they weren't wrong.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    BillyIdleBillyIdle What does "katana" mean? It means "Japanese sword."Registered User regular
    This fucking sucks, and all I can think about is if there's going to be another act of gun violence today since it seems to never stop.

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    Panda4YouPanda4You Registered User regular
    BillyIdle wrote: »
    This fucking sucks, and all I can think about is if there's going to be another act of gun violence today since it seems to never stop.
    With the kind of gun saturation there is in the US, it won't.

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    ZoelZoel I suppose... I'd put it on Registered User regular
    "People shouldn't play politics with this." - Ben Carson

    Hey Ben, what the FUCK do you think the point of politics is? Is it not to address structural wtf problems that we encounter as a political culture. Do you think this shit is a game to begin with?

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    ToxTox I kill threads he/himRegistered User regular
    edited July 2016
    "People shouldn't play politics with this." — a politician talking about an issue they don't want to fix

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Zoel wrote: »
    "People shouldn't play politics with this." - Ben Carson

    Hey Ben, what the FUCK do you think the point of politics is? Is it not to address structural wtf problems that we encounter as a political culture. Do you think this shit is a game to begin with?

    Look lets not rush to some pretty easily made and have been repeatedly ignored conclusions.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    NyysjanNyysjan FinlandRegistered User regular
    people are kind of incredibly wary of "But she's not TRUMP!" as an argument, considering how poorly it went for everyone else it's been said for
    Getting back to this for a moment.
    One of the reasons people go to the "Atleast she's not Trump", is that Hillary has been running with quite liberal and progressive platform, largely separated from Bernie's only inthat it is nuanced, more reasoned, and maybe even acchievable.

    So, given that she is already running as a liberal progressive, and those who complain about her seem to have decided that she is clearly lying and just waiting to invade Iran the second she is nominated (hyperbole, but not as much as i'd like).
    What argument do you go for?
    Her platform is of limits, her history is not immaculately white (and neither is Bernie's, but that seems to get lost a lot), and she's made mistakes (and is never, ever, forgiven for any of them).
    She may not be perfect, people may have decided that anything in her platform is a lie.
    But dammit, she's not Trump.

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    DisruptedCapitalistDisruptedCapitalist I swear! Registered User regular
    edited July 2016
    Olivaw wrote: »
    -Tal wrote: »
    I'd have to go for il duce since he was slightly less racist

    And I mean

    He did make those trains run on time

    FWIW, he actually didn't make the trains run on time. It was all fascist propaganda: most of the improvements to the Italian railway took place before Mussolini took power, he just took credit for it. (Sound familiar?)

    http://www.snopes.com/history/govern/trains.asp

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    A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    I think I'll just fill my day down here in the comms room with some good ol' internal screaming.

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular


    because i won't immediately assume that the dallas shooters were BLM terrorists

    OHHHH BUT YOU'LL ASSUME THAT COP REALLY DID KILL THAT MAN EVEN THOUGH WE HAVEN'T HEARD HIS SIDE OF THE STORY YET

    yeah i'm inclined to believe he did wrong because there is a pattern of white police shooting black men in this country

    I DON'T BELIEVE THAT

    well that doesn't matter very much because it's true regardless of what you believe

    POLICE SHOOT WHITE PEOPLE AND HISPANIC PEOPLE AND ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE TOO IT'S NOT A RACE THING

    not in even close to the same numbers

    WHAT IF THE POLICE ASKED HIM TO GET OUT OF THE CAR AND HE DIDN'T AND JUST NOT EVEN THINKING KEPT REACHING FOR HIS REGISTRATION HOW IS THE COP SUPPOSED TO KNOW HE WASN'T GOING FOR HIS GUN

    well now you're the one making things up

    OH SO YOU GET TO DO IT BUT I CAN'T?? I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW I RAISED SUCH A LIBERAL SON YOU DON'T BELIEVE ANY OF THE SAME THINGS I DO

    sure i do i believe in jesus and i believe that my first job is to love others

    IT WOULD BE NICE IF YOU BELIEVED THAT BUT I KNOW YOU DON'T GIVEN SOME OF THE OTHER SHIT YOU BELIEVE

    yeah you're right i believe that "loving others" involves loving non-cishet people, ya got me

    UGH WHATEVER YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T WANT TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION SO JUST GO

    you got me there, i'm not particularly interested in racist tirades interspersed with unwarranted assaults on my religious beliefs

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    ZoelZoel I suppose... I'd put it on Registered User regular
    edited July 2016
    I'm not really scared to walk into a federal building today. but

    Concerned is an appropriate word I guess.

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    GatorGator An alligator in Scotland Registered User regular
    edited July 2016

    Zoel wrote: »
    "People shouldn't play politics with this." - Ben Carson

    Hey Ben, what the FUCK do you think the point of politics is?

    To store grain in the Pyramids, duh

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    JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
    The suspect said he was upset about Black Lives Matter. He said he was upset about the recent police shootings. The suspect said he was upset at white people the suspect said he wanted to kill white people, especially white officers.

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    Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    So apparently the officer who shot the man in Falcon Heights, MN had some sort of voice recording system on him and he's recorded saying the reason he pulls the guy over ISN'T for a taillight, he says" He looks like a robbery suspect because of the wide-set nose" and that as soon as the officer is told he had a concealed weapon he was instantly shot.

    Has anyone heard stuff about this?

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    JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    So apparently the officer who shot the man in Falcon Heights, MN had some sort of voice recording system on him and he's recorded saying the reason he pulls the guy over ISN'T for a taillight, he says" He looks like a robbery suspect because of the wide-set nose" and that as soon as the officer is told he had a concealed weapon he was instantly shot.

    Has anyone heard stuff about this?

    You can hear it here: http://www.kare11.com/news/police-scanner-audio-1/267042738

    Not confirmed by police yet, but the license plate matches

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I mean, it sucks that you had that convo speed, I just don't know why you pimped your Twitter at the start of the post though

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    I mean, it sucks that you had that convo speed, I just don't know why you pimped your Twitter at the start of the post though

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    JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
    Pimp My Twitter, MTV's latest reality show

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    JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
    Donald Trump actually put out a decent statement, though this is a bit much coming from him:
    Our nation has become too divided. Too many Americans feel like they’ve lost hope. Crime is harming too many citizens. Racial tensions have gotten worse, not better. This isn’t the American Dream we all want for our children.

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    that is a decent if excessively platitudinous thing to say by a dude who has no right to say it whatsoever

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    JoeUser wrote: »
    Donald Trump actually put out a decent statement, though this is a bit much coming from him:
    Our nation has become too divided. Too many Americans feel like they’ve lost hope. Crime is harming too many citizens. Racial tensions have gotten worse, not better. This isn’t the American Dream we all want for our children.
    You can tell Trump didn't write it, because it didn't use his cadence.

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    JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
    House in lockdown
    The House of Representatives is in lockdown, under unclear circumstances, according to reports from Capitol Hill. A reporter for Congressional Quarterly tweeted that she’s locked in the House chamber.

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    WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    DPD chief says that one of the suspects was injured when police sent a robot with a bomb attached into the area where he was hiding from officers

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    DPD chief says that one of the suspects was injured when police sent a robot with a bomb attached into the area where he was hiding from officers

    Wait, what?

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    WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    edited July 2016
    DPD chief says that one of the suspects was injured when police sent a robot with a bomb attached into the area where he was hiding from officers

    Wait, what?

    Link to the video.

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    Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    JoeUser wrote: »
    Donald Trump actually put out a decent statement, though this is a bit much coming from him:
    Our nation has become too divided. Too many Americans feel like they’ve lost hope. Crime is harming too many citizens. Racial tensions have gotten worse, not better. This isn’t the American Dream we all want for our children.

    he also just said that North Carolina is doing the right thing with their hideous anti LGBT law after saying he was the better candidate for the LGBT community than Clinton.

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    Darth WaiterDarth Waiter Elrond Hubbard Mordor XenuRegistered User regular
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    JoeUser wrote: »
    Donald Trump actually put out a decent statement, though this is a bit much coming from him:
    Our nation has become too divided. Too many Americans feel like they’ve lost hope. Crime is harming too many citizens. Racial tensions have gotten worse, not better. This isn’t the American Dream we all want for our children.

    he also just said that North Carolina is doing the right thing with their hideous anti LGBT law after saying he was the better candidate for the LGBT community than Clinton.

    Ok, that definitely sounds like Trump.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2016
    DPD chief says that one of the suspects was injured when police sent a robot with a bomb attached into the area where he was hiding from officers

    Wait, what?

    Link to the video.

    So they used what was presumably a bomb disposal robot to plant and detonate and explosive devise after exchanging gunfire with the suspect and after talks with the hostage negotiator (there were no hostages, they just used one for this) did not yield a peaceful outcome

    I don't think I have ever heard of the police using an explosive like that, and it's a little scary that they did..lout it is also expected and understandable given the situation and the tools they apparently had at their disposal.


    Oh, and the suspect told the negotiator that he was not affiliated with any group and that he wanted to kill white people and white officers especially. Though I agree with the police representative that trying to get into the head of this guy is not a useful endeavor.

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    NarbusNarbus Registered User regular
    JoeUser wrote: »
    Donald Trump actually put out a decent statement, though this is a bit much coming from him:
    Our nation has become too divided. Too many Americans feel like they’ve lost hope. Crime is harming too many citizens. Racial tensions have gotten worse, not better. This isn’t the American Dream we all want for our children.

    "Which is why I'm going to tank the economy, incite as much violence as I can without legal culpability, spit racism as often as possible, and refuse to acknowledge even a single consequence for any of it."

    I assume he hit the 140 character limit before he got to that last part.

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    jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    JoeUser wrote: »
    House in lockdown
    The House of Representatives is in lockdown, under unclear circumstances, according to reports from Capitol Hill. A reporter for Congressional Quarterly tweeted that she’s locked in the House chamber.

    They've lifted the lockdown. All I'm seeing reported is that someone "tried to enter the building with a gun."

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    Death of RatsDeath of Rats Registered User regular
    Good to hear the lockdown is over.

    Unfortunately the first thing to enter my mind when hearing about it was this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2FDPgvm2l0

    Guess my brain is trying to handle all the negative fucked up shit happening by making light of everything in the stupidest way possible. I mean, seriously, can we go more than 1 or 2 hours without some fucked up murder or mass shooting or bomb threat or unarmed minority being shot by a cop or abortion rights being attacked or LGBT rights/protections being threatened?

    No I don't.
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