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Truck Attack in France Kills 70+

BurnageBurnage Registered User regular
So this is fucking awful:
A lorry has struck a crowd during Bastille Day celebrations in the southern French city of Nice, killing about 60 people, officials are quoted as saying by local media.

The incident took place on the famous Promenade des Anglais during a firework display.

One image on Twitter showed about a dozen people lying on the street.

The local prefecture has urged people in the area to remain indoors, calling the incident "an attack".

Nice Mayor Christian Estrosi said that "a lorry driver appears to have killed dozens of people".

Sebastien Humbert, the prefect of the Alpes-Maritimes region, told France's BFM TV that the lorry driver had been shot dead.

French media later quoted Nice prosecutors as saying that about 60 people were dead.

Prosecutor Jean-Michel Pretre said the lorry drove two kilometres (1.2 miles) through a large crowd, the AFP news agency reports.

This is bad enough by itself, but coming so soon after the attacks in November is doubly horrifying.

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  • Desktop HippieDesktop Hippie Registered User regular
    I am sick to the pit of my stomach of people being slaughtered in horrible ways.

  • Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    edited July 2016
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/bastille-day-crash-live-updates-8424850

    Another ticker link.
    Weapons found in truck.

    Death count keeps climbing :(

    Has video if you are into that kind of thing.

    No link to terror network yet.

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  • SixSix Caches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhex Registered User regular
    edited July 2016
    The worst part is that I feel like I'm becoming numb to these things and it makes me feel more terrible than I already do.

    Edit: that's clearly not the worst part, for me or anyone. It's just another shitty part.

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  • VishNubVishNub Registered User regular
    What the fuck, world.

  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    I'm seeing an awful lot of strollers in these "fleeing the scene" shots.

    Godfuckingdammit.

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  • SteevSteev What can I do for you? Registered User regular
    Really sick of this shit.

  • DracomicronDracomicron Registered User regular
    It feels like Everyone is just losing their shit, collectively.

  • JazzJazz Registered User regular
    So horrific. :(

  • Wraith260Wraith260 Happiest Goomba! Registered User regular
    France was due to end its state of emergency from the last attack on the 26th. Hollande had made a statement just today that he would not extend it beyond that date. :(

    as i said in the Brit politics thread, this would be tragic on its own but as yet another addition to the list of attacks that the French have endure recently its especially heartbreaking.

  • RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    The morbid thing for me is that this could be a repeat of the 26th or a repeat of the Akihabara massacre. Sure there's certain probabilities given the state of the world, but the fact that such a precedent exists in the world makes it so much worse.

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  • StollsStolls Brave Corporate Logo Chicago, ILRegistered User regular
    Christ.

    I fly to London in a couple days to meet my folks, sister, and brother-in-law, who are all in Paris now. Just got a text from them checking in, but one of my first thoughts - thankfully they're in Paris - made me angry and disgusted in a way I haven't been in years; with myself, with the world, with everything. "Thankfully." That's what it comes down to. "Thankfully" it was someone else's family; dozens of someone else's. "Thankfully" it was some other Bastille Day celebration.

    Thank-fucking-fully.

    I'm reaching for words and they're just not there. What a goddamned mess.

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  • Desktop HippieDesktop Hippie Registered User regular
    BBC have their live update page up. They tend to skip the gore and not report stuff until they can verify it, so it's one of the better news sources out there.

  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Central OhioRegistered User regular
    God.

    Fucking.

    DAMNIT!

    What is wrong with the world?????

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  • VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    I'm seeing an awful lot of strollers in these "fleeing the scene" shots.

    Godfuckingdammit.

    It happened right after a fireworks performance celebrating Bastille Day (French Independence Day) as the crowd was walking away.

    Description of a video of the event, for those that want to know without watching the video but spoilered for those that don't want to read it.
    There's a video out there showing the truck slowing down as it approached the crowd, and then speeding up into it.

  • JazzJazz Registered User regular
    Stolls wrote: »
    Christ.

    I fly to London in a couple days to meet my folks, sister, and brother-in-law, who are all in Paris now. Just got a text from them checking in, but one of my first thoughts - thankfully they're in Paris - made me angry and disgusted in a way I haven't been in years; with myself, with the world, with everything. "Thankfully." That's what it comes down to. "Thankfully" it was someone else's family; dozens of someone else's. "Thankfully" it was some other Bastille Day celebration.

    Thank-fucking-fully.

    I'm reaching for words and they're just not there. What a goddamned mess.

    Hugs, dude. I understand what you mean, I think we all do.

    As much as we're all shocked and horrified, and with how much all our hearts go out to the victims and their families - I'm so, so glad your family is safe and well.

    Much love to you and your family. <3

  • dispatch.odispatch.o Registered User regular
    Great. Someone finally figured out cars are weapons.


    Fuck!

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  • Desktop HippieDesktop Hippie Registered User regular
    Veevee wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    I'm seeing an awful lot of strollers in these "fleeing the scene" shots.

    Godfuckingdammit.

    It happened right after a fireworks performance celebrating Bastille Day (French Independence Day) as the crowd was walking away.

    Description of a video of the event, for those that want to know without watching the video but spoilered for those that don't want to read it.
    There's a video out there showing the truck slowing down as it approached the crowd, and then speeding up into it.

    in the video you can actually see
    the police are trying to stop the truck reaching the crowds. One officer even catches up to it on his motorcycle, shoots at the truck cab and eventually jumps onto the side of the truck itself. Unfortunately it's right about then that the driver picks up speed and ploughs through the police barriers.

  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    God dammit

  • negusnegus Registered User regular
    Look for the helpers.

  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    My parents are in Lyon, so there was a moment for me there.

  • dispatch.odispatch.o Registered User regular
    edited July 2016
    Reading on yahoo news that he had opened fire on the crowd and grenades and weapons were found in the truck.

    Reuters on news.yahoo.com
    The man had opened fire on the crowd, local government chief Christian Estrosi told BFM TV, and weapons and grenades were found inside the truck after he was killed.

    “It’s a scene of horror,” local member of parliament Eric Ciotti told France Info, saying the truck had sped along the pavement fronting the Mediterranean, before being stopped by police after “mowing down several hundred people”.

    Fuck!

    Edit: Having grenades seems like a big deal. I'm concerned there is more that was planned.

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  • SteevSteev What can I do for you? Registered User regular
    dispatch.o wrote: »
    Reading on yahoo news that he had opened fire on the crowd and grenades and weapons were found in the truck.

    Reuters on news.yahoo.com
    The man had opened fire on the crowd, local government chief Christian Estrosi told BFM TV, and weapons and grenades were found inside the truck after he was killed.

    “It’s a scene of horror,” local member of parliament Eric Ciotti told France Info, saying the truck had sped along the pavement fronting the Mediterranean, before being stopped by police after “mowing down several hundred people”.

    Fuck!

    Yeah, as awful as this is, it sounds like it could have been a lot worse. It doesn't sound like he managed to detonate anything.

    Still, the driver apparently drove through the crowd for 2km before being stopped.

  • HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    I can't even keep track of the tragedies anymore

    I don't know whats left to to say

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  • Desktop HippieDesktop Hippie Registered User regular
    SteevL wrote: »
    dispatch.o wrote: »
    Reading on yahoo news that he had opened fire on the crowd and grenades and weapons were found in the truck.

    Reuters on news.yahoo.com
    The man had opened fire on the crowd, local government chief Christian Estrosi told BFM TV, and weapons and grenades were found inside the truck after he was killed.

    “It’s a scene of horror,” local member of parliament Eric Ciotti told France Info, saying the truck had sped along the pavement fronting the Mediterranean, before being stopped by police after “mowing down several hundred people”.

    Fuck!

    Yeah, as awful as this is, it sounds like it could have been a lot worse. It doesn't sound like he managed to detonate anything.

    Still, the driver apparently drove through the crowd for 2km before being stopped.

    He apparently "turned the wheel to hit the maximum number of people" while he was driving too, but despite the horrific death toll - 77 now - the police were on the scene, firing at him before he reached the festival, surrounded him as soon as he stopped and got many people to flee the scene before they were put in harm's way, so this could have been even worse.

  • ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    It's definitely numbing. On one hand I expect to see the usual outpourings of support.... but that's the problem, they're "the usual outpourings of support".

    It's common enough we're getting into a routine. Speeches about solidarity and consolation, landmarks lit up in the appropriate colours, etc.

    It's important, I don't want to see it stop, but it's hard not to notice that it's becoming part of how we handle these things on what feels like an awfully regular basis.

    Fuck.

    First they came for the Muslims, and we said NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKER!
  • dispatch.odispatch.o Registered User regular
    edited July 2016
    Blah blah prayers are with victims and families. Blah blah Jesus. Blah blah war on terror. Every tweet by a politician for the next 24 hours is done.

    I want some politician to react like a human fucking being full of complex emotion and adult feelings.

    Edit: I'm tired of the epic shrug and lip service that happens every two weeks when people die in unacceptable ways. I'm not trying to diminish the actual tragedy.

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  • IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited July 2016
    Forar wrote: »
    It's definitely numbing. On one hand I expect to see the usual outpourings of support.... but that's the problem, they're "the usual outpourings of support".

    It's common enough we're getting into a routine. Speeches about solidarity and consolation, landmarks lit up in the appropriate colours, etc.

    It's important, I don't want to see it stop, but it's hard not to notice that it's becoming part of how we handle these things on what feels like an awfully regular basis.

    Fuck.

    It's only going to get worse during our lifetimes. Maybe in 200+ years the slaughter will abate, but it's unlikely any of us will see that day. This has been happening for generations already, it's just now slipped outside of the parts of the world where nobody even remembers a time when it was novel.

    It's all the more reason for people to let go of petty anger a little more easily and grant kindness a little more freely so there's a little more light in the world no matter the times ahead.

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  • Desktop HippieDesktop Hippie Registered User regular
    Hollande has extended France's state of emergency for three months.

    FFS that's just a month shy of the first anniversary of the Paris attacks. What a fucking nightmare.

  • RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    edited July 2016
    In a big way, I'm not surprised someone figured out how to commit these murders with as little tech and resources as possible. It makes a sick kind of logic to make the government field as much as they can to stop their enemies while their enemies organize mass murder at the whatever the going rate for a box van is.

    edit: Caught myself wishing for the old days when these attacks were committed by the mentally unhinged fighting for or against their lizard god, rather than as part of organizations.

    Fucking A.

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  • archivistkitsunearchivistkitsune Registered User regular
    Really shitty news to hear about; especially, when you first hear about it shortly before learning that Trump is already being fucking vile and using the tragedy for his own ends.

    I hate how the immediate response from many will be to bomb everything in the ME, shit on Muslims and move closer to a police state. It's a fucking awful thing and I get people are scared, but I also think people need to get a grip as well. Bad shit happen in this world, this may or may not be worse than it ever was, but there is also a certain point where more security measures end up being harmful to a peaceful society.

    I'm also getting sick and tired, that some of the loudest voices that scream "we aren't doing enough" on the political side of things. Happen to be the same assholes that despise the ideas of diplomacy and humanitarian aid. Those also tend to be the same ass hats that are intolerant and have to prove they are tough guys, thus creating areas where the shitty ideology of assholes, has fertile ground to grow.

    Finally and sadly, I think we'll see more of this awful shit because plenty of what feeds into this, is stuff that won't be resolved quickly. It's stuff that is going to take time.

  • BurnageBurnage Registered User regular
    edit: Caught myself wishing for the old days when these attacks were committed by the mentally unhinged fighting for or against their lizard god, rather than as part of organizations.

    Do we actually have any information about who the attacker was, yet?

  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    Do we know who committed this and why yet?

  • Desktop HippieDesktop Hippie Registered User regular
    Some survivors said he was male. Other than that not seen anything, but I've been looking more at what's happening than who did it.

  • RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    The thing I really hate about these sort of things, here and abroad, is the waiting for everything to get sorted out.

    Having to ignore every news source until things have been vetted is worse than the shock of hearing its happening.

    My mom's words at hearing about this, "France can not catch a break."

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  • ArbitraryDescriptorArbitraryDescriptor Registered User regular
    shryke wrote: »
    Do we know who committed this and why yet?

    Being a good internet citizen, I went to find out and almost immediately saw a body bag with a doll next to it; immediately followed by a picture of covered objects to small to be contiguous adults.

    And so I hoped they were adults.

    So I'm done.

    "Some asshole"


    Fuuuuuuuck.

  • Emissary42Emissary42 Registered User regular
    Incenjucar wrote: »
    Forar wrote: »
    It's definitely numbing. On one hand I expect to see the usual outpourings of support.... but that's the problem, they're "the usual outpourings of support".

    It's common enough we're getting into a routine. Speeches about solidarity and consolation, landmarks lit up in the appropriate colours, etc.

    It's important, I don't want to see it stop, but it's hard not to notice that it's becoming part of how we handle these things on what feels like an awfully regular basis.

    Fuck.

    It's only going to get worse during our lifetimes. Maybe in 200+ years the slaughter will abate, but it's unlikely any of us will see that day. This has been happening for generations already, it's just now slipped outside of the parts of the world where nobody even remembers a time when it was novel.

    It's all the more reason for people to let go of petty anger a little more easily and grant kindness a little more freely so there's a little more light in the world no matter the times ahead.

    It's my great hope that none of these groups ever acquire or effectively deploy a weapon of mass destruction. The return swing from an effective use of such a weapon on a major Western or Far Eastern city would make the destruction we've seen in Iraq and Syria pale in comparison; to call it Biblical might not even fully grasp the totality of the response.

  • IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Emissary42 wrote: »
    Incenjucar wrote: »
    Forar wrote: »
    It's definitely numbing. On one hand I expect to see the usual outpourings of support.... but that's the problem, they're "the usual outpourings of support".

    It's common enough we're getting into a routine. Speeches about solidarity and consolation, landmarks lit up in the appropriate colours, etc.

    It's important, I don't want to see it stop, but it's hard not to notice that it's becoming part of how we handle these things on what feels like an awfully regular basis.

    Fuck.

    It's only going to get worse during our lifetimes. Maybe in 200+ years the slaughter will abate, but it's unlikely any of us will see that day. This has been happening for generations already, it's just now slipped outside of the parts of the world where nobody even remembers a time when it was novel.

    It's all the more reason for people to let go of petty anger a little more easily and grant kindness a little more freely so there's a little more light in the world no matter the times ahead.

    It's my great hope that none of these groups ever acquire or effectively deploy a weapon of mass destruction. The return swing from an effective use of such a weapon on a major Western or Far Eastern city would make the destruction we've seen in Iraq and Syria pale in comparison; to call it Biblical might not even fully grasp the totality of the response.

    I expect it to happen within our lifetimes, though not in the next year or two. At the moment I'm more worried about them realizing just how much of the world is a weapon. As a person with a paranoid+hostile childhood I have this habit of figuring out ways to combine different elements of my surroundings into really dangerous things and... I never voice any of them or write them down because they're incredibly actionable.

    Our world is extremely dangerous and is only seemingly safe because most of us want to live good lives.

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