I loved that he said she'd been fighting ISIS her whole life but he knew more about them.
None of that made any sense at all.
she's been fighting them her entire adult life, but she also created them with Obama just a few years ago. the fucking Zelda timeline is less convoluted that what goes on in Donalds head.
No see it's easy, the timeline split when Hillary used the Ocarina of Time to send Obama back in time to live out his childhood among the Kokiri in Kenya but in the timeline where Hillary doesn't send Obama back in time they invented ISIS together (hence the events of Terrorist Princess). But in the other timeline where Obama is sent back he travels to the land of America where a giant moon is threatening to crash down to earth and relives the same 3 days over and over of where a bloated idiot keeps telling people he was born in Kenya (the timeline of Moron's Mask)
for example, see how Trumps early statements in the debate on NAFTA and trade were considered 'strong' by the media, when in reality he's presenting a nonsensical model of how international trade works. But he spoke coherently, and forcefully (and was aided by the fact that Clinton doesnt really want to defend NAFTA and especially not TPP, since there's anti-trade factions on the Left that she doesn't particularly want to peeve) and so it gets treated as a good performance
You really need to watch video of pence talking. Like really watch some video, the media would have to like do some running man shit to make him seem good at anything.
And your concern about the media calling shit for Pence is unfounded considering again the media wanted to claim Trump didn't look like shit and shockingly the public could clearly see he did.
Yes, voters will see the debate, and if Pence puts in an awful performance, spin doesn't matter. But I seriously doubt that Pence is going to look as blatantly unprepared, incompetent and incoherent as Trump. And then it comes back to, but he's an idiot! - and maybe he'll trip up and say something blatantly incorrect and have that embarrass him. But otherwise he'll get up there and say some rehearsed lines in response to questions and subjects and then get compared to Trump and get graded as a serious statesmanly politician.
Yeah, I think that without some sort of serious, overriding event in the debate or an absolutely absurd performance, narratives written at 6 pm and spin dominate over which candidate seemed smarter.
The iPhone 7 is good! It's superior to all the alternatives. But it's not exciting - there's no whiz-bang new features.
Oh sure, it promises useful upgrades. IP67 water-resistance. A wider color gamut. Tax credits to lower the cost of education. Paid family leave. But there's no big flagship feature you can hang your hat on. It doesn't have wireless charging or democratic socialism or tuition free college. It could have been a lot better. It's disappointing that it's not.
But here's the thing - most election years, you got a choice between iPhone and Android. And while iPhone is superior to Android in every way, if someone wants to get an Android, it's a little bit understandable.
But this election year, Android isn't available. You only have two choices: one is the iPhone 7 - a good phone with good reviews. The other is an unimaginably terrible eldritch abomination: the Windows Phone.
And do you really want to be stuck with a Windows Phone for 4 years?
I loved that he said she'd been fighting ISIS her whole life but he knew more about them.
None of that made any sense at all.
she's been fighting them her entire adult life, but she also created them with Obama just a few years ago. the fucking Zelda timeline is less convoluted that what goes on in Donalds head.
No see it's easy, the timeline split when Hillary used the Ocarina of Time to send Obama back in time to live out his childhood among the Kokiri in Kenya but in the timeline where Hillary doesn't send Obama back in time they invented ISIS together (hence the events of Terrorist Princess). But in the other timeline where Obama is sent back he travels to the land of America where a giant moon is threatening to crash down to earth and relives the same 3 days over and over of where a bloated idiot keeps telling people he was born in Kenya (the timeline of Moron's Mask)
Pence as a Trump surrogate is terrible because he flat out lies/contradicts things Trump says. So on top of him having the charisma of a dish towel, he's god awful at that whole backing Trump thing.
The Democrats need to get Pence to say something sexist too, this isn't only a problem for Trump.
The iPhone 7 is good! It's superior to all the alternatives. But it's not exciting - there's no whiz-bang new features.
Oh sure, it promises useful upgrades. IP67 water-resistance. A wider color gamut. Tax credits to lower the cost of education. Paid family leave. But there's no big flagship feature you can hang your hat on. It doesn't have wireless charging or democratic socialism or tuition free college. It could have been a lot better. It's disappointing that it's not.
But here's the thing - most election years, you got a choice between iPhone and Android. And while iPhone is superior to Android in every way, if someone wants to get an Android, it's a little bit understandable.
But this election year, Android isn't available. You only have two choices: one is the iPhone 7 - a good phone with good reviews. The other is an unimaginably terrible eldritch abomination: the Windows Phone.
And do you really want to be stuck with a Windows Phone for 4 years?
really? you're going with that when the expoding Samsung Galaxy Note 7 is right there?
The iPhone 7 is good! It's superior to all the alternatives. But it's not exciting - there's no whiz-bang new features.
Oh sure, it promises useful upgrades. IP67 water-resistance. A wider color gamut. Tax credits to lower the cost of education. Paid family leave. But there's no big flagship feature you can hang your hat on. It doesn't have wireless charging or democratic socialism or tuition free college. It could have been a lot better. It's disappointing that it's not.
But here's the thing - most election years, you got a choice between iPhone and Android. And while iPhone is superior to Android in every way, if someone wants to get an Android, it's a little bit understandable.
But this election year, Android isn't available. You only have two choices: one is the iPhone 7 - a good phone with good reviews. The other is an unimaginably terrible eldritch abomination: the Windows Phone.
And do you really want to be stuck with a Windows Phone for 4 years?
really? you're going with that when the expoding Samsung Galaxy Note 7 is right there?
but the galaxy note 7 is actually a good phone when it's not exploding
Trump is like a blackberry on tracfone's network that also can explode at random
Pence as a Trump surrogate is terrible because he flat out lies/contradicts things Trump says. So on top of him having the charisma of a dish towel, he's god awful at that whole backing Trump thing.
The Democrats need to get Pence to say something sexist too, this isn't only a problem for Trump.
Literally all they need to do is tie Pence to Trump's positions and statements. Either he effectively distances himself, pissing off the Trump base, or he doesn't, making him no better than Trump in the eyes of everyone else. He might not do anything dumb, but he's also not going to be firing off one-liners and firing people up the way Biden did.
I can totally imagine an outcome in which the media calls it for Pence or at least calls it competitive, but I also don't see that having a meaningful impact on the numbers - especially once Hillary and the Donald go at it again.
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Hillary is apparently running radio ads in Eastern NC (I just heard on during sports talk radio) basically crushing Donald for treating women like shit and saying he knows more than the Generals about ISIS. Has a two-tour vet and father of three girls basically say that he has to not vote Republican because of Trump. I'll be curious how it plays in the area's heavily Republican military demographic.
more thoughts on VP debates
i don't really remember the VP debates of previous elections but i would expect these debates to be unusually about tying the other VP candidate to the top of their ticket, since the unfavorability for the top of the ticket is so high and people don't really know who Kaine or Pence are (and probably don't care).
I would sort of expect Kaine to have a slight advantage there in that Trump has worse unfavorability ratings than Clinton, and he can tie Pence to endorsing crazy things Trump has said, whereas Pence's strategy is harder because he can't really tie Kaine to Benghazi or Emails or w/e (although they'll come up). Pence's strategy will probably be to attack Kaine's history with the Clintons and then portray him as corrupt, just like Hillary (bringing up his high? acceptance of disclosed gifts, etc.). But then Kaine has obvious counterattacks (since it's a pretty weak accusation, really just meant to push a narrative) with Pence's own corruption scandal that caused the creation of a new campaign finance law, and Trump's corruption / sleeziness - the foundation stuff, the Cuba stuff, the pay for play Bondi stuff, hit him on the tax returns for likely being a tax cheat/avoider, etc. And then Kaine is probably a more charismatic speaker than Pence so that should help.
But I still don't think that amounts to a Kaine rout since I highly anticipate Pence to be graded on such a generous curve. But then if Trump is still saying crazy stuff on twitter the debate performance might not even matter that much, since the coverage might just end up focusing on Trump feuding with Machado or someone else
The iPhone 7 is good! It's superior to all the alternatives. But it's not exciting - there's no whiz-bang new features.
Oh sure, it promises useful upgrades. IP67 water-resistance. A wider color gamut. Tax credits to lower the cost of education. Paid family leave. But there's no big flagship feature you can hang your hat on. It doesn't have wireless charging or democratic socialism or tuition free college. It could have been a lot better. It's disappointing that it's not.
But here's the thing - most election years, you got a choice between iPhone and Android. And while iPhone is superior to Android in every way, if someone wants to get an Android, it's a little bit understandable.
But this election year, Android isn't available. You only have two choices: one is the iPhone 7 - a good phone with good reviews. The other is an unimaginably terrible eldritch abomination: the Windows Phone.
And do you really want to be stuck with a Windows Phone for 4 years?
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"If you divide the whole world into just enemies and friends, you'll end up destroying everything" --Nausicaa of the Valley of Wind
I loved that he said she'd been fighting ISIS her whole life but he knew more about them.
None of that made any sense at all.
she's been fighting them her entire adult life, but she also created them with Obama just a few years ago. the fucking Zelda timeline is less convoluted that what goes on in Donalds head.
No see it's easy, the timeline split when Hillary used the Ocarina of Time to send Obama back in time to live out his childhood among the Kokiri in Kenya but in the timeline where Hillary doesn't send Obama back in time they invented ISIS together (hence the events of Terrorist Princess). But in the other timeline where Obama is sent back he travels to the land of America where a giant moon is threatening to crash down to earth and relives the same 3 days over and over of where a bloated idiot keeps telling people he was born in Kenya (the timeline of Moron's Mask)
more thoughts on VP debates
i don't really remember the VP debates of previous elections but i would expect these debates to be unusually about tying the other VP candidate to the top of their ticket, since the unfavorability for the top of the ticket is so high and people don't really know who Kaine or Pence are (and probably don't care).
I would sort of expect Kaine to have a slight advantage there in that Trump has worse unfavorability ratings than Clinton, and he can tie Pence to endorsing crazy things Trump has said, whereas Pence's strategy is harder because he can't really tie Kaine to Benghazi or Emails or w/e (although they'll come up). Pence's strategy will probably be to attack Kaine's history with the Clintons and then portray him as corrupt, just like Hillary (bringing up his high? acceptance of disclosed gifts, etc.). But then Kaine has obvious counterattacks (since it's a pretty weak accusation, really just meant to push a narrative) with Pence's own corruption scandal that caused the creation of a new campaign finance law, and Trump's corruption / sleeziness - the foundation stuff, the Cuba stuff, the pay for play Bondi stuff, hit him on the tax returns for likely being a tax cheat/avoider, etc. And then Kaine is probably a more charismatic speaker than Pence so that should help.
But I still don't think that amounts to a Kaine rout since I highly anticipate Pence to be graded on such a generous curve. But then if Trump is still saying crazy stuff on twitter the debate performance might not even matter that much, since the coverage might just end up focusing on Trump feuding with Machado or someone else
Well, Kaine will take Pence for ice cream after the debate and offer to fix his scraped knee, and tell him he doesn't have to stay with the bad man if he doesn't want to. I think you're forgetting about how that will affect the polls.
The iPhone 7 is good! It's superior to all the alternatives. But it's not exciting - there's no whiz-bang new features.
Oh sure, it promises useful upgrades. IP67 water-resistance. A wider color gamut. Tax credits to lower the cost of education. Paid family leave. But there's no big flagship feature you can hang your hat on. It doesn't have wireless charging or democratic socialism or tuition free college. It could have been a lot better. It's disappointing that it's not.
But here's the thing - most election years, you got a choice between iPhone and Android. And while iPhone is superior to Android in every way, if someone wants to get an Android, it's a little bit understandable.
But this election year, Android isn't available. You only have two choices: one is the iPhone 7 - a good phone with good reviews. The other is an unimaginably terrible eldritch abomination: the Windows Phone.
And do you really want to be stuck with a Windows Phone for 4 years?
fukin' rude
(Sorry for the spam. Blame me finally coming up for air at lunch.)
I was going to say, "Hey, what about the other way around?"
Then I remembered the Note 7 and the whole analogy made perfect sense.
I'm kind of looking forward to the VP debate, if only because I like Kaine's dad-charisma and intelligence. Can't wait to see that in contrast to the empty suit that is Pence.
I'm looking forward to it because it might actually be a honest damn debate and not 90 minutes of an interrupting asshole.
As for the porn thing. Wow.
Not only is it a fuckup because he's slutshaming someone, and he's trying to do so with something she didn't even do, it is not a hard leap to jump to "So.. what.. Do all Latina women look the same to you?"
Trump could be lying or he could be delusional and think he is doing well right now because of unscirntific polls. I think he is delusional.
Again, I dont think it is either. In sales and the long con you have to claim victory at all times. Your brand is the greatest, its doing fine, you are expanding at all times. Doesn't matter if it is truth or substance, it is just what you have to do to ensure the minimum damage in terms of investor confidence.
Its why Trump is always more focused on claiming victory and winning than adjusting for the polls. His entire deal is built upon low-grade real estate investment grift applied to US politics, and while it works with the primaries somewhat on the national stage it just comes across as delusional. The internal flame war we occasionally see reported makes me thing if anything he is aware of his collapse and terrible and just is trapped in his own con.
Trump is having a meltdown on Twitter, he just recommended people go see Alicia Machado's sex tape.
It's been a day since the debate, right?
This is a very insightful reaction to see how he'd be as POTUS. If Hillary can get him spooked so easily he'd get eaten alive by the international leaders.
Putin wants him as president because he'd be able to make him bark on command and do tricks
I'm constantly amazed how OK the conservatives are with his obvious ties with Putin.
From the few I've talked to, they think Putin is scared of Trump, but would walk all over Clinton.
Lmao
So, these are the same people who have as much as foreign policy experience as Trump?
If I were Obama I'd be putting forth an executive order that the President can no longer declare war without house and senate backing (even for the limited amount of time he/she can now) and that the use of Nuclear devices has to have a majority agreement in the house and senate.
I'd publicly do that, right now. Just to drive it home. Let Hillary repeal it when she gets in office.
I.....only Congress can declare war, so I'm not sure what this accomplishes. Or am I missing something?
War Powers Act gives the president 48 hours to do whatever before consulting Congress
Wouldn't actually work. What congress does congress can undo. And what the President does the President can undo.
So if Obama exec orders that the president cannot exercise the war powers as defined by the act the next President can simply exec order the opposite.
Trump doesn't see the irony of slut shaming this woman for fairly minor sexual stuff when his own wife was a nude model?
There is an interesting article at Vox talking about speech conventions. It generally divides speech into two sections. A normative one about what words mean and what is true, and a social one about what speech is to achieve.
The article argues, fairly successfully I believe, that trump does not understand the first part of speech. All speech is a dominance game. So when he denies things that are true verifiably he isn't really talking on the issues he is simply asserting his dominance. Concerns about when and what he said as truth have no bearing on him because when and what have nothing to do with speech for him. It's all about getting what he wants at that particular moment. "Winning" the social game that is the conversation.
It explains a lot of his behavior and speech patterns.
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Doesn't work on the forums though. I clicked play on yours and it started at the begining instead of at the time stamp. I presume it has something to do with the way Vanilla inlines the video.
(Sorry for the spam. Blame me finally coming up for air at lunch.)
I was going to say, "Hey, what about the other way around?"
Then I remembered the Note 7 and the whole analogy made perfect sense.
The exact thing that makes Android superior is that you aren't stuck with one dumb manufacturer who can fuck you any way they want! I have an LG phone, it does not explode.
"If you divide the whole world into just enemies and friends, you'll end up destroying everything" --Nausicaa of the Valley of Wind
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If coal and new energy stand with their dicks tip-to-tip, you could jack them both at once! (Assuming they have the same D2F.)
i doubt it's meant to be a serious shoutout to renewables
Those aren't new sources!
We have been using those sources for some time now!
They're new to Pence.
Trump even brought up the Solyndra deal as an example of Obama being horrible. winkwinknudgenudge
No see it's easy, the timeline split when Hillary used the Ocarina of Time to send Obama back in time to live out his childhood among the Kokiri in Kenya but in the timeline where Hillary doesn't send Obama back in time they invented ISIS together (hence the events of Terrorist Princess). But in the other timeline where Obama is sent back he travels to the land of America where a giant moon is threatening to crash down to earth and relives the same 3 days over and over of where a bloated idiot keeps telling people he was born in Kenya (the timeline of Moron's Mask)
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Remember how that worked so well for Romney
and now the slogan for Fishy Joe's takes on a whole new meaning.
Yeah, I think that without some sort of serious, overriding event in the debate or an absolutely absurd performance, narratives written at 6 pm and spin dominate over which candidate seemed smarter.
The iPhone 7 is good! It's superior to all the alternatives. But it's not exciting - there's no whiz-bang new features.
Oh sure, it promises useful upgrades. IP67 water-resistance. A wider color gamut. Tax credits to lower the cost of education. Paid family leave. But there's no big flagship feature you can hang your hat on. It doesn't have wireless charging or democratic socialism or tuition free college. It could have been a lot better. It's disappointing that it's not.
But here's the thing - most election years, you got a choice between iPhone and Android. And while iPhone is superior to Android in every way, if someone wants to get an Android, it's a little bit understandable.
But this election year, Android isn't available. You only have two choices: one is the iPhone 7 - a good phone with good reviews. The other is an unimaginably terrible eldritch abomination: the Windows Phone.
And do you really want to be stuck with a Windows Phone for 4 years?
I'd love for a dem to stand their ground and point out that China simply pumped cash into their solar industry until Solyndra wasn't competetive
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The Democrats need to get Pence to say something sexist too, this isn't only a problem for Trump.
I remember that Romney is a Marine Scout sniper Mr. Rodgers.
really? you're going with that when the expoding Samsung Galaxy Note 7 is right there?
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but the galaxy note 7 is actually a good phone when it's not exploding
Trump is like a blackberry on tracfone's network that also can explode at random
Literally all they need to do is tie Pence to Trump's positions and statements. Either he effectively distances himself, pissing off the Trump base, or he doesn't, making him no better than Trump in the eyes of everyone else. He might not do anything dumb, but he's also not going to be firing off one-liners and firing people up the way Biden did.
I can totally imagine an outcome in which the media calls it for Pence or at least calls it competitive, but I also don't see that having a meaningful impact on the numbers - especially once Hillary and the Donald go at it again.
Or my agent of chaos.
Remember NC has a legacy Southern Democrat population.
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i don't really remember the VP debates of previous elections but i would expect these debates to be unusually about tying the other VP candidate to the top of their ticket, since the unfavorability for the top of the ticket is so high and people don't really know who Kaine or Pence are (and probably don't care).
I would sort of expect Kaine to have a slight advantage there in that Trump has worse unfavorability ratings than Clinton, and he can tie Pence to endorsing crazy things Trump has said, whereas Pence's strategy is harder because he can't really tie Kaine to Benghazi or Emails or w/e (although they'll come up). Pence's strategy will probably be to attack Kaine's history with the Clintons and then portray him as corrupt, just like Hillary (bringing up his high? acceptance of disclosed gifts, etc.). But then Kaine has obvious counterattacks (since it's a pretty weak accusation, really just meant to push a narrative) with Pence's own corruption scandal that caused the creation of a new campaign finance law, and Trump's corruption / sleeziness - the foundation stuff, the Cuba stuff, the pay for play Bondi stuff, hit him on the tax returns for likely being a tax cheat/avoider, etc. And then Kaine is probably a more charismatic speaker than Pence so that should help.
But I still don't think that amounts to a Kaine rout since I highly anticipate Pence to be graded on such a generous curve. But then if Trump is still saying crazy stuff on twitter the debate performance might not even matter that much, since the coverage might just end up focusing on Trump feuding with Machado or someone else
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You can't give someone a pirate ship in one game, and then take it back in the next game. It's rude.
Well, Kaine will take Pence for ice cream after the debate and offer to fix his scraped knee, and tell him he doesn't have to stay with the bad man if he doesn't want to. I think you're forgetting about how that will affect the polls.
Shit, man. Not right after lunch!
(Sorry for the spam. Blame me finally coming up for air at lunch.)
I was going to say, "Hey, what about the other way around?"
Then I remembered the Note 7 and the whole analogy made perfect sense.
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I'm looking forward to it because it might actually be a honest damn debate and not 90 minutes of an interrupting asshole.
As for the porn thing. Wow.
Not only is it a fuckup because he's slutshaming someone, and he's trying to do so with something she didn't even do, it is not a hard leap to jump to "So.. what.. Do all Latina women look the same to you?"
"Ride the Walrus" was Fishy Joe's marketing slogan from Futurama, right? To promote some Walrus-based product?
Trump could be lying or he could be delusional and think he is doing well right now because of unscientific polls. I think he is delusional.
Again, I dont think it is either. In sales and the long con you have to claim victory at all times. Your brand is the greatest, its doing fine, you are expanding at all times. Doesn't matter if it is truth or substance, it is just what you have to do to ensure the minimum damage in terms of investor confidence.
Its why Trump is always more focused on claiming victory and winning than adjusting for the polls. His entire deal is built upon low-grade real estate investment grift applied to US politics, and while it works with the primaries somewhat on the national stage it just comes across as delusional. The internal flame war we occasionally see reported makes me thing if anything he is aware of his collapse and terrible and just is trapped in his own con.
Wouldn't actually work. What congress does congress can undo. And what the President does the President can undo.
So if Obama exec orders that the president cannot exercise the war powers as defined by the act the next President can simply exec order the opposite. There is an interesting article at Vox talking about speech conventions. It generally divides speech into two sections. A normative one about what words mean and what is true, and a social one about what speech is to achieve.
The article argues, fairly successfully I believe, that trump does not understand the first part of speech. All speech is a dominance game. So when he denies things that are true verifiably he isn't really talking on the issues he is simply asserting his dominance. Concerns about when and what he said as truth have no bearing on him because when and what have nothing to do with speech for him. It's all about getting what he wants at that particular moment. "Winning" the social game that is the conversation.
It explains a lot of his behavior and speech patterns.
There is no doubt in my mind that Trump believes everything he says.
He really wants to fuck his daughter doesn't he...
(Also you can go to a specific point in a YouTube video by appending #t=[minutes]m[seconds]s like this:
Doesn't work on the forums though. I clicked play on yours and it started at the begining instead of at the time stamp. I presume it has something to do with the way Vanilla inlines the video.
The exact thing that makes Android superior is that you aren't stuck with one dumb manufacturer who can fuck you any way they want! I have an LG phone, it does not explode.