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The german translation "Die letzten Jedi" uses "die Jedi" which is plural. As there is no gender or number specified in "the" looking to the language that does have those attributes helps
So, to sum it up, there are at least 2 Jedi involved, who are the last (or a hundred :P)
Just because there (allegedly) won't be any more Jedi doesn't necessarily mean there can't be any new Force practitioners who carry lightsabers but technically aren't Jedi.
Yeah, I know the EU's out and they won't bring back these guys specifically, but maybe at the end of the movie, Luke reforms the entire order and declares the "Jedi" ended, and that from that point onwards they'll be known as the "Lukies".
The german translation "Die letzten Jedi" uses "die Jedi" which is plural. As there is no gender or number specified in "the" looking to the language that does have those attributes helps
So, to sum it up, there are at least 2 Jedi involved, who are the last (or a hundred :P)
Yeah, I know the EU's out and they won't bring back these guys specifically, but maybe at the end of the movie, Luke reforms the entire order and declares the "Jedi" ended, and that from that point onwards they'll be known as the "Lukies".
The Jedi order is kind of shitty anyway, at least on its own. There needs to be some sort of middle ground between monastic self-denial and turning evil.
Actually, it doesn't even mean that they are the "last Jedi there ever will be", it could simply mean that they are the "last ones left in the universe". Similar to how at a party one might lay claim to "the last chicken wings". They are not saying there will never be more chicken wings, merely that at present, there are a finite number of chicken wings, and they are going to eat them. Or how an army could have a "last stand", or a "last operational tank", either of which could be followed by additional "stands" and "tanks" later on.
Unless any of the languages the title has been translated to makes some distinction between "last for now " vs "last ever".
Actually, it doesn't even mean that they are the "last Jedi there ever will be", it could simply mean that they are the "last ones left in the universe". Similar to how at a party one might lay claim to "the last chicken wings". They are not saying there will never be more chicken wings, merely that at present, there are a finite number of chicken wings, and they are going to eat them. Or how an army could have a "last stand", or a "last operational tank", either of which could be followed by additional "stands" and "tanks" later on.
Unless any of the languages the title has been translated to makes some distinction between "last for now " vs "last ever".
It's still different. In the chicken wing scenario it's an assumption that you are saying the last chicken wings here. But saying that isn't necessary as it would not be needed for clarity. I think?
Like it would be really weird to say "we're the last humans" while referencing all humans on the planet that are still reproducing.
Maybe it's supposed to be a verb. Like: "What are they doing?" "Oh, they just be jediing."
Or it refers to the worst graduate of a class. Or the slowest in a race.
And about the "Last" dichtinomy: In "Return of the Jedi" it was kinda implied that there were none, and then they came back. So technically the "Last Jedi" would be the last before new ones come back.
But perhaps not. Because the term "Jedi" references members of an order, and if that order or at least the philosophy ceases to exist...I mean is Luke a real Jedi? He was never approoved by the council (yes he was trained by Yoda....for a while and Obi Wans Ghost) but he is no formal Jedi, so even training Rey would not make her a Jedi...
And, seeing some scenes from the original Trilogy: Luke is not the foremost example of Jeid behaviour either)
This strip bugs me a little because it feels forced to fit the format. If anything, Gabe has been shown to be the bigger SW fanboy and is surely familiar with the proper plural and usage of "Jedi".
Yeah, I know the EU's out and they won't bring back these guys specifically, but maybe at the end of the movie, Luke reforms the entire order and declares the "Jedi" ended, and that from that point onwards they'll be known as the "Lukies".
The Jedi order is kind of shitty anyway, at least on its own. There needs to be some sort of middle ground between monastic self-denial and turning evil.
Yeah, I know the EU's out and they won't bring back these guys specifically, but maybe at the end of the movie, Luke reforms the entire order and declares the "Jedi" ended, and that from that point onwards they'll be known as the "Lukies".
The Jedi order is kind of shitty anyway, at least on its own. There needs to be some sort of middle ground between monastic self-denial and turning evil.
I agree that the Jedi order has its problems, particularly during the Republic with their ill-defined level of authority, but...
In a setting where emotions (or passionless focus) can grant phenomenal cosmic power, detachment seems like a pretty good idea. Like, people knock the Space Marines for being all chaste and stuff, but when sleeping around makes evil sex gods show up, it may not be a bad idea to keep it in your pants. In your power armor. What were we talking about?
Would be funny if all the force users got together, probably have to kill Snoke, and then agree that the whole Jedi/Sith thing is just stupid and disband everything.
I liked how some of the video games, KOTOR and Jedi Knight for example, gave you a lot of gray area between Jedi and Sith.
The Jedi order is kind of shitty anyway, at least on its own. There needs to be some sort of middle ground between monastic self-denial and turning evil.
The Jedi order is kind of shitty anyway, at least on its own. There needs to be some sort of middle ground between monastic self-denial and turning evil.
Google "Gray jedi"
I don't get your point. I had already assumed that fan fiction was out there.
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The german translation "Die letzten Jedi" uses "die Jedi" which is plural. As there is no gender or number specified in "the" looking to the language that does have those attributes helps
So, to sum it up, there are at least 2 Jedi involved, who are the last (or a hundred :P)
Yes? The point is that the remaining Jedi will be it and there would be no more Jedi.
That's literally what the title is saying.
Yeah, I know the EU's out and they won't bring back these guys specifically, but maybe at the end of the movie, Luke reforms the entire order and declares the "Jedi" ended, and that from that point onwards they'll be known as the "Lukies".
So it could be a whole bag of Jedi M&Ms?
The Jedi order is kind of shitty anyway, at least on its own. There needs to be some sort of middle ground between monastic self-denial and turning evil.
Unless any of the languages the title has been translated to makes some distinction between "last for now " vs "last ever".
I don't feel like this is all that mysterious.
It's still different. In the chicken wing scenario it's an assumption that you are saying the last chicken wings here. But saying that isn't necessary as it would not be needed for clarity. I think?
Like it would be really weird to say "we're the last humans" while referencing all humans on the planet that are still reproducing.
Or it refers to the worst graduate of a class. Or the slowest in a race.
Yes that could very well be.
And about the "Last" dichtinomy: In "Return of the Jedi" it was kinda implied that there were none, and then they came back. So technically the "Last Jedi" would be the last before new ones come back.
But perhaps not. Because the term "Jedi" references members of an order, and if that order or at least the philosophy ceases to exist...I mean is Luke a real Jedi? He was never approoved by the council (yes he was trained by Yoda....for a while and Obi Wans Ghost) but he is no formal Jedi, so even training Rey would not make her a Jedi...
And, seeing some scenes from the original Trilogy: Luke is not the foremost example of Jeid behaviour either)
There was and his name was Kyle Katarn
I miss him so
I feel like that if there were any plans to kill off Luke, those probably changed when Carrie Fisher died.
I agree that the Jedi order has its problems, particularly during the Republic with their ill-defined level of authority, but...
In a setting where emotions (or passionless focus) can grant phenomenal cosmic power, detachment seems like a pretty good idea. Like, people knock the Space Marines for being all chaste and stuff, but when sleeping around makes evil sex gods show up, it may not be a bad idea to keep it in your pants. In your power armor. What were we talking about?
I liked how some of the video games, KOTOR and Jedi Knight for example, gave you a lot of gray area between Jedi and Sith.
I don't get your point. I had already assumed that fan fiction was out there.
Out, wait. I think I missed a letter.
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