Secret wars has the weird problem of the buildup being so goddamn good that the event itself kinda doesn't live up to the hype (also I wish a bit more time had been spent on the final incursion)
Still really good though, and sticks the landing which marvel's events often struggle with
hold your head high soldier, it ain't over yet
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
i feel like marvel is trying to solve all of their problems with marketing rather than, like, writing and drawing comic books
there's no sense here that any of the actual books are going to be different than they were before in any substantial way. they're just dicking about with their branding
don't let marketing guys run your company, is what i'm saying here
Homecoming is getting good reception so far, but the best thing is that apparently Tony's role is not as prominent as the trailers have made it out to be.
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That's seems a bit on the nose for playing to the fanbase.
Let's take the suit worn by a prominent African-american character (he's in the movies!) and put a white dude who murders poor people into it.
Great fucking idea.
I was thinking more like literally putting Frank in a suit whose design and very name typify over-the-top military power of the kind that's adored and upheld by many of the adherents of The Punisher logo, if not his comics.
A co-worker and I were talking today, and we agreed that "IT'S CLOBBERIN TIME" is the best superhero catchphrase
Like, there isn't a better one, right
If Namor had any kind of penetration into public awareness, I'd go around shouting Imperius Rex all the damn time. Somebody holds the elevator for me for an extra five seconds? I take a second donut from the breakfast tray at work? I trip on the sidewalk but manage to somehow not look like a complete schmuck in the recovery motion? That's all enough to proclaim myself KING KING THE DOUBLE-KING, I WAS ACCIDENTALLY CORONATED TWICE AND BECAME TWO KINGS.
I wish and hope and dream of Namor becoming a very publicly known entity.
Like, when I explain my top three comic book characters folks know who Dr. Doom & Lex Luthor are, but they have never heard of Namor.
Which leads to me trying to pitch Namor as quickly as I can, which sounds something like, "He's Marvel's version of Aquaman but he's 100% an asshole and he doesn't take any shit from fucking anybody and he's always trying to get Susan Storm to cheat on Mr. Fantastic with him. He is the best."
Just...
Maybe I should just carry around this picture with me?
There are loads of Punisher stories with him killing gang members and drug dealers, often with racist undertones
One where Frank's killing black gang members and tells one that he's holding the gun wrong for holding it sideways and that the "sights are on top for a reason" before shooting him in the head comes to mind
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Eh, most stories I've read with him has him targeting mobsters and such.
But I admit I haven't read that much Punisher.
Mobsters in the Marvel universe aren't exactly operating like Dick Tracy villains.
They have hired goons/thugs on the bottom rung of their organization, and those dudes are very likely there because they financially/economically can't find work otherwise.
Aquaman has been in multiple TV shows and video games, and is going to be in a movie soon. People not knowing who Namor is is on Marvel for never trying to put him in anything
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The Punisher is a very fraught character, though it kind of isn't his fault
It's important i think to remember that he started his life as a Spider-Man villain with a sympathetic backstory
Any time a writer forgets that Frank isn't a hero that writer is pushing forward (with or without intention) the idea that you can solve crime by piling up enough bodies, and that's a bit of a problem.
It's also an unfortunately common opinion, and his popularity is pretty troubling sometimes
Its so sad, its such a sad one-issue of Captain America.
Spoilers
So Steve never gets frozen and returns to America a war hero after Bucky & him capture Hitler. And what follows is just the 20th century shitting on dear ol' Steve Rogers. He has to endure the McCarthy hearings except they're about mutants this time instead of communists. Senator McCarthy has him at a hearing and is just screaming at Steve to give over secrets about Toro and Steve retires from being a superhero instead of turning on his war-time buddy. Steve then joins NASA and becomes the first man to walk on the moon, but when he makes that historic first step he says, "That's one small step for man, one giant leap for man and mutantkind" Yeah... America doesn't take that too well and he gets yelled at for it. Later on Magneto has been rising as a global figure and Steve comes out against him, warning the world at a press conference that he's exactly like Hitler. So the United States government fires Steve and Sharon leaves him. Cut ahead to Steve as an old man and he takes a walk around New York and a bunch of young, street punk mutants mock him. And Steve puts up his old fists and the mutants just laugh in his face.
END OF STORY
Oh yeah, at one point Bucky dies in a Special Ops mission and Steve isn't allowed to attend his funeral because the government/military hates him.
Its so sad, its such a sad one-issue of Captain America.
Spoilers
So Steve never gets frozen and returns to America a war hero after Bucky & him capture Hitler. And what follows is just the 20th century shitting on dear ol' Steve Rogers. He has to endure the McCarthy hearings except they're about mutants this time instead of communists. Senator McCarthy has him at a hearing and is just screaming at Steve to give over secrets about Toro and Steve retires from being a superhero instead of turning on his war-time buddy. Steve then joins NASA and becomes the first man to walk on the moon, but when he makes that historic first step he says, "That's one small step for man, one giant leap for man and mutantkind" Yeah... America doesn't take that too well and he gets yelled at for it. Later on Magneto has been rising as a global figure and Steve comes out against him, warning the world at a press conference that he's exactly like Hitler. So the United States government fires Steve and Sharon leaves him. Cut ahead to Steve as an old man and he takes a walk around New York and a bunch of young, street punk mutants mock him. And Steve puts up his old fists and the mutants just laugh in his face.
END OF STORY
Oh yeah, at one point Bucky dies in a Special Ops mission and Steve isn't allowed to attend his funeral because the government/military hates him.
Huh
That story is very "but maybe the oppressed are the oppressors after all" themed
I mean... yeah, duh, in this case. But...
Hmm...
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Zonugal(He/Him) The Holiday ArmadilloI'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered Userregular
Its so sad, its such a sad one-issue of Captain America.
Spoilers
So Steve never gets frozen and returns to America a war hero after Bucky & him capture Hitler. And what follows is just the 20th century shitting on dear ol' Steve Rogers. He has to endure the McCarthy hearings except they're about mutants this time instead of communists. Senator McCarthy has him at a hearing and is just screaming at Steve to give over secrets about Toro and Steve retires from being a superhero instead of turning on his war-time buddy. Steve then joins NASA and becomes the first man to walk on the moon, but when he makes that historic first step he says, "That's one small step for man, one giant leap for man and mutantkind" Yeah... America doesn't take that too well and he gets yelled at for it. Later on Magneto has been rising as a global figure and Steve comes out against him, warning the world at a press conference that he's exactly like Hitler. So the United States government fires Steve and Sharon leaves him. Cut ahead to Steve as an old man and he takes a walk around New York and a bunch of young, street punk mutants mock him. And Steve puts up his old fists and the mutants just laugh in his face.
END OF STORY
Oh yeah, at one point Bucky dies in a Special Ops mission and Steve isn't allowed to attend his funeral because the government/military hates him.
Huh
That story is very "but maybe the oppressed are the oppressors after all" themed
I mean... yeah, duh, in this case. But...
Hmm...
Magneto's whole thing is that he wants to subjugate humanity for the betterment of mutantkind. That's why he's the villain. (Well, frequently the villain)
There is a comic that keeps going around of the Punisher killing the parents of kids making child pornography in front of the kids because he sees the kids as "lost causes"
Fuck the punisher and fuck marvel for continuing to push him
There is a comic that keeps going around of the Punisher killing the parents of kids making child pornography in front of the kids because he sees the kids as "lost causes"
Fuck the punisher and fuck marvel for continuing to push him
Unless I'm remembering it wrong, he doesn't actually kill them in front of the kids
But he does comment about them being broken and probably killing them when they're grown
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Bar none the worst big relaunch/reboot/line of comics announcement I've seen in my 10+ years of following comics
Yeah, the New 52 was mostly shit, but it was at least exciting until it happened
Laura's arm is about as thick as a broomstick, yet those claws are wider than
Thing looks like he's going to eat someone
Dunno why Spider-Man's knee is up to his chest
Hulk seems to be enjoying that someone died
WTF is Odinson doing with that hammer, he's not the one using it
Still really good though, and sticks the landing which marvel's events often struggle with
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
Yeah so much this
So many books seem so directionless, which is a bad look when it's an event book
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
there's no sense here that any of the actual books are going to be different than they were before in any substantial way. they're just dicking about with their branding
don't let marketing guys run your company, is what i'm saying here
Steam
maybe casting for Janet incoming?
I was thinking more like literally putting Frank in a suit whose design and very name typify over-the-top military power of the kind that's adored and upheld by many of the adherents of The Punisher logo, if not his comics.
But yeah, that too.
He targets low-level criminals.
So he is absolutely gunning down poor folk.
Eh, most stories I've read with him has him targeting mobsters and such.
But I admit I haven't read that much Punisher.
I wish and hope and dream of Namor becoming a very publicly known entity.
Like, when I explain my top three comic book characters folks know who Dr. Doom & Lex Luthor are, but they have never heard of Namor.
Which leads to me trying to pitch Namor as quickly as I can, which sounds something like, "He's Marvel's version of Aquaman but he's 100% an asshole and he doesn't take any shit from fucking anybody and he's always trying to get Susan Storm to cheat on Mr. Fantastic with him. He is the best."
Just...
Maybe I should just carry around this picture with me?
One where Frank's killing black gang members and tells one that he's holding the gun wrong for holding it sideways and that the "sights are on top for a reason" before shooting him in the head comes to mind
Mobsters in the Marvel universe aren't exactly operating like Dick Tracy villains.
They have hired goons/thugs on the bottom rung of their organization, and those dudes are very likely there because they financially/economically can't find work otherwise.
It's important i think to remember that he started his life as a Spider-Man villain with a sympathetic backstory
Any time a writer forgets that Frank isn't a hero that writer is pushing forward (with or without intention) the idea that you can solve crime by piling up enough bodies, and that's a bit of a problem.
It's also an unfortunately common opinion, and his popularity is pretty troubling sometimes
Oh man, @Gustav you are missing out.
Its so sad, its such a sad one-issue of Captain America.
Spoilers
END OF STORY
Oh yeah, at one point Bucky dies in a Special Ops mission and Steve isn't allowed to attend his funeral because the government/military hates him.
Huh
That story is very "but maybe the oppressed are the oppressors after all" themed
I mean... yeah, duh, in this case. But...
Hmm...
@Blankzilla, how would you do it?
Magneto's whole thing is that he wants to subjugate humanity for the betterment of mutantkind. That's why he's the villain. (Well, frequently the villain)
Fuck the punisher and fuck marvel for continuing to push him
Unless I'm remembering it wrong, he doesn't actually kill them in front of the kids
But he does comment about them being broken and probably killing them when they're grown
you can't really fault marvel for writing a story in which a villain does evil things
They can't have it both ways