Hmm, I guess Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is their big November title then? Didn't expect that.
In non-spoiler terms, did Xenoblade Chronicles X have anything that tied it to the first game's narrative?
I put off finishing XCX in light of the Switch rumors, but I might try to finish before the new game is out.
It didn't.
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Honestly Nintendo sits in the same position as EA and PC Gamer for this year's E3 showing. Not for the same reasons, obviously.
If I had to pick a best showing, it's kinda tied between Ubisoft and Sony. Bethesda was alright except for the too-much-emphasis on VR for games we've already seen. Microsoft would've otherwise been alright but that $500 price point for the XBOX (and the name of the hardware going up the division's own ass) didn't do them any favors.
Not any mention of Octopath Traveller is a bit of a downer
That, Fire Emblem Switch, No More Heroes 3 and SMT V are probably late 2018 games, at the earliest. We'll probably see them during some of the upcoming Nintendo Directs.
Honestly Nintendo sits in the same position as EA and PC Gamer for this year's E3 showing. Not for the same reasons, obviously.
If I had to pick a best showing, it's kinda tied between Ubisoft and Sony. Bethesda was alright except for the too-much-emphasis on VR for games we've already seen. Microsoft would've otherwise been alright but that $500 price point for the XBOX (and the name of the hardware going up the division's own ass) didn't do them any favors.
The $500 price point was a foregone conclusion. And it will do fine.
Nintendo pulled the infamous Duke Nukem "just a title" blunder using Metroid, and Pokemon-for-Switch didn't even have a title.
Plus, that was, what, seven games or something?
Seriously let's put this in perspective before we grovel at Nintendo.
I am putting it into perspective, have you actually seen the other presentations? It wasn't exactly a high bar to hurdle.
What in that showreel was an actual surprise? Rocket League? I guess Metroid, but just letting us know you're making it screams of "We needed something else here. . ." Mario Odyssey/Yoshi is probably all the average NINTENDO user wanted to see (that and perhaps Fire Emblem) but these aren't exactly "Whoa! Outta nowhere!" games, which is exactly what people were complaining about from the SONY/MS conferences.
Nintendo pulled the infamous Duke Nukem "just a title" blunder using Metroid, and Pokemon-for-Switch didn't even have a title.
Plus, that was, what, seven games or something?
Seriously let's put this in perspective before we grovel at Nintendo.
I am putting it into perspective, have you actually seen the other presentations? It wasn't exactly a high bar to hurdle.
I did. Nintendo's showings of games were very brief. They emphasized "our core series!" which was nice, but we got a couple minutes of each and nothing was groundbreaking. That's not to say it's not good. Kirby will be neat. But it's... Kirby. It made me happy but not excited.
Meanwhile, Wolfenstein, Far Cry, Ori and the Will of the Wisps, the Spider-Man game? There was a lot of excitement to be had for those individual things at least. The biggest breath-taker Nintendo got was the Metroid logo, and most of that was because people thought some footage was incoming... and then it was just a logo and we all sat back down disappointed.
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I'm rather sad this E3 didn't have any 'and it's out now' announcements. Would've been perfect for Zelda DLC. Or Pocket Card Jockey 2.
Can we get the chemicals in. 'Cause anything's better than this.
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Honestly Nintendo sits in the same position as EA and PC Gamer for this year's E3 showing. Not for the same reasons, obviously.
If I had to pick a best showing, it's kinda tied between Ubisoft and Sony. Bethesda was alright except for the too-much-emphasis on VR for games we've already seen. Microsoft would've otherwise been alright but that $500 price point for the XBOX (and the name of the hardware going up the division's own ass) didn't do them any favors.
The $500 price point was a foregone conclusion. And it will do fine.
Not great. Just fine.
My read on it across social media was, "If it's $500 it won't be worth existing as a product."
Honestly Nintendo sits in the same position as EA and PC Gamer for this year's E3 showing. Not for the same reasons, obviously.
If I had to pick a best showing, it's kinda tied between Ubisoft and Sony. Bethesda was alright except for the too-much-emphasis on VR for games we've already seen. Microsoft would've otherwise been alright but that $500 price point for the XBOX (and the name of the hardware going up the division's own ass) didn't do them any favors.
The $500 price point was a foregone conclusion. And it will do fine.
Not great. Just fine.
That depends on your definition of fine I think. Microsoft is still a ways behind the PS4 and certainly wants to catch up. A 500 dollar console that doesn't have a ton of draw in the form of games doesn't seem like it'll do it for them.
I haven't finished watching Sony or gotten to see Nintendo yet, but Microsoft had a pretty good game showing. It's just all coming to PC. Which is great for me, not super great for the xbox itself. Ubisoft's was boring I though, but I've never been into AssCreed.
Mario being October is surprising, that's earlier than expected.
edit: Oh and Wolfenstein looks great. And that A Way Out game.
Nintendo has a great system here, but they are doing as little with it as possible. As usual. And also as usual, the few things they ARE doing are pretty damn awesome. But it's too little. They aren't diversifying at all, they aren't addressing things a sizable amount of Nintendo fans want (Virtual Console, Wii U ports, Mother 3 despite finally releasing Earthbound Zero).
I highly doubt any of this stuff is going to be revealed during Treehouse, either.
I'm really, really surprised about Mother 3. Why tease us about it for a couple of years running if they had no intentions of releasing it. At least they didn't reference it this year, but now the past two years just feel like actual mockery instead of light-ribbing-leading-to-a-reveal. If you never intended to do anything with it, why mention it? I mean, it may not even matter to a majority of Switch owners/prospective owners, but I just don't get Nintendo at all.
Honestly Nintendo sits in the same position as EA and PC Gamer for this year's E3 showing. Not for the same reasons, obviously.
If I had to pick a best showing, it's kinda tied between Ubisoft and Sony. Bethesda was alright except for the too-much-emphasis on VR for games we've already seen. Microsoft would've otherwise been alright but that $500 price point for the XBOX (and the name of the hardware going up the division's own ass) didn't do them any favors.
The $500 price point was a foregone conclusion. And it will do fine.
Not great. Just fine.
My read on it across social media was, "If it's $500 it won't be worth existing as a product."
It will sell to the same people who bought the PS4 Pro, people who are interested in 4K but don't want to deal with building a computer to do it. I admit that it is a niche market and that it is not going to magically allow Microsoft to catch up to Sony but it is still going to sell out on the first day and do just well for what it is - a premium model of existing tech.
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So who is making the new Metroid? It's not those dumbasses at Team Incompetent again is it?
it being a Prime game, i'm assuming it'll be Retro. not sure if they actually mentioned who the dev is though.
They didn't, and they're not obligated to give it back to Retro just because it uses the "Prime" title. I'm giving them the stink-eye until we get more (and GOOD) information about Metroid Prime 4 before I allow myself to get excited.
Seriously, I really hope they come up with something more inventive for MP4 then just "Samus responds to distress call, Space Pirates doing shit with Metroids again."
Maybe finally have a story take place after Fusion? I'm sure Samus doesn't want to be stuck in that goopy suit the rest of her life.
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I think the problem is that the Xbox StupidName is only going to appeal to people who use the Xbone as a primary gaming platform. If it's your secondary console and you primarily play on PC/PS4/Switch (e.g. I have a PC and an Xbone but my Xbone is basically just a Destiny box), why would you spend $500 to upgrade?
At this point people who chose between one or the other are already firmly in a camp, and the marketshare isn't going to be 100% of existing Xbone users, so...I dunno. I think it might be kind of a flop.
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Is it just me or does Odyssey seem Jak and Daxter-esque?
Looks pretty amazing though.
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Hey Nintendo.
Hey hey.
This is still a bad way of showing off your games. Especially when you have boring people that breathe into their mics and are mediocre and aimless when playing.
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So who is making the new Metroid? It's not those dumbasses at Team Incompetent again is it?
it being a Prime game, i'm assuming it'll be Retro. not sure if they actually mentioned who the dev is though.
They didn't, and they're not obligated to give it back to Retro just because it uses the "Prime" title. I'm giving them the stink-eye until we get more (and GOOD) information about Metroid Prime 4 before I allow myself to get excited.
oh i know that. i just think if it was anyone it'd be Metroid [something not-Prime]. it being a Prime title just leaves me thinking its Retro going back to the well.
Nintendo pulled the infamous Duke Nukem "just a title" blunder using Metroid, and Pokemon-for-Switch didn't even have a title.
Plus, that was, what, seven games or something?
Seriously let's put this in perspective before we grovel at Nintendo.
I am putting it into perspective, have you actually seen the other presentations? It wasn't exactly a high bar to hurdle.
I did. Nintendo's showings of games were very brief. They emphasized "our core series!" which was nice, but we got a couple minutes of each and nothing was groundbreaking. That's not to say it's not good. Kirby will be neat. But it's... Kirby. It made me happy but not excited.
Meanwhile, Wolfenstein, Far Cry, Ori and the Will of the Wisps, the Spider-Man game? There was a lot of excitement to be had for those individual things at least. The biggest breath-taker Nintendo got was the Metroid logo, and most of that was because people thought some footage was incoming... and then it was just a logo and we all sat back down disappointed.
I'm a Nintendo fan who cares very little for Kirby and Yoshi. Not to be insulting to anyone who likes them, but to me they're baby games. They have that slow pace, cute and nonthreatening presentation, and they put me right the fuck to sleep. I wasn't even sure at first if those were new games or ports of the Wii U games.
I'm just glad it wasn't as much a focus on multiplayer games as I thought it was going to be. The intro certainly set it up for that kind of disappointment. But I saw a pretty good amount of stuff I could play alone at home. So very very alone.
Man, Mario looks fantastic. Sign me right the hell up.
Nintendo can only get away with that Metroid Prime 4 logo bullshit because I'm so happy the series is no longer dead. It's probably not even a 2018 game.... hopefully this doesn't end up being a Breath of the Wild situation. I feel like Nintendo put that in there just to say "We're working on Metroid, now please stop bugging us about it, ok?"
Honestly Nintendo sits in the same position as EA and PC Gamer for this year's E3 showing. Not for the same reasons, obviously.
If I had to pick a best showing, it's kinda tied between Ubisoft and Sony. Bethesda was alright except for the too-much-emphasis on VR for games we've already seen. Microsoft would've otherwise been alright but that $500 price point for the XBOX (and the name of the hardware going up the division's own ass) didn't do them any favors.
The $500 price point was a foregone conclusion. And it will do fine.
Not great. Just fine.
My read on it across social media was, "If it's $500 it won't be worth existing as a product."
Is this the same social media that also likes to say that "This game isn't worth $60"? Value assessments like these are... worthless.
The Xbox One X is a premium Xbox One with 4k functionality and such. That's all. The Xbox One (or S, now) is the primary Xbox One. At what point have they stated any differently?
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While I'm always looking to see what cool stuff gets announced around the E3 time, in the last few years my backlog has skyrocketed. I have tons of games I haven't even opened yet. The wait is so much easier these days for me, most of the time.
Nintendo pulled the infamous Duke Nukem "just a title" blunder using Metroid, and Pokemon-for-Switch didn't even have a title.
Plus, that was, what, seven games or something?
Seriously let's put this in perspective before we grovel at Nintendo.
I am putting it into perspective, have you actually seen the other presentations? It wasn't exactly a high bar to hurdle.
What in that showreel was an actual surprise? Rocket League? I guess Metroid, but just letting us know you're making it screams of "We needed something else here. . ." Mario Odyssey/Yoshi is probably all the average NINTENDO user wanted to see (that and perhaps Fire Emblem) but these aren't exactly "Whoa! Outta nowhere!" games, which is exactly what people were complaining about from the SONY/MS conferences.
I think you're underestimating exactly how huge even a simple logo for MP4 is for fans of that series. That is a HL3/Fallout 4/Shenmue 3 level reveal for Nintendo fans. Reggie could have coughed and mumbled "Metroid" and people would still be losing their shit.
edit: maybe more on Fallout 4's level than HL3, but you get the idea.
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Really though everyone working on marketing who looked at the name Xbox X and thought "yes surely this is solid messaging" needs a stern talking to. It's just dreadful.
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Aside from EA and Sony each had a surprise game or two. What more do you want?
Edit: forgot about Shadow of the Colossus remake.
It didn't.
If I had to pick a best showing, it's kinda tied between Ubisoft and Sony. Bethesda was alright except for the too-much-emphasis on VR for games we've already seen. Microsoft would've otherwise been alright but that $500 price point for the XBOX (and the name of the hardware going up the division's own ass) didn't do them any favors.
SE may still show stuff.
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I hope they copy Other M's idea of switching perspectives.
I really don't want to play another Metroid that's entirely first person. I'd be all about third person at least.
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Devolver Digital won my first SSS score for E3. They showed up and pointed out the emperor has no clothes. Glorious shitposting.
That, Fire Emblem Switch, No More Heroes 3 and SMT V are probably late 2018 games, at the earliest. We'll probably see them during some of the upcoming Nintendo Directs.
The $500 price point was a foregone conclusion. And it will do fine.
Not great. Just fine.
What in that showreel was an actual surprise? Rocket League? I guess Metroid, but just letting us know you're making it screams of "We needed something else here. . ." Mario Odyssey/Yoshi is probably all the average NINTENDO user wanted to see (that and perhaps Fire Emblem) but these aren't exactly "Whoa! Outta nowhere!" games, which is exactly what people were complaining about from the SONY/MS conferences.
It's a poor band-aid, and I always appreciate attempts to add more character to Nintendo characters.
Just, you know, get a better writer.
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Meanwhile, Wolfenstein, Far Cry, Ori and the Will of the Wisps, the Spider-Man game? There was a lot of excitement to be had for those individual things at least. The biggest breath-taker Nintendo got was the Metroid logo, and most of that was because people thought some footage was incoming... and then it was just a logo and we all sat back down disappointed.
That depends on your definition of fine I think. Microsoft is still a ways behind the PS4 and certainly wants to catch up. A 500 dollar console that doesn't have a ton of draw in the form of games doesn't seem like it'll do it for them.
I haven't finished watching Sony or gotten to see Nintendo yet, but Microsoft had a pretty good game showing. It's just all coming to PC. Which is great for me, not super great for the xbox itself. Ubisoft's was boring I though, but I've never been into AssCreed.
Mario being October is surprising, that's earlier than expected.
edit: Oh and Wolfenstein looks great. And that A Way Out game.
it being a Prime game, i'm assuming it'll be Retro. not sure if they actually mentioned who the dev is though.
Nintendo has a great system here, but they are doing as little with it as possible. As usual. And also as usual, the few things they ARE doing are pretty damn awesome. But it's too little. They aren't diversifying at all, they aren't addressing things a sizable amount of Nintendo fans want (Virtual Console, Wii U ports, Mother 3 despite finally releasing Earthbound Zero).
I highly doubt any of this stuff is going to be revealed during Treehouse, either.
I'm really, really surprised about Mother 3. Why tease us about it for a couple of years running if they had no intentions of releasing it. At least they didn't reference it this year, but now the past two years just feel like actual mockery instead of light-ribbing-leading-to-a-reveal. If you never intended to do anything with it, why mention it? I mean, it may not even matter to a majority of Switch owners/prospective owners, but I just don't get Nintendo at all.
It will sell to the same people who bought the PS4 Pro, people who are interested in 4K but don't want to deal with building a computer to do it. I admit that it is a niche market and that it is not going to magically allow Microsoft to catch up to Sony but it is still going to sell out on the first day and do just well for what it is - a premium model of existing tech.
I missed that brief. Can you elaborate?
Maybe finally have a story take place after Fusion? I'm sure Samus doesn't want to be stuck in that goopy suit the rest of her life.
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At this point people who chose between one or the other are already firmly in a camp, and the marketshare isn't going to be 100% of existing Xbone users, so...I dunno. I think it might be kind of a flop.
okay yeah, I forgot about Devolver Digital, that was a pretty great.
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The title screen said it's being developed by Retro.
edit: Nevermind, I imagined it.
Looks pretty amazing though.
Hey hey.
This is still a bad way of showing off your games. Especially when you have boring people that breathe into their mics and are mediocre and aimless when playing.
oh i know that. i just think if it was anyone it'd be Metroid [something not-Prime]. it being a Prime title just leaves me thinking its Retro going back to the well.
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They made the game, they didn't write the story.
So...yes?
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The problems with Other M extended well past the story.
I'm a Nintendo fan who cares very little for Kirby and Yoshi. Not to be insulting to anyone who likes them, but to me they're baby games. They have that slow pace, cute and nonthreatening presentation, and they put me right the fuck to sleep. I wasn't even sure at first if those were new games or ports of the Wii U games.
I'm just glad it wasn't as much a focus on multiplayer games as I thought it was going to be. The intro certainly set it up for that kind of disappointment. But I saw a pretty good amount of stuff I could play alone at home. So very very alone.
Man, Mario looks fantastic. Sign me right the hell up.
Nintendo can only get away with that Metroid Prime 4 logo bullshit because I'm so happy the series is no longer dead. It's probably not even a 2018 game.... hopefully this doesn't end up being a Breath of the Wild situation. I feel like Nintendo put that in there just to say "We're working on Metroid, now please stop bugging us about it, ok?"
Is this the same social media that also likes to say that "This game isn't worth $60"? Value assessments like these are... worthless.
The Xbox One X is a premium Xbox One with 4k functionality and such. That's all. The Xbox One (or S, now) is the primary Xbox One. At what point have they stated any differently?
The Yoshi game looked so slow to me I started feeling sleepy just watching the trailer for it.
So they said "Yeah okay we surrender we'll do the thing that makes sense and make a proper Pokémon for Switch" and had nothing to show.
I think you're underestimating exactly how huge even a simple logo for MP4 is for fans of that series. That is a HL3/Fallout 4/Shenmue 3 level reveal for Nintendo fans. Reggie could have coughed and mumbled "Metroid" and people would still be losing their shit.
edit: maybe more on Fallout 4's level than HL3, but you get the idea.
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