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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    Larlar
    white mage seems pretty easy/simple to me already, are the other healers even simpler?

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  • KamarKamar Registered User regular
    Miqo'te
    white mage seems pretty easy/simple to me already, are the other healers even simpler?

    Nope.

  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    Larlar
    I'm pretty sure they added the bunny suits for dudes because they thought it was a joke

    either way, I think it's clear they don't realize how many people are horny for bunny bois

    like, there is a significant population of gay dudes playing cat bois right now

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    I would ask how they could not realize people want to fuck the catbois, but anything is possible.

  • StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    edited March 24
    Miqo'te
    Kamar wrote: »
    white mage seems pretty easy/simple to me already, are the other healers even simpler?

    Nope.

    Yeah, I specifically stopped leveling AST and SCH because I like the comparative simplicity of WHM.

    Which is a bit of a shame, since I do like AST's aesthetic a lot. But god do I hate dealing with cards.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Lalafell
    I haven't tried WHM since I learned Stoneskin back in the day. SCH seems relatively simple to me. Positioning the fairy is a unique bugbear, though. But I do kind of enjoy my weird position as Eos's DPS pet.

    I find myself wondering what niche would they even do with a fourth healer. WHM goes hard on raw heals and regen, SCH is ostensibly the shield healer, and AST option-selects between those two roles with each fight. Which, that makes me wonder if they have any other ideas, if the third healer is either the same niche as the first, or the same niche as the second.

    YggiDee wrote: »
    Having teenaged RPG leads is really cool until you stop being a teenager yourself. Do you remember being seventeen? You're a dumbass at seventeen! I wanna be saved by the guy who's twenty-seven. He's at least payed taxes. He knows how to do shit. He can drive.
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  • StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    Miqo'te
    Enlong wrote: »
    I haven't tried WHM since I learned Stoneskin back in the day. SCH seems relatively simple to me. Positioning the fairy is a unique bugbear, though. But I do kind of enjoy my weird position as Eos's DPS pet.

    I find myself wondering what niche would they even do with a fourth healer. WHM goes hard on raw heals and regen, SCH is ostensibly the shield healer, and AST option-selects between those two roles with each fight. Which, that makes me wonder if they have any other ideas, if the third healer is either the same niche as the first, or the same niche as the second.

    I'm not a MMO balancer (and man, it seems like a tough job), but I'd probably make the fourth healer similar to the Protection Prayers spec for the Guild Wars monk. So you've got some traditional heals in there, but it's largely about mitigating damage to targets you know are gonna take hits by either increasing their passive defenses (like block/parry rates in the case of FF14), placing a buff on them that triggers a heal as soon as they're hit, or absorbing some of the damage as health.

    You couldn't do a perfect 1:1, since combat is balanced pretty differently between GW and FF14, but I think there's enough design space there.

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  • TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    I would like to remind everyone there is a decently sized gulf between the development team and Square Enix's marketing robots.

    I would like to remind everyone of Concept Au'Ra, and Au'Ra as they exist now, and the stated reasons why.

    Although Yoshi-P at this point should have enough cache in the company to tell em to fuck off, but who the hell knows....maybe Ronzo was the compromise after large amounts of blood was spilt.

  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    Larlar
    pretty sure we're sufficiently aware of how complicated game development is

    and that we can still be REALLY disappointed by some of the decisions they make

    unless I missed someone being hyperbolic or something, in here

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  • ZayZay yes i am zay Registered User regular
    edited March 24
    Like you'll get some of the Hard Furries, but they are perfectly happy with pretty Catbois anyway and they all unanimously want bunnybois.

    hey speak for yourself, I have standards

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  • SorceSorce Registered User regular
    edited March 24
    Roegadyn
    So was it just me or did the lionbois not show any facial expressions other than vaguely angry as the default?

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  • Care Free BombCare Free Bomb Registered User regular
    Roegadyn
    Enlong wrote: »
    I haven't tried WHM since I learned Stoneskin back in the day. SCH seems relatively simple to me. Positioning the fairy is a unique bugbear, though. But I do kind of enjoy my weird position as Eos's DPS pet.

    I find myself wondering what niche would they even do with a fourth healer. WHM goes hard on raw heals and regen, SCH is ostensibly the shield healer, and AST option-selects between those two roles with each fight. Which, that makes me wonder if they have any other ideas, if the third healer is either the same niche as the first, or the same niche as the second.

    My idea for a dancer healer was instead of a caster they string together dance moves into a combo like melee dps. So, like, in order to do a big heal you need to anticipate when you'll need it so you can go through the combo tree to it.

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  • Kevin CristKevin Crist Please don't go, I'll eat you whole I love you so, I love you so I love you soRegistered User regular
    Miqo'te
    My idea was like Fistweaving in WoW. Healing procs through melee combos and OCD heals, etc.

    I wasn't interested in Bunny folk, but I do wish boy buns were an option for folks.

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  • simulacrumsimulacrum Call me Remi Registered User regular
    edited March 24
    Au Ra
    I personally have an eaiser time healing on sch than whm because of how powerful their healing ogcds are and the added healing of eos

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  • turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    Roegadyn
    I would like to remind everyone there is a decently sized gulf between the development team and Square Enix's marketing robots.

    I would like to remind everyone of Concept Au'Ra, and Au'Ra as they exist now, and the stated reasons why.

    Although Yoshi-P at this point should have enough cache in the company to tell em to fuck off, but who the hell knows....maybe Ronzo was the compromise after large amounts of blood was spilt.

    You're probably not trying to sound like a huge goose, but you sure are.

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  • SkeithSkeith Registered User regular
    Larlar
    I'll never make a serious run at SCH because I'm not a fan of the pet UI in this game (playing a hunter in WoW for like 14 years does that I guess).

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    heres how i see it being a total win situation for you
    1. stay with your wife while she dog sits. this wins husband points since she knows its out of your comfort zone
    2. have sex all over her friends house so that the next time you see her friend look at you condescendingly, you can wink back knowing you did the freaky deaky where she eats her cheerios.
  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Lalafell
    Skeith wrote: »
    I'll never make a serious run at SCH because I'm not a fan of the pet UI in this game (playing a hunter in WoW for like 14 years does that I guess).

    I just put Eos on "only do stuff other than Embrace when I tell you to" mode.

    YggiDee wrote: »
    Having teenaged RPG leads is really cool until you stop being a teenager yourself. Do you remember being seventeen? You're a dumbass at seventeen! I wanna be saved by the guy who's twenty-seven. He's at least payed taxes. He knows how to do shit. He can drive.
  • simulacrumsimulacrum Call me Remi Registered User regular
    edited March 24
    Au Ra
    You can usually place eos at the center of the arena or behind the boss and be fine

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Lalafell
    simulacrum wrote: »
    You can usually place eos at the center of the arena or behind the boss and be fine

    Unless the arena's super big and either requires lots of moevement, or encourages all the mages to sit back in Narnia just because they can.

    YggiDee wrote: »
    Having teenaged RPG leads is really cool until you stop being a teenager yourself. Do you remember being seventeen? You're a dumbass at seventeen! I wanna be saved by the guy who's twenty-seven. He's at least payed taxes. He knows how to do shit. He can drive.
  • Blackhawk1313Blackhawk1313 Registered User regular
    Larlar
    At least I have my AST... man I wanted a new healer. Good thing I like AST I suppose, going to have to stay the course for the foreseeable future.

  • turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    Roegadyn
    I hope they buff Selene. Be nice if that was an actual choice, instead of Eos just being hilariously better.

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Hyur
    turtleant wrote: »
    I hope they buff Selene. Be nice if that was an actual choice, instead of Eos just being hilariously better.

    Selene has two main things going for it if you don't need Eos's higher healing output.
    1) AoE cleanse. The only one in the game. I don't think it's particularly useful outside of a few instances though (read: Rathalos Exteme) since most removable effects are because someone goofed
    2) Haste, 50% uptime. It's only 3%, but it hits the whole party.

    In general, you can set her to autopilot and walk away. And she heals directly the same at Eos, so for keeping the tank up there's no difference. Never been sure how good the AI is at hitting her interrupt.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Lalafell
    Depending on the fight, you can swap to Selene for one phase, then swap back to Eos as the boss transitions.

    Like Alphascape 4 Normal and its DPS check section.

    YggiDee wrote: »
    Having teenaged RPG leads is really cool until you stop being a teenager yourself. Do you remember being seventeen? You're a dumbass at seventeen! I wanna be saved by the guy who's twenty-seven. He's at least payed taxes. He knows how to do shit. He can drive.
  • turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    Roegadyn
    If you math out the haste buff it's REALLY weak, is the thing. It's like 1 extra gcd or something.

    I'd like them to buff the haste significantly, and replace the silence with something more useful.

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  • TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    edited March 24
    turtleant wrote: »
    I would like to remind everyone there is a decently sized gulf between the development team and Square Enix's marketing robots.

    I would like to remind everyone of Concept Au'Ra, and Au'Ra as they exist now, and the stated reasons why.

    Although Yoshi-P at this point should have enough cache in the company to tell em to fuck off, but who the hell knows....maybe Ronzo was the compromise after large amounts of blood was spilt.

    You're probably not trying to sound like a huge goose, but you sure are.

    Yeah that’s 1000% not my intention.

    I was just trying to give some hope that maybe this was more of a marketing team decision then the Dev team since that’s what happened previously.

    It doesn’t make a shitty situation any less shitty though.

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  • simulacrumsimulacrum Call me Remi Registered User regular
    edited March 24
    Au Ra
    Selenes haste buff is only worth it at the beginning of the fight during your opener or if you're in an optimized raid environment and are parse chasing

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  • SabreMauSabreMau ネトゲしよう 판다리아Registered User regular
    Au Ra
    Hikari no Otousan is getting a theatrical adaptation.

  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. Registered User regular
    Au Ra
    Enlong wrote: »
    simulacrum wrote: »
    You can usually place eos at the center of the arena or behind the boss and be fine

    Unless the arena's super big and either requires lots of moevement, or encourages all the mages to sit back in Narnia just because they can.

    then they can die.

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  • MuzzmuzzMuzzmuzz Registered User regular
    Finally entered the Golden Saucer, and the first thing I see is a father telling his son he's selling him to work in a mine to pay off the former's gambling debts.


    .... I thought this was supposed to be a happy place..

  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. Registered User regular
    Au Ra
    i got some bad news for you about all casinos

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  • MuzzmuzzMuzzmuzz Registered User regular
    Look, I can stop playing Triple Triad whenever I want.... I just need to make back the gil I put into it.


    I actually have no idea how to play it... time to research

  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. Registered User regular
    Au Ra
    to be honest i'm not actually sure how someone could lose money at the golden saucer

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  • IlpalaIlpala Just this guy, y'know Texas booniesRegistered User regular
    Miqo'te
    Tbf, Gold Saucer has a HORRIBLE business model for a casino. Unless all that food and drink we can't buy has a horrendous markup.

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  • MuzzmuzzMuzzmuzz Registered User regular
    Didn't know Donald Trump ran a FFXIV casino.

  • IlpalaIlpala Just this guy, y'know Texas booniesRegistered User regular
    Miqo'te
    I mean I was trying not to come out and say it.

    Mostly because Manderville's a good guy.

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  • AldoAldo Hippo Hooray the swamp, always the swampRegistered User regular
    Hyur
    I imagine that everyone else gets hosed by Manderville, but the WoL gets special treatment as the literal saviour of the realm.

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  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    Larlar
    Ilpala wrote: »
    I mean I was trying not to come out and say it.

    Mostly because Manderville's a good guy.

    Post SB spoilers
    he's libertarian as hell, tho

    "CAN'T DO CHARITY NANAMO, PEOPLE ARE LAZY AND WONT DO ANYTHING IF YOU GIVE THEM FREE MONEY"

    I made a :| face for the rest of the conversation

    he has good qualities for sure, but jesus christ that moment has REALLY stuck in my mind

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  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. Registered User regular
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    capitalists will never help you only trust your fists

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  • ThatDudeOverThereThatDudeOverThere Clock King Registered User regular
    Roegadyn
    Doobh wrote: »
    Ilpala wrote: »
    I mean I was trying not to come out and say it.

    Mostly because Manderville's a good guy.

    Post SB spoilers
    he's libertarian as hell, tho

    "CAN'T DO CHARITY NANAMO, PEOPLE ARE LAZY AND WONT DO ANYTHING IF YOU GIVE THEM FREE MONEY"

    I made a :| face for the rest of the conversation

    he has good qualities for sure, but jesus christ that moment has REALLY stuck in my mind
    unless I'm misremembering, he makes clear that he personally doesn't have a problem with it, but he knows the rest of syndicate will revolt unless there's some upswing for them to invest in ala mhigo

    keeping the syndicate in check was the whole impetus for nanamo to turn to godbert for advice to begin with, he's basically the only syndicate member with any scruples, now that raubahn is out

    admittedly "this one hypercapitalist is good though" is kind of hard to swallow on its face, but the mandervilles are all cartoon characters anyway so whatevs

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  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
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    Doobh wrote: »
    Ilpala wrote: »
    I mean I was trying not to come out and say it.

    Mostly because Manderville's a good guy.

    Post SB spoilers
    he's libertarian as hell, tho

    "CAN'T DO CHARITY NANAMO, PEOPLE ARE LAZY AND WONT DO ANYTHING IF YOU GIVE THEM FREE MONEY"

    I made a :| face for the rest of the conversation

    he has good qualities for sure, but jesus christ that moment has REALLY stuck in my mind
    unless I'm misremembering, he makes clear that he personally doesn't have a problem with it, but he knows the rest of syndicate will revolt unless there's some upswing for them to invest in ala mhigo

    keeping the syndicate in check was the whole impetus for nanamo to turn to godbert for advice to begin with, he's basically the only syndicate member with any scruples, now that raubahn is out

    admittedly "this one hypercapitalist is good though" is kind of hard to swallow on its face, but the mandervilles are all cartoon characters anyway so whatevs

    that's... not what I remember reading at all

    he seems happily complicit

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