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Twilight Imperium 4e - Game 2 - Round 7: Game Over!

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    I think the answer is, Twilight Imperium doesn't care about secret information or conditional ACs.
    Rather, MrBody's Committee choice could usurp Phyphor's choices in the play order, based on information Phyphor has given. And Phyphor can't react because his card has been cancelled?

    I don't know, these rules don't make much sense.

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    Actually the committee triggers on 'Before players vote' which should be after 'After an agenda is revealed'.
    So MrBody can still do whatever with that

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  • MrBlarneyMrBlarney Registered User regular
    Yes, that's how I'm ruling it. Action cards like the Riders and Veto all happen first, and then Committee Formation can be spent afterwards, before the first votes are cast. I'll leave things open until tomorrow night for further discussion and plays before moving things forward.

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  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    I say we vote for Hacan. He's not a leader, has to waste an action taking his home system back, and Muaat gets no benefit for attacking him since it would cancel out the support for the throne note.

    If we give it to L1z1x or myself, Muaat just attacks us and instantly wins.

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Then Winnu instantly attacks Hacan and wins.

    If you give it to L1z1x, he has my ceasefire.
    But then Winnu probably attacks him and wins.
    If you give it to the Naalu, then his fighter hordes might be able to hold off Phyphor, and I'm not close to the Naalu either.

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  • KetarKetar My autocomplete is a tad agressive today.Registered User regular
    Give it to Naalu.

  • LykouraghLykouragh Registered User regular
    just remember I'm not allowed to vote

  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    fiiiiiiiine

  • MrBlarneyMrBlarney Registered User regular
    Alright, let's get to voting. @MrBody is up first, which includes the option to use and discard Committee Formation.

    Shard of the Throne (Law)
    Elect Player: The elected player gains this card and 1 victory point. A player gains this card and 1 victory point when he wins a combat against the owner of this card. Then, the previous owner of this card loses 1 victory point.

    Voting Order
    Sardakk N'orr: Up to 9 votes
    The Embers of Muaat: Up to 13 votes
    The L1z1x Mindnet: Up to 4 votes
    The Winnu: Up to 19 votes
    The Emirates of Hacan: Up to 13 votes
    The Naalu Collective: Imperial Rider - L1z1x

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  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    Throw 2 votes at Naalu

    @discrider

  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Interesting.
    Not sure how many more chances you'll have to use that committee and we need to head off Phyphor as well as me.

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Hmm.
    5 votes for Naalu
    @Ketar

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  • KetarKetar My autocomplete is a tad agressive today.Registered User regular
    Abstain

    @Phyphor

  • MrBlarneyMrBlarney Registered User regular
    Voting Status
    Sardakk N'orr: 2 votes - Naalu
    The Embers of Muaat: 5 votes - Naalu
    The L1z1x Mindnet: Abstain
    The Winnu: Up to 19 votes
    The Emirates of Hacan: Up to 13 votes
    The Naalu Collective: Imperial Rider - L1z1x

    @Phyphor to vote.

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  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    edited February 2018
    Abstain

    @jakobagger

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  • jakobaggerjakobagger LO THY DREAD EMPIRE CHAOS IS RESTORED Registered User regular
    I guess i will abstain also

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    We will give you the pride of honour at our court, if you would but give it to us.
    Embers + Noble Space Lions : The face of a new empire
    But seriously, @MrBlarney

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  • MrBlarneyMrBlarney Registered User regular
    Vote Results
    Sardakk N'orr: 2 votes - Naalu
    The Embers of Muaat: 5 votes - Naalu
    The L1z1x Mindnet: Abstain
    The Winnu: Abstain
    The Emirates of Hacan: Abstain
    The Naalu Collective: Imperial Rider - L1z1x

    Naalu receives the Shard of the Throne card. (VP 6 --> 7)
    Imperial Rider does not trigger.

    The second agenda is revealed from the deck:
    Fleet Regulations (Law)
    For: Each player cannot have more than 4 tokens in his fleet pool.
    Against: Each player places 1 command token from his reinforcements in his fleet pool.

    Voting Order
    Sardakk N'orr: Up to 7 votes
    The Embers of Muaat: Up to 8 votes
    The L1z1x Mindnet: Up to 4 votes
    The Winnu: Up to 19 votes
    The Emirates of Hacan: Up to 13 votes
    The Naalu Collective: Up to 6 votes; Speaker

    I'll give the weekend for discussion before opening up voting.

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  • LykouraghLykouragh Registered User regular
    I'm votin' for!

  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    edited February 2018
    7 Against

    MrBody on
  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Yeah...
    I reckon a For only hurts Phyphor, which might be reason enough to vote For actually.
    We may need to take MR off him at some point.

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  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    discrider wrote: »
    Yeah...
    I reckon a For only hurts Phyphor, which might be reason enough to vote For actually.
    We may need to take MR off him at some point.

    That would have been a better use of those warnsuns :(

  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    But 5 VP
    We can take no responsibility for the consequences of our power-lust
    Besides, we sent our destroyers and they will be commemorated in the hall of Heroes

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  • KetarKetar My autocomplete is a tad agressive today.Registered User regular
    Play a rider choosing Against as the outcome.

    Warfare Rider
    After an agenda is revealed: You cannot vote on this agenda. Predict aloud an outcome of this agenda. If your prediction is correct, place 1 dreadnought from your reinforcements in a system that contains 1 or more of your ships.

  • MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    Oh right, card plays.

  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Assuming that voting has started, and @MrBody 's vote is unchanged
    Vote 8 for For
    I'd prefer to weaken Phyphor than have a fleet token, and it looks like I'll get the fleet token anyway if it does go Against.

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    @Phyphor for vote

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  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    I would like to play

    Leadership Rider
    After an agenda is revealed: You cannot vote on this agenda. Predict aloud an outcome of this agenda. If your prediction is correct, gain 3 command tokens.
    FOR

    and

    Politics Rider
    After an agenda is revealed: You cannot vote on this agenda. Predict aloud an outcome of this agenda. If your prediction is correct, draw 3 action cards and gain the speaker token.
    AGAINST

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  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    MrBody wrote: »
    discrider wrote: »
    Yeah...
    I reckon a For only hurts Phyphor, which might be reason enough to vote For actually.
    We may need to take MR off him at some point.

    That would have been a better use of those warnsuns :(

    See and I'm kicking myself for not attacking his war sun instead of unexpected actioning, but I didn't expect he would draw a SO that could be completed that turn

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    I didn't draw an SO that could be completed that turn.
    I put that one back.
    I just managed to get my planned 5VP turn off after picking 8.

    In any case, unless people want to sabotage any of that junk from Phyphor, I'd strongly suggest voting For, unless we want to have to stop him getting the Imperial card through ACs.
    No Sab

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  • LykouraghLykouragh Registered User regular
    no sabs

    Ketar
  • MrBlarneyMrBlarney Registered User regular
    Sorry for the delay in hosting response. I guess, since I didn't open things up this morning, pre-voting actions were still open, so Phyphor's Rider plays will be counted as valid. I'm a bit busy right now, but I'll leave it up to the players to make calls on Sabotages before making a choice on setting votes, as you'd like.

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Need more coffee; burning a guttering smoky angry red today :(
    So 'junk' in the 'boy that's an inpenetrable wall of ACs that aren't mine' sense.

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  • KetarKetar My autocomplete is a tad agressive today.Registered User regular
    Everybody in my house has the flu, including me, so I'm just checking in occasionally when I'm less feverish and agreeing with stuff like "no sabs."

    I just got done shoveling for an hour after finally getting my kids to sleep and would like to go die now.

    Everybody who can vote should vote for if you want a chance at winning. And lykouragh probably needs to grab Imperial, so that if discrider has an action card that would prevent him from doing so MrBody still has a chance to take it.

  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    edited February 2018
    I would suggest letting me win, personally.
    ...
    Please?

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  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    discrider wrote: »
    I would suggest letting me win, personally.
    ...
    Please?

    You are at 9 and it's completely impossible for me to score a 2vp objective

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    You are at 8, and should be able to score 1 VP + extra bedore me

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  • KetarKetar My autocomplete is a tad agressive today.Registered User regular
    Phyphor wrote: »
    discrider wrote: »
    I would suggest letting me win, personally.
    ...
    Please?

    You are at 9 and it's completely impossible for me to score a 2vp objective

    You could get the 5 planets with a tech specialty pretty easily this round, actually. Especially with those extra command tokens you're about to get.

    You could also get 1 point by winning a battle against Naalu and then would need a 1 point objective or Imperial + Mec Rex.

    You could even manage the 2 point objective for 2 techs in 4 different colors if you have the action card that lets you research a tech.


    It is, of course, easier for discrider to get the 1 point he needs.

  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Whaaaat?
    Nooo....
    As we have been strategically losing all game so as to ignite a revolution, we see no need to not continue to strategically lose now.

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  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    edited February 2018
    Ketar wrote: »
    Phyphor wrote: »
    discrider wrote: »
    I would suggest letting me win, personally.
    ...
    Please?

    You are at 9 and it's completely impossible for me to score a 2vp objective

    You could get the 5 planets with a tech specialty pretty easily this round, actually. Especially with those extra command tokens you're about to get.

    You could also get 1 point by winning a battle against Naalu and then would need a 1 point objective or Imperial + Mec Rex.

    You could even manage the 2 point objective for 2 techs in 4 different colors if you have the action card that lets you research a tech.


    It is, of course, easier for discrider to get the 1 point he needs.

    I have access to 6 planets with tech specialties sure. Except one is next to your homeworld which I can't reach with any meaningful ships anyway, one is next to hacans homeworld and one is held by the player with my ceasefire

    Focused research and technology rider has already been played and in any case i would need both tech and trade goods to pull it off even if I had it

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