man. our idea to watch all of the others before this one came out has really... really... made me understand how bad the prequels are. I don't think I noticed so much because I was mostly growing up with those one when they were coming out.
But I just don't understand how lucas thought "yes this is what people say and how they react and express emotion!"
I know that's not a new thought on the internet, but I'm just now getting around to rewatching these as an adult (i don't think i've seen revenge since it was in theatres).
welp, i think i just got spoiled on a major plot point. fuck the internet.
fuck man. That is the absolute worst. I just completely avoided the internet and TV altogether for like a month to avoid being spoiled. I was spoiled on TFA and I know how shitty it is. Nowadays it's getting harder to avoid it though, what with spoilers being put in trailers and all.
I thought the movie was great. The only real negative thing was that the experience was marred by two jackasses sitting next to my girlfriend who would not shut the fuck up throughout the whole film. She tried asking them to be quiet, but they then came back a few minutes later with "Are we allowed to laugh during the film?"
If you have to ask that, then no motherfucker. How hard is it to not talk for two hours on opening night for a Star Wars Film? This is the second time for that to happen at this theater so we are never going there again. (The first being opening night for Captain America Civil War)
I saw this this morning, and I've let it stew for a bit, but I want to get my feelings out before I forget something important. Me being an uncritical mush-head, I quite liked it.
Whole-movie spoilers for The Last Jedi, obviously.
- When the Dreadnought Star Destroyer came out of hyperspace, I said to myself, "Oh boy, that's going to blow up good." And it did!
- Maybe I'm starting to lose my hearing, but a lot of the incidental dialog was difficult to hear over stuff blowing up and the orchestra blasting.
- In Watchmen, there's a passage where Nite Owl reocunts how an associate of his father's who works in the same garage had "the kind of face they don't make any more", and he mentions that faces seem to come and go in generations. I was struck by how many of the faces I saw in the crowds in the Rebellion seemed like "millenial" faces in a way that young Hammil's, young Fischer's, and the 70s-era Rebellion weren't.
- Speaking of Millenials, I feel the entire Casino Planet sidequest was justified if only to take the piss out of "the worst kinds of people!" And to establish where the First Order gets all their toys.
- I have recently a bad habit of reconstructing Internet toxicity in my head that I'm trying to kick. But I'm going to indulge it publicly just this once: I can't wait for the somber Jezebel think-piece on the relationship between Poe and Vice-Admiral Purple Dye Job, taking pains to characterize the root of his problem as toxic masculinity and making a point of characterizing his talking over her and demanding a plan as mansplaining. It's even better because the text of the script totally supports that position; literally all of the suffering in this movie not resulting from the First Order's very existence happens because of Poe Dameron's inability to submit to the wise women above him.
- Chewie please, don't throw away that Porg meat! You can't un-cook it!
- I legit thought that they were going to kill off Finn.
- I legit thought that they were going to kill off Rose.
- I would discuss the lightspeed ramming maneuver, but besides the fact that other people have already covered what I was going to say about it, we're not allowed to discuss anime.
- I would discuss Luke surviving the giant barrage of laser fire into an unsurvivable dust cloud, but we're not allowed to discuss anime.
- I was fucking exhausted by the end of the movie. It feels like the whole thing was just a progression of either war sequences, chase sequences, or mental trauma. Like, the OT moved briskly, but there were bits where people actually talked. This, like The Force Awakens, felt like it had the dizzying continual pace I always feel when I watch modern movies. For God's sake, people, slow down.
- Speaking of the war sequences, part of what makes having too many of them a bad thing is that I started nodding along at the next sequential pan over the cockpits of the rebel fighters heading out to engage the enemy and going "okay, so now we have a quick shot to show us the rebels we're going to see blowing up in the next couple minutes..."
- I didn't expect them to kill Snoke this soon.
- I didn't expect them to kill Phasma this soon. (Yeah, she's dead. I don't think that was "fall, well-armored, into a gout of flame", that was "fall into a disintegrating ship and vaporize in the flames".
- Other people have pointed this out, but Kylo's version of "let the past die" is the toxic, despondent, "burn it all down and I don't actually have a plan past that". Rey was right to reject it; even when trying to replace them, we must build on our forebears, not set fire to the foundations that keep our own selves up.
- At some point I'm going to have to bloviate about the nature of the Force, but it feels like today is not that day. What I will say is that this movie's thesis with regard to the Jedi is that a Jedi is not specifically a disciple of one particularly long-lived religious order. A Jedi is someone who does the will of the Light Side of the Force, regardless of the path they took to get there.
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I thought the movie was great. The only real negative thing was that the experience was marred by two jackasses sitting next to my girlfriend who would not shut the fuck up throughout the whole film. She tried asking them to be quiet, but they then came back a few minutes later with "Are we allowed to laugh during the film?"
If you have to ask that, then no motherfucker. How hard is it to not talk for two hours on opening night for a Star Wars Film? This is the second time for that to happen at this theater so we are never going there again. (The first being opening night for Captain America Civil War)
there was a kid constantly sniffling loudly behind me and a girl next to me who wouldnt stop talking or taking her sweater off then back on over and over. It took all of my jedi powers to block them out.
- I would discuss the lightspeed ramming maneuver, but besides the fact that other people have already covered what I was going to say about it, we're not allowed to discuss anime.
I saw this this morning, and I've let it stew for a bit, but I want to get my feelings out before I forget something important. Me being an uncritical mush-head, I quite liked it.
Whole-movie spoilers for The Last Jedi, obviously.
- I would discuss Luke surviving the giant barrage of laser fire into an unsurvivable dust cloud, but we're not allowed to discuss anime.
I lol'ed.
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So, also. My friend and I had tickets for the 10:30 showing last night. Even though it was reserved seating we wanted to be there early. We got there about an hour early and the guy went ahead and took our tickets and let us know which theater it was. So we decided to go ahead and head to the theater and find our seats. Walked in and another screening was still on. I guess it's somewhat amusing that we walked in on (actual big spoilers below)
Luke, filling up the screen, saying "...THE LAST JEDI...." Thankfully that's all I caught before we hurried back out, although it did technically reveal that Luke was still around at almost the end of the film (though...not much longer). Could have been much worse!
Kinda not sure how I feel about Snoke being offed so suddenly and the complete lack of origin or development for him? He feels like a reverse OT Palpatine. You see him maybe 3 times in 4/5 and then finally see him in person for the climax of 6, but until then he's this intimidating and shadowy figure guiding the total badass that is Vader. Here Snoke just kinda seems like... Well, he didn't seem anywhere near as intimidating (because he had way less build up) and the focus of his death scene was on Kylo Ren, not him. I guess in the end he was more of a plot device than a character but it just leaves me with unanswered questions in a way that Palpatine did not and that feels a bit weird.
Honest question:
What origin or development did we get with the Emperor in the OT? Or answered questions?
I think we're all suffering hindsight bias here...
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Snoke ( Snoke spoilers):
Seriously I'm not playin'
Snoke being killed (and the fight that ensued) is one of the greatest things I've ever seen in a movie. It completely subverted the trope, was in line with the theme of this movie (and the SW series as a whole), and made sense from the characters perspective in that moment. I'm so glad Rian Johnson and Co. had the guts to go through with it. It's a top Star Wars moment on par with the ROTJ duel, Han going into the carbonite, Vader in the hallway etc yet it was not derivative of those scenes. It was it's own thing.
edit: I also loved that the EPG actually held their own. Kylo and Rey did not simply dispatch them with ease.. it was a gritty hard fought battle that tbh could have gone either way at times.
- I would discuss the lightspeed ramming maneuver, but besides the fact that other people have already covered what I was going to say about it, we're not allowed to discuss anime.
- I would discuss Luke surviving the giant barrage of laser fire into an unsurvivable dust cloud, but we're not allowed to discuss anime.
Excuuuuuuse meeeeeee but
Did you not notice the, uh.
Luke wasn't actually there?
He was a projection?
It was a fairly major point that was pretty clearly articulated
Since that's been kind of misread... I'm not saying either of those two things didn't make sense. I'm saying that the visual aesthetic for both cases is something I remember seeing from anime. Either, in the hyperspace ramming's case, "massive impact cuts the sound out for several seconds and then the explosion hits", and in the barrage's case, "enemy opens fire on a lone, powerful opponent with such ferocity that a dust cloud kicks up but the powerful guy walks out unscathed". That Luke survived due to being a Force projection rather than being just SO SUPAH POWERFUL that he could tank it is immaterial-- Our Hero walking out of a smoke cloud from a blast that would surely have obliterated any lesser man is An Anime Thing. That was the joke.
Sorry I was unclear.
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Woo, T-20 minutes until TLJ
And the director of Hobo With A Shotgun is in the row ahead of me which is kind of neat
So when that scene hit, the theater was quiet enough that I heard a seat squeak as a guy four rows up leaned forward.
I saw it coming.
I knew exactly what was going to happen the second that the Vice Admiral stayed behind on the ship. I even almost turned to my friend to say "They're going to pull a Pegasus".
I was not prepared. There was no way for me to be prepared. It is not physically or psychologically possibly for a human being to be prepared for something like that.
Holy. Fucking. Shit.
If that scene doesn't get someone to sit a little bit straighter up in their seat, check them for a pulse or brain activity because there is something medically wrong with them.
I mean. . .you could call that from a mile'ish away. Maybe because this movie was filled with so many out of nowhere beats. that one didn't resonate enough with me.
Heyo! Felt this was a little, hmm, messier? than TFW and R1.
Freaking loved it all the same
Messy is the perfect way to describe it. After sleeping on it, I prefer TFA as a Star Wars movie, but this had way better characterizations. Also as fun as the comedy was ("Can he hear me?", "You're not busy. . .") a lot of it felt a bit out of place.
. . .one thing that was definitely fun seeing it a couple of times today was how many voices and visual cameos I noticed. I swear Cannady is someone I've heard before (he voices Letho according to IMDB, but that's not where I feel like I've heard him).
Just got here , the theater is full an hour beforehand the movie . Not in line , we are all sitting and filling the actual theater an hour early and there have been people here forever . Never seen that before.
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On the subject of porgs: I was given a porg Prez dispenser before entering the theater, and that makes me The Happiest Camper.
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I'm still digesting this movie, but I really liked what it had to say
In retrospect,
I forgot that they never paid off the third lesson thread. Luke sets it up that he's going to teach Rey three lessons, teaches two, and I'm thinking,
"that third lesson's going to come in later and surprise us. Maybe at the end of the movie or something."
But then I forgot about it and so did the movie
Not that it bothers me-- it works with the central theme of letting go of your expectations. And this movie feels so intentional that it probably wasn't an oversight
Also
Luke said the name "Darth Sideous" and for some reason I'm always shocked when the new movies acknowledge the prequels at all
The Third Lesson was to Learn from your failure, which he demonstrates in front of her. And then he adds in the fourth lesson of how to die.
I mean that works, but he was specifically announcing them each time. He still abandons the format
Which again, may have been the point
No i agree, i think there needed to be some way for the projection to speak to Rey first or for Rey to see it and for him to announce it.
Last thought for tonight, something kind of beautiful.
Luke is a person who's been orphaned over and over. He never knew his mother or father and grew up idolizing them. His aunt and uncle were murdered. He lost Obi-Wan, Yoda, and believed he could save even Darth Vader. The one time we really see him lose control is when Vader threatens Leia, he goes absolutely berserk. Then he brings back Anakin Skywalker and he dies.
So how fitting is it, despite his mistakes and burden of destiny. It's R2 reminding him of Leia, that brings him back to the fight and restores his hope. And more than that, even though Carrie Fisher died, Leia is the one who has to carry on for both Han and Luke's sake, after being saved by her brother one last time.
I dunno, I just thought that was really great.
"I can't believe he's gone..."
"No one's ever really gone."
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I choose to believe those skimmers were just old, gutted B-Wings repurposed for ground use.
I choose to believe those skimmers were just old, gutted B-Wings repurposed for ground use.
Really I was sad at how the bombers got destroyed and didn't actually have much of a role outside of the first battle. As an X-Wing player I'm on the fence of adding it to my collection. I liked the style and Space Flying Fortress Simulator aspect, but they didn't see much play for a new design.
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I choose to believe those skimmers were just old, gutted B-Wings repurposed for ground use.
Really I was sad at how the bombers got destroyed and didn't actually have much of a role outside of the first battle. As an X-Wing player I'm on the fence of adding it to my collection. I liked the style and Space Flying Fortress Simulator aspect, but they didn't see much play for a new design.
I like that whole thing and Jesus does one of those do a shit ton of damage on a single bomb run. Maybe a bit wider formation next time guys.
One non-spoiler thing that I think the new trilogy does a bit better than the previous trilogies is showing fighters as a real threat to capital ships. They expressly work to get under shields to do maximum damage in both TFA and TLJ.
Top three Star Wars movie first impression. Spoiler free thoughts ahead .
I care about Kylo Ren now. Which is good because I can stop being ashamed he has my favorite style of lightsaber.
Still like poe.
Ray was much more likeable this time around .
Luke mother fucking Skywalker.
Good interactions between characters.
Penguin things > Ewoks.
Minor quibbles is the stop everything and preach scenes which are fine but it felt everything stopped so they could do it? Only other thing is power level of a certain character exploding to godlike levels . Other then that I fucking loved it .
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OH MY GOD I LOVED THIS IT WAS SO GOOD HOLY SHIT
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there are several sequences in this movie that make me wonder if this is why they brought in the guys from The Raid to help with choreography in episode 7, and I wonder if they stuck around for 8 cause...............
I fell VINDICATED that the people who abandoned Rey on Jakku are explicitly called out as shitty, awful people.
Jakku sucks and no responsible person would leave anyone there.
"OK that is 'nowhere.'"
I love that Rey is not related to any previous character at all.
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I feel vindicated that
They basically said “fuck your mystery box” and killed snoke without explaining shit and said that Rey’s parents were asshole nobodies who sold her for booze money and were dead in a ditch.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
Kinda not sure how I feel about Snoke being offed so suddenly and the complete lack of origin or development for him? He feels like a reverse OT Palpatine. You see him maybe 3 times in 4/5 and then finally see him in person for the climax of 6, but until then he's this intimidating and shadowy figure guiding the total badass that is Vader. Here Snoke just kinda seems like... Well, he didn't seem anywhere near as intimidating (because he had way less build up) and the focus of his death scene was on Kylo Ren, not him. I guess in the end he was more of a plot device than a character but it just leaves me with unanswered questions in a way that Palpatine did not and that feels a bit weird.
Honest question:
What origin or development did we get with the Emperor in the OT? Or answered questions?
I think we're all suffering hindsight bias here...
I have said this exact same thing at least twice since that post :P
either way my point is that I don't think they handled Snoke very well in TFA, which means his death in this film was always going to be a bit weird to me. The way the Emperor in the OT was introduced and present over the trilogy was way better than how Snoke was handled in TFA and now TLJ imho
the absolute best thing they did with him was kill him off in such an unexpected manner. that was brilliant. but his entire introduction and subsequent development (as we see plenty of him compared to the OT Emp) wasn't great
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This movie basically took everything I didn't like about TFA, turned it on its ass and said FUCK IT ALL WE'RE GOING TO SPACEYS and then everything was awesome
Oh look the handsome rogue is taking charge from the woman!
FUCK YOU HE GOT EVERYONE KILLED!
Rey's parentage a crucial plot point?
FUCK YOU THEY WERE NOBODIES WHO SOLD HER FOR BOOZE AND SHE ALWAYS KNEW IT!
Time to die and be a hero!
FUCK YOU LIVE ON AND BE REBELS!
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So the character stuff. Rey felt like she swung from "You're a (father-killing) monster!" to "I can redeem him/you!" a little quickly. I'm not gonna let it bother me too much because lots of Star Wars relationships and motivations actually develop over a pretty short amount of time. I just feel like maybe the transition should have been a little longer.
I'm ok with this a: because it's Star Wars-y, and b: because, like, think of those kids, right? When they're telling stories to each other, they are telling stories about Luke Skywalker! He turned space Hitler good!
Rey was also raised with stories of LUKE SKYWALKER the LEGENDARY JEDI HERO who TURNED HIS EVIL PLANET-BLOWING-UP-YOUNGLING-MURDERING-FATHER TO THE LIGHT!
So I imagine her seeing Jedi-temple-smashing-many-planet-blowing-up-son-of-han-solo-and-lena-dunhams-ex Kylo Ren and having 'trained' with LUKE SKYWALKER and being a GOOD FORCE LADY totally believing that the next step is "turn him good"
Historical nitpick: if we're going for WW2 analogies, space Hitler would be Palpatine*, Vader is more like the Hermann Göring of the Empire:
Hermann Wilhelm Göring was a German political and military leader as well as one of the most powerful figures in the Nazi Party (NSDAP) that ruled Germany from 1933 to 1945. A veteran World War I fighter pilot ace, he was a recipient of the Pour le Mérite. He was the last commander of Jagdgeschwader 1, the fighter wing once led by Manfred von Richthofen.
An early member of the Nazi Party, Göring was among those wounded in Adolf Hitler's failed Beer Hall Putsch in 1923. While receiving treatment for his injuries, he developed an addiction to morphine which persisted until the end of his life. After Hitler became Chancellor of Germany in 1933, Göring was named as Minister Without Portfolio in the new government. One of his first acts as a cabinet minister was to oversee the creation of the Gestapo, which he ceded to Heinrich Himmler in 1934. Following the establishment of the Nazi state, Göring amassed power and political capital to become the second most powerful man in Germany. In 1935, he was appointed commander-in-chief of the Luftwaffe (air force), a position he held until the final days of the regime.
*although, as I've said previously, I don't think Palpatine really believed in anything except the Dark Side, I think he just used human-power politics as a manipulation tool to attract a certain type that would embrace his kind of despotic rule.
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But I just don't understand how lucas thought "yes this is what people say and how they react and express emotion!"
I know that's not a new thought on the internet, but I'm just now getting around to rewatching these as an adult (i don't think i've seen revenge since it was in theatres).
fuck man. That is the absolute worst. I just completely avoided the internet and TV altogether for like a month to avoid being spoiled. I was spoiled on TFA and I know how shitty it is. Nowadays it's getting harder to avoid it though, what with spoilers being put in trailers and all.
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If you have to ask that, then no motherfucker. How hard is it to not talk for two hours on opening night for a Star Wars Film? This is the second time for that to happen at this theater so we are never going there again. (The first being opening night for Captain America Civil War)
seriously not a TLJ spoiler
Whole-movie spoilers for The Last Jedi, obviously.
- Maybe I'm starting to lose my hearing, but a lot of the incidental dialog was difficult to hear over stuff blowing up and the orchestra blasting.
- In Watchmen, there's a passage where Nite Owl reocunts how an associate of his father's who works in the same garage had "the kind of face they don't make any more", and he mentions that faces seem to come and go in generations. I was struck by how many of the faces I saw in the crowds in the Rebellion seemed like "millenial" faces in a way that young Hammil's, young Fischer's, and the 70s-era Rebellion weren't.
- Speaking of Millenials, I feel the entire Casino Planet sidequest was justified if only to take the piss out of "the worst kinds of people!" And to establish where the First Order gets all their toys.
- I have recently a bad habit of reconstructing Internet toxicity in my head that I'm trying to kick. But I'm going to indulge it publicly just this once: I can't wait for the somber Jezebel think-piece on the relationship between Poe and Vice-Admiral Purple Dye Job, taking pains to characterize the root of his problem as toxic masculinity and making a point of characterizing his talking over her and demanding a plan as mansplaining. It's even better because the text of the script totally supports that position; literally all of the suffering in this movie not resulting from the First Order's very existence happens because of Poe Dameron's inability to submit to the wise women above him.
- Chewie please, don't throw away that Porg meat! You can't un-cook it!
- I legit thought that they were going to kill off Finn.
- I legit thought that they were going to kill off Rose.
- I would discuss the lightspeed ramming maneuver, but besides the fact that other people have already covered what I was going to say about it, we're not allowed to discuss anime.
- I would discuss Luke surviving the giant barrage of laser fire into an unsurvivable dust cloud, but we're not allowed to discuss anime.
- I was fucking exhausted by the end of the movie. It feels like the whole thing was just a progression of either war sequences, chase sequences, or mental trauma. Like, the OT moved briskly, but there were bits where people actually talked. This, like The Force Awakens, felt like it had the dizzying continual pace I always feel when I watch modern movies. For God's sake, people, slow down.
- Speaking of the war sequences, part of what makes having too many of them a bad thing is that I started nodding along at the next sequential pan over the cockpits of the rebel fighters heading out to engage the enemy and going "okay, so now we have a quick shot to show us the rebels we're going to see blowing up in the next couple minutes..."
- I didn't expect them to kill Snoke this soon.
- I didn't expect them to kill Phasma this soon. (Yeah, she's dead. I don't think that was "fall, well-armored, into a gout of flame", that was "fall into a disintegrating ship and vaporize in the flames".
- Other people have pointed this out, but Kylo's version of "let the past die" is the toxic, despondent, "burn it all down and I don't actually have a plan past that". Rey was right to reject it; even when trying to replace them, we must build on our forebears, not set fire to the foundations that keep our own selves up.
- At some point I'm going to have to bloviate about the nature of the Force, but it feels like today is not that day. What I will say is that this movie's thesis with regard to the Jedi is that a Jedi is not specifically a disciple of one particularly long-lived religious order. A Jedi is someone who does the will of the Light Side of the Force, regardless of the path they took to get there.
there was a kid constantly sniffling loudly behind me and a girl next to me who wouldnt stop talking or taking her sweater off then back on over and over. It took all of my jedi powers to block them out.
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Luke wasn't actually there?
He was a projection?
It was a fairly major point that was pretty clearly articulated
I lol'ed.
Honest question:
I think we're all suffering hindsight bias here...
edit: I also loved that the EPG actually held their own. Kylo and Rey did not simply dispatch them with ease.. it was a gritty hard fought battle that tbh could have gone either way at times.
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Sorry I was unclear.
And the director of Hobo With A Shotgun is in the row ahead of me which is kind of neat
I mean. . .you could call that from a mile'ish away. Maybe because this movie was filled with so many out of nowhere beats. that one didn't resonate enough with me.
Messy is the perfect way to describe it. After sleeping on it, I prefer TFA as a Star Wars movie, but this had way better characterizations. Also as fun as the comedy was ("Can he hear me?", "You're not busy. . .") a lot of it felt a bit out of place.
. . .one thing that was definitely fun seeing it a couple of times today was how many voices and visual cameos I noticed. I swear Cannady is someone I've heard before (he voices Letho according to IMDB, but that's not where I feel like I've heard him).
I had to pee the worst ive ever had to pee in my entire life
Movie was super good though
So how fitting is it, despite his mistakes and burden of destiny. It's R2 reminding him of Leia, that brings him back to the fight and restores his hope. And more than that, even though Carrie Fisher died, Leia is the one who has to carry on for both Han and Luke's sake, after being saved by her brother one last time.
I dunno, I just thought that was really great.
"I can't believe he's gone..."
"No one's ever really gone."
I care about Kylo Ren now. Which is good because I can stop being ashamed he has my favorite style of lightsaber.
Still like poe.
Ray was much more likeable this time around .
Luke mother fucking Skywalker.
Good interactions between characters.
Penguin things > Ewoks.
Minor quibbles is the stop everything and preach scenes which are fine but it felt everything stopped so they could do it? Only other thing is power level of a certain character exploding to godlike levels . Other then that I fucking loved it .
Jakku sucks and no responsible person would leave anyone there.
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I love that Rey is not related to any previous character at all.
They basically said “fuck your mystery box” and killed snoke without explaining shit and said that Rey’s parents were asshole nobodies who sold her for booze money and were dead in a ditch.
I have said this exact same thing at least twice since that post :P
the absolute best thing they did with him was kill him off in such an unexpected manner. that was brilliant. but his entire introduction and subsequent development (as we see plenty of him compared to the OT Emp) wasn't great
Was that actually his torso or did the computeratey his head onto a square ass dude?
Oh look the handsome rogue is taking charge from the woman!
FUCK YOU HE GOT EVERYONE KILLED!
Rey's parentage a crucial plot point?
FUCK YOU THEY WERE NOBODIES WHO SOLD HER FOR BOOZE AND SHE ALWAYS KNEW IT!
Time to die and be a hero!
FUCK YOU LIVE ON AND BE REBELS!
Historical nitpick: if we're going for WW2 analogies, space Hitler would be Palpatine*, Vader is more like the Hermann Göring of the Empire:
*although, as I've said previously, I don't think Palpatine really believed in anything except the Dark Side, I think he just used human-power politics as a manipulation tool to attract a certain type that would embrace his kind of despotic rule.