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Penny Arcade - Comic - Solitary Confinement, Part Two
I've never had a drug trip, but this reminds me a lot of fever dreams. Can't quite fall all the way asleep so you're still sort of aware of the environment and everything turns into a weird metaphor.
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Dhalphirdon't you open that trapdooryou're a fool if you dareRegistered Userregular
This is not where I expected this latest example of continuity to be headed.
This reminds me of when I was nine years old and ended up with a pretty bad case of the flu. I was hallucinating any time I was awake and it was at this point my mom decided to gift me my dads old 8-track collection. Along with all the Zeppelin, Deep Purple and Peter Frampton was Pink Floyd's 'The Wall'. Listening to it for the first time was surreal but nothing could have prepared me for listening to Comfortably Numb while I was comfortably tripping balls thanks to flu and alcohol-infused flu medication.
As amazing an experience as it was a pretty off-putting one and one of the main reasons I avoid doing any drug stronger than Ibuprofin. 'The Wall' has some pretty dark moments.
As amazing an experience as it was a pretty off-putting one and one of the main reasons I avoid doing any drug stronger than Ibuprofin. 'The Wall' has some pretty dark moments.
As an Englishman, I approve of this blandly expressed understatement.
What's worse is when you look outside the little window and realize: wait, you're still on the tarmac. o_O
I always sleep on planes. One time before a ten hour flight I fell asleep and woke up four hours later thinking "ok that was a good chunk". Looked out the window. Still on the runway.
What's worse is when you look outside the little window and realize: wait, you're still on the tarmac. o_O
I always sleep on planes. One time before a ten hour flight I fell asleep and woke up four hours later thinking "ok that was a good chunk". Looked out the window. Still on the runway.
That's when you realize you really don't need to go wherever you're trying to go. Then you just get up, kick open the emergency exit and just leave.
Everyone has a price. Throw enough gold around and someone will risk disintegration.
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RingoHe/Hima distinct lack of substanceRegistered Userregular
I didn't notice Gabe's arms being in the air in the third panel
More "fever dream" than Ambien (never tried it personally)?
I relate to running a strong fever as a kid; hallucinating like crazy: being in this weird, metaphoric, half-dream state where geometric patterns of indescribable portent were rushing toward each other with cataclysmic speed and apocalyptic meaning. It affected me for life.
I don't agree. Ambien hallucinations are hardly a unique idea. Comics about them years apart with almost no connection beside Ambien, hallucinations, and talking animals are not what I'd call "derivative".
I don't agree. Ambien hallucinations are hardly a unique idea. Comics about them years apart with almost no connection beside Ambien, hallucinations, and talking animals are not what I'd call "derivative".
I'm not suggesting they knowingly stole the joke, but your list of "Ambien, hallucinations, and talking animals" is, like, the entire contents of both strips.
My "favorite" literal fever dream was when I was convinced that my great discomfort was due to a dozen or two parallel-dimensional/timeline versions of myself, each denoted by a little hovering number, all trying to occupy the same space simultaneously, or just slightly out of sync.
You know that visual effect where they show a body in motion as multiple images or animation frames, overlaid on each other, with the "slow" or "late" ones catching up with the rest? Like that.
I don't agree. Ambien hallucinations are hardly a unique idea. Comics about them years apart with almost no connection beside Ambien, hallucinations, and talking animals are not what I'd call "derivative".
I'm not suggesting they knowingly stole the joke, but your list of "Ambien, hallucinations, and talking animals" is, like, the entire contents of both strips.
I think "reminiscent" would be a better word than "derivative" then.
My "favorite" literal fever dream was when I was convinced that my great discomfort was due to a dozen or two parallel-dimensional/timeline versions of myself, each denoted by a little hovering number, all trying to occupy the same space simultaneously, or just slightly out of sync.
You know that visual effect where they show a body in motion as multiple images or animation frames, overlaid on each other, with the "slow" or "late" ones catching up with the rest? Like that.
The only fever dream i really have any memory of I was looking down at my bed like it was the map in an RTS game, and all the units from my ex's side kept bringing over heat and taking away water and my guys couldn't fight them off.
More "fever dream" than Ambien (never tried it personally)?
"That doesn't seem AT ALL like this thing that I've never experienced before!"
Heh heh, true. I guess my post is a question disguised as a statement; will Ambien really do this? I mean, I've experimented with hallucinogens in my youthful years, I guess I've never thought of... Ambien as being in that category. I have no intent of trying it, it was more of a weirdly worded question.
More "fever dream" than Ambien (never tried it personally)?
"That doesn't seem AT ALL like this thing that I've never experienced before!"
Heh heh, true. I guess my post is a question disguised as a statement; will Ambien really do this? I mean, I've experimented with hallucinogens in my youthful years, I guess I've never thought of... Ambien as being in that category. I have no intent of trying it, it was more of a weirdly worded question.
In my experience, if I don't go to sleep after I take an ambien, shadows start to move and I'll end up talking to beings that aren't there or in some cases have a waking dream. So it's totally possible!
Excuse my snarkiness it's just my natural state of being.
I don't agree. Ambien hallucinations are hardly a unique idea. Comics about them years apart with almost no connection beside Ambien, hallucinations, and talking animals are not what I'd call "derivative".
I'm not suggesting they knowingly stole the joke, but your list of "Ambien, hallucinations, and talking animals" is, like, the entire contents of both strips.
I'm not suggesting you know what "derivative" means.
I don't agree. Ambien hallucinations are hardly a unique idea. Comics about them years apart with almost no connection beside Ambien, hallucinations, and talking animals are not what I'd call "derivative".
I'm not suggesting they knowingly stole the joke, but your list of "Ambien, hallucinations, and talking animals" is, like, the entire contents of both strips.
I'm not suggesting you know what "derivative" means.
I was implying more of a Louis C.K. <-> Dane Cook type of thing. Joke gets in your head, time goes by, you forget about it, brain regurgitates it much later on when the circumstances are right.
If you really want to get pedantic about "derivative" vs. "reminiscent" or similar, that's fine I guess?
Creators in this space (rightfully) get very upset when plagiarism occurs (see @thefatjewish et al.), so I think it's at least worth discussing when multiple comic strip authors end up producing pieces of work that bear strong similarities in both content and tone.
Creators in this space (rightfully) get very upset when plagiarism occurs (see @thefatjewish et al.), so I think it's at least worth discussing when multiple comic strip authors end up producing pieces of work that bear strong similarities in both content and tone.
Except (and I'm not trying to flame you hear so much as be brutally honest about my opinion) in this case, you do not seem to be equipped for knowing when that discussion should occur. As other people have noted, the comic you brought up bears little to no resemblance to the one PA created. Also, at the risk of being out-of-the-loop, I think most people (Mike included) have never seen or heard of this comic. Google search for "ambien walrus" returns 16,000 hits. In comparison, "sleepy penguin" returns 36,500 hits, and that's a thing I just made up.
People aren't taking you seriously because you're not offering a serious argument. The critique you have made is so prima facie meaningless that people are rightly rejecting it out of hand.
I think most people (Mike included) have never seen or heard of this comic.
Unless your are Mike Krahulik or have worked closely with him over an extended period of time, I don't know how you could possibly have any idea whether or not he knows Toothpaste for Dinner exists.
I had a longer response typed out, but it's not worth the pissing contest. Just know I take issue with an "I'm not trying to flame you but..." response, when your first post in this thread was pretty clearly meant to do exactly that.
I think most people (Mike included) have never seen or heard of this comic.
Unless your are Mike Krahulik or have worked closely with him over an extended period of time, I don't know how you could possibly have any idea whether or not he knows Toothpaste for Dinner exists.
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As amazing an experience as it was a pretty off-putting one and one of the main reasons I avoid doing any drug stronger than Ibuprofin. 'The Wall' has some pretty dark moments.
As an Englishman, I approve of this blandly expressed understatement.
"How long ago did we take off?"
"Forever."
"And how long until we land?"
"Forever."
I always sleep on planes. One time before a ten hour flight I fell asleep and woke up four hours later thinking "ok that was a good chunk". Looked out the window. Still on the runway.
That's when you realize you really don't need to go wherever you're trying to go. Then you just get up, kick open the emergency exit and just leave.
That's great
Fantastic voyage
I relate to running a strong fever as a kid; hallucinating like crazy: being in this weird, metaphoric, half-dream state where geometric patterns of indescribable portent were rushing toward each other with cataclysmic speed and apocalyptic meaning. It affected me for life.
Path of Exile: snowcrash7
MTG Arena: Snow_Crash#34179
Battle.net: Snowcrash#1873
I don't agree. Ambien hallucinations are hardly a unique idea. Comics about them years apart with almost no connection beside Ambien, hallucinations, and talking animals are not what I'd call "derivative".
I'm not suggesting they knowingly stole the joke, but your list of "Ambien, hallucinations, and talking animals" is, like, the entire contents of both strips.
Path of Exile: snowcrash7
MTG Arena: Snow_Crash#34179
Battle.net: Snowcrash#1873
looking super cool.
"That doesn't seem AT ALL like this thing that I've never experienced before!"
You know that visual effect where they show a body in motion as multiple images or animation frames, overlaid on each other, with the "slow" or "late" ones catching up with the rest? Like that.
I think "reminiscent" would be a better word than "derivative" then.
The only fever dream i really have any memory of I was looking down at my bed like it was the map in an RTS game, and all the units from my ex's side kept bringing over heat and taking away water and my guys couldn't fight them off.
Heh heh, true. I guess my post is a question disguised as a statement; will Ambien really do this? I mean, I've experimented with hallucinogens in my youthful years, I guess I've never thought of... Ambien as being in that category. I have no intent of trying it, it was more of a weirdly worded question.
In my experience, if I don't go to sleep after I take an ambien, shadows start to move and I'll end up talking to beings that aren't there or in some cases have a waking dream. So it's totally possible!
Excuse my snarkiness it's just my natural state of being.
I'm not suggesting you know what "derivative" means.
I was implying more of a Louis C.K. <-> Dane Cook type of thing. Joke gets in your head, time goes by, you forget about it, brain regurgitates it much later on when the circumstances are right.
If you really want to get pedantic about "derivative" vs. "reminiscent" or similar, that's fine I guess?
Creators in this space (rightfully) get very upset when plagiarism occurs (see @thefatjewish et al.), so I think it's at least worth discussing when multiple comic strip authors end up producing pieces of work that bear strong similarities in both content and tone.
Path of Exile: snowcrash7
MTG Arena: Snow_Crash#34179
Battle.net: Snowcrash#1873
Except (and I'm not trying to flame you hear so much as be brutally honest about my opinion) in this case, you do not seem to be equipped for knowing when that discussion should occur. As other people have noted, the comic you brought up bears little to no resemblance to the one PA created. Also, at the risk of being out-of-the-loop, I think most people (Mike included) have never seen or heard of this comic. Google search for "ambien walrus" returns 16,000 hits. In comparison, "sleepy penguin" returns 36,500 hits, and that's a thing I just made up.
People aren't taking you seriously because you're not offering a serious argument. The critique you have made is so prima facie meaningless that people are rightly rejecting it out of hand.
Speaking of the last frame, I'd buy a T-Shirt of it if I was aloud to customize the dialogue (or remove the bubbles completely)
I had a longer response typed out, but it's not worth the pissing contest. Just know I take issue with an "I'm not trying to flame you but..." response, when your first post in this thread was pretty clearly meant to do exactly that.
Path of Exile: snowcrash7
MTG Arena: Snow_Crash#34179
Battle.net: Snowcrash#1873
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geVYIHOat5o
Well, they're two totally different things. See, that one is a luckdragon. The one in the strip is clearly a fuckdragon.
Hi! Ten years! He doesn’t read that comic.