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Oil spill
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The dakota pipeline spilled 250,000 gallons
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yeah fuck that and fuck those idiots who thought this was a good idea
Yes. It is turbofucked at all levels.
this is certainly the year for that
Just, fuckin', listen to indigenous people
and literally everyone else that wasn't getting kickbacks
well
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-pipeline-keystone/keystone-xl-opponents-make-last-gasp-effort-in-nebraska-idUSKBN1DF2H4
transcanada has fucked up so many times in alberta
they should not even be allowed to operate in the province, let alone export out of it
every single time they say they have something under control it goes wrong
$5 says our governor still okays the pipeline even after this because he is a dime store Lex Luthor.
You fucking stupid fuckers.
they were gonna do this no matter what because dolla dolla bills
https://gofund.me/fa5990a5
I love how conservative sites say it's only 5,000 barrels and everyone else reports it's 250,000 gallons. I'm waiting on someone to report it as 950,000,000,000 cubic millimeters.
Using barrels as a measurement is purposeful obfuscation, because most people have fuck-all idea how big a standard oil barrel is.
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I think that's exactly the kind of barrel that's referenced too, 40ish gallons fits into those?
It's the same kind you see on someone's lawn for burning stuff in.
Not shipping oil means all kinds of fucked things for the way our economy is structured. Fuel prices and cost of goods could skyrocket, which inevitably target the poor and most vulnerable.
Moving it by other means poses far more cost, risk and often environmental impact. Pipelines suck but they’re the safest option we’ve got, that I’m aware of.
This was one of the highest-tech pipelines in existence. Something monumental fucked up to release a spill like this, and it’s a fucking tragedy on top of a pile of tragedies this shitty fucking year has been heaping on non-stop, but this wasn’t because a bunch of rich folks decided “hahaha fuck the poor”. This was literally the smartest minds in the industry using the best option available to provide a service critical to the way the world currently works.
Sorry if that shits on the “let’s laugh at these idiots” parade, but this is kind of a real fucked situation here.
I dont disagree.
You got any better ideas?
I really wish I did! I don't think it is a problem any one person can solve
Least of all a big old dummy like myself.
Solar and wind?
Tesla just unveiled a new shipping truck that's all electric.
Also the demand for the oil from keystone XL has dropped:
https://www.fastcompany.com/3069114/even-if-the-keystone-pipeline-is-approved-there-may-not-be-enough-demand-to-build-it
I'm not sure how critical it is at this juncture, especially not with it's risks and costs to the environment.
Oh wait, literally everyone who knows anything about how pipeline systems work.
I fucking wish we could get off this goddamned oily teat, but there is no way it’s happening overnight. Even if there wasn’t massive industry resistance to adopting clean energy sources, it’s gunna take a decade or more before we can cut this infrastructure off.
I’m not advocating for these pipelines, btw. I supported the NODAPL movement a lot, donated a bunch of money to organizers and documentarians I knew in the region who helped fight against it.
I also happen to have a lot of family in the industry and have had a fucking ton of these conversations about this shit, so it makes me a bit of a realist who knee jerks instinctively when I see something this fucking awful happen and the response is a room full of people pointing and laughing like they had better ideas.
Have we tried raising prices to curb use
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I suspect Maui, in fact, can switch over in theory, but cannot otherwise secure the capital needed to build sufficient infrastructure. They'd likely need a federal grant, and given the composition of the current federal government, well...
Yeah that’ll show them billionaire CEOs who’s boss!
Or maybe that’ll just fuck all the working class who rely on an infrastructure designed around fossil fuels.
You do that and then literally every single good you purchase goes up in price.