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Mute was... a lot
overall I enjoyed it, but there's a scene or two involving a trans sex worker that wouldn't be out of place in some trashy exploitation comedy from the 70's.
like it's totally indefensibly awkward and bad and inexplicably in the movie?? it's an attempt to subvert noir imagery, I guess?? but only, as you can imagine, in a skin-deep ghoulish fashion that thinks it's so edgy and outrageous and ultimately fetishistic. At least that was my read on the character.
pretty much everything else fit the bill of a tense, lush, weird Duncan Jones Noir thriller. Rudd was very, very good. I hope Jones makes more movies like this (but not EXACTLY like this)
But like,
Duncan.
what the fuck was the deal with that character?? can we just...not? can we not?
can we not?????
The Phantom Thread always makes me think of a forum thread , possibly like a star wars prequel thread, or a ghosting thread or something. Is a good thread title.
The Phantom Thread always makes me think of a forum thread , possibly like a star wars prequel thread, or a ghosting thread or something. Is a good thread title.
I have no idea what the actual movie is about.
Disfunktional relationships, so very forum appropriate.
overall I enjoyed it, but there's a scene or two involving a trans sex worker that wouldn't be out of place in some trashy exploitation comedy from the 70's.
like it's totally indefensibly awkward and bad and inexplicably in the movie?? it's an attempt to subvert noir imagery, I guess?? but only, as you can imagine, in a skin-deep ghoulish fashion that thinks it's so edgy and outrageous and ultimately fetishistic. At least that was my read on the character.
pretty much everything else fit the bill of a tense, lush, weird Duncan Jones Noir thriller. Rudd was very, very good. I hope Jones makes more movies like this (but not EXACTLY like this)
But like,
Duncan.
what the fuck was the deal with that character?? can we just...not? can we not?
can we not?????
Neat
I mean I didn't give a shit about Duncan Jones before, looks like it's not exactly time to start now
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First episode he shows up out of nowhere and we learn he is Jordan's brother and Dr. Cox' best friend.
He has a hand wound from a nail gun that's bandaged. He takes candid pictures with an old camera.
Cox, JD, and Fraser go out to play pool. While playing they notice the bandaged hand keeps bleeding and he laments that he had the same problem with a shaving wound from the other day. The doctor's look at each other because they know what it might mean.
They go back, do some blood work, and JD delivers the news to him and Cox that he has cancer. Cox refuses to believe it and tells JD he screwed up. Earlier in the episode they are talking about various mistakes people in the hospital had made so it gets JD thinking that maybe they mixed up the blood sample.
He goes on a witch hunt all through the hospital trying to find the mistake. He ends up at the Hematopathologist who is said to be this giant mean guy all episode. It turns out he is a little friendly guy Dr. Bob but his friends call him Fred. "Fred Bob?"
He tests it and it turns out that there was a mistake and Fraser doesn't have cancer!
They go back to the room and Fraser has them all pose for a picture. JD thinks this is weird because earlier he talked about his he hates posed photos. The scene fades and JD is back in the room. There has been no mistake. He has cancer.
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I'm really excited to hear good things about Annihilation. Loved the book, and the trailers nearly drove me away, but the comments above sound like just what I want.
I mean, compared to Inland Empire, yes, Blue Velvet or Mulhulland Drive are pretty straight forward. Still odd and inscrutable, but Inland Empire is something else and not a good place to start.
When it comes to arthouse directors, Lynch is easily one of the far more accessible ones when he's put against like, Jodorowsky or Bunuel
For every Inland Empire or Eraserhead, there's an Elephant Man or Twin Peaks, things that are genuine cultural phenomenons
Stuff like Blue Velvet or Mulholland Drive also kind of have reputations as "My First "Arty"" movies, being just accessible enough to bring in a much wider audience than the content of the movie would actually suggest
When it comes to arthouse directors, Lynch is easily one of the far more accessible ones when he's put against like, Jodorowsky or Bunuel
For every Inland Empire or Eraserhead, there's an Elephant Man or Twin Peaks, things that are genuine cultural phenomenons
Stuff like Blue Velvet or Mulholland Drive also kind of have reputations as "My First "Arty"" movies, being just accessible enough to bring in a much wider audience than the content of the movie would actually suggest
The main problems here is the central plot is very rote and boring ("oh no, My Girlfriend") when the movie should clearly just be about Paul Rudd, the actually interesting and fun character who has a unique place in the world
the other, potentially worse problem, is this is a very Blade Runner movie released after Blade Runner 2049, which has outdone nearly every movie to ape Blade Runner since it came out (including the original movie, for my money) in visual execution and thematic depth
I dunno, calling it awful or a disaster feels like supreme hyperbole, but it does not seem great for sure
The main problems here is the central plot is very rote and boring ("oh no, My Girlfriend") when the movie should clearly just be about Paul Rudd, the actually interesting and fun character who has a unique place in the world
the other, potentially worse problem, is this is a very Blade Runner movie released after Blade Runner 2049, which has outdone nearly every movie to ape Blade Runner since it came out (including the original movie, for my money) in visual execution and thematic depth
I dunno, calling it awful or a disaster feels like supreme hyperbole, but it does not seem great for sure
I also don't really see how the box office results are relevant here as I'm just talking about the quality of the film itself
My point was that if noone had seen it very few people were going to go "well this is ok but Blade runner 2049 is doing it better", but apparently that's a moot point anyway
Well it had a budget of $175m so if it made $250m it's either a success, a mild success, a failure, or a tremendous failure depending on what sort of scrying mirror you use
Well it had a budget of $175m so if it made $250m it's either a success, a mild success, a failure, or a tremendous failure depending on what sort of scrying mirror you use
It had a production budget of around that, but it apparently needed 400 mil to 'break even' so I think that would categorically make it a flop, if it didn't make enough back to be considered profitable? I dunno how those types of things are gauged
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Well it had a budget of $175m so if it made $250m it's either a success, a mild success, a failure, or a tremendous failure depending on what sort of scrying mirror you use
It had a production budget of around that, but it apparently needed 400 mil to 'break even' so I think that would categorically make it a flop, if it didn't make enough back to be considered profitable? I dunno how those types of things are gauged
They are gauged in whatever way will pump the most cash directly into the executive producer's pockets.
I love the first Darkman. I watched it again recently and man that movie was a lot more fucked up than I remember.
I've never seen the sequels. As I say about Darkman sequels "No Neeson, no me, son."
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Regardless of whether it was profitable or not, 250 million dollars means a LOT of people saw it, which was the point being made. It's not an obscure arthouse film that you can ape the style of and no one will be the wiser on your influence.
Ah, it stinks, it sucks, it's anthropologically unjust
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Holy shit. I really wish there were more films that just throw you into a world in that way. I'm so glad that I went in blind.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/feb/23/mute-review-netflix-duncan-jones-sci-fi
http://variety.com/2018/film/reviews/mute-review-netflix-1202708702/
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overall I enjoyed it, but there's a scene or two involving a trans sex worker that wouldn't be out of place in some trashy exploitation comedy from the 70's.
like it's totally indefensibly awkward and bad and inexplicably in the movie?? it's an attempt to subvert noir imagery, I guess?? but only, as you can imagine, in a skin-deep ghoulish fashion that thinks it's so edgy and outrageous and ultimately fetishistic. At least that was my read on the character.
pretty much everything else fit the bill of a tense, lush, weird Duncan Jones Noir thriller. Rudd was very, very good. I hope Jones makes more movies like this (but not EXACTLY like this)
But like,
Duncan.
what the fuck was the deal with that character?? can we just...not? can we not?
can we not?????
Have you seen other Lynch films? I love Inland Empire, but it's quite different from his other stuff. Most of his movies are way more accessible.
I have no idea what the actual movie is about.
Disfunktional relationships, so very forum appropriate.
Neat
I mean I didn't give a shit about Duncan Jones before, looks like it's not exactly time to start now
david lynch is like if terry gilliam, instead of never finishing a movie, threw several together
First episode he shows up out of nowhere and we learn he is Jordan's brother and Dr. Cox' best friend.
He has a hand wound from a nail gun that's bandaged. He takes candid pictures with an old camera.
Cox, JD, and Fraser go out to play pool. While playing they notice the bandaged hand keeps bleeding and he laments that he had the same problem with a shaving wound from the other day. The doctor's look at each other because they know what it might mean.
They go back, do some blood work, and JD delivers the news to him and Cox that he has cancer. Cox refuses to believe it and tells JD he screwed up. Earlier in the episode they are talking about various mistakes people in the hospital had made so it gets JD thinking that maybe they mixed up the blood sample.
He goes on a witch hunt all through the hospital trying to find the mistake. He ends up at the Hematopathologist who is said to be this giant mean guy all episode. It turns out he is a little friendly guy Dr. Bob but his friends call him Fred. "Fred Bob?"
He tests it and it turns out that there was a mistake and Fraser doesn't have cancer!
They go back to the room and Fraser has them all pose for a picture. JD thinks this is weird because earlier he talked about his he hates posed photos. The scene fades and JD is back in the room. There has been no mistake. He has cancer.
Fin
I mean, compared to Inland Empire, yes, Blue Velvet or Mulhulland Drive are pretty straight forward. Still odd and inscrutable, but Inland Empire is something else and not a good place to start.
This brings me such joy every time I see it.
For every Inland Empire or Eraserhead, there's an Elephant Man or Twin Peaks, things that are genuine cultural phenomenons
Stuff like Blue Velvet or Mulholland Drive also kind of have reputations as "My First "Arty"" movies, being just accessible enough to bring in a much wider audience than the content of the movie would actually suggest
His name is a genre for a reason
Well if you're going to bring Bunuel into this
The main problems here is the central plot is very rote and boring ("oh no, My Girlfriend") when the movie should clearly just be about Paul Rudd, the actually interesting and fun character who has a unique place in the world
the other, potentially worse problem, is this is a very Blade Runner movie released after Blade Runner 2049, which has outdone nearly every movie to ape Blade Runner since it came out (including the original movie, for my money) in visual execution and thematic depth
I dunno, calling it awful or a disaster feels like supreme hyperbole, but it does not seem great for sure
Noone saw blade runner 2049 though
And this is a "free" netflix release
I thought I had heard it was a colossal flop?
Gotcha, I mean thats not great nowadays but certainly isn't as bad as I'd been lead to believe
Fair enough, I stand corrected
My point was that if noone had seen it very few people were going to go "well this is ok but Blade runner 2049 is doing it better", but apparently that's a moot point anyway
It had a production budget of around that, but it apparently needed 400 mil to 'break even' so I think that would categorically make it a flop, if it didn't make enough back to be considered profitable? I dunno how those types of things are gauged
They are gauged in whatever way will pump the most cash directly into the executive producer's pockets.
Ridley Scott and Rutger Hauer talking shit about it doesn't help much
I'm never wrong!
I wanna be clear: I wasn't attacking 2049 in any way or implying it was bad, I've never seen it
I just thought I had heard it did very poorly
That was the extent of my statement
Yep, Annihilation was still a fucked up scary movie, and pretty good sci-fi to boot
Yeah I'm not saying anything 'bout you, it just reminded me
seeing stuff like Villeneuve saying he "can't make another movie like Arrival or 2049 anymore" just breaks my heart is all
Because he won't get the kind of budget again?
I feel as if this thread deserves to see this tribute to Darkman
Edit: I also really love the Alex Baldwin version of The Shadow but i only watched it like twice when I w as but a wee child
I've never seen the sequels. As I say about Darkman sequels "No Neeson, no me, son."
Yepppppp.
I kinda want to watch it again but I'm not sure if I can handle it. Maybe I'll just read the book.
It legitimately took me over half an hour to realize that.