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Hi I'm Vee!Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C ERegistered Userregular
I've finished the first and read 80% of the second Earthsea books, and while I'm really enjoying them, I'm not sure what makes them particularly feminist fiction?
Or maybe they're not regarded that way, and it's just a coincidence that so many of my strong feminist lady friends really like them.
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simonwolfi can feel a differencetoday, a differenceRegistered Userregular
subjectivity bracket
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Hi I'm Vee!Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C ERegistered Userregular
You don't want strong contenders meeting early, you want them meeting late, so that progression in the bracket is a reasonable indicator of how strong the "team" is.
It's why underseeding and overseeding sucks, because you end up with good teams knocked out early and weak teams in the goddamn Elite 8 or some shit.
On the other hand it’s always nice seeing Duke get knocked out on the first weekend
Yeah, but the whole reason for that is because it's a weak team knocking them out.
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AtomikaLive fast and get fucked or whateverRegistered Userregular
that horrifying drop when you just said some petty, cruel shit to one of your bad-person friends and you think for a second you sent it to the wrong thread
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Hi I'm Vee!Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C ERegistered Userregular
I've finished the first and read 80% of the second Earthsea books, and while I'm really enjoying them, I'm not sure what makes them particularly feminist fiction?
Or maybe they're not regarded that way, and it's just a coincidence that so many of my strong feminist lady friends really like them.
Honestly the point where Earthsea becomes strongly feminist in the sense most people imagine that term applying is in Tehanu, the fourth book of Earthsea which LeGuin wrote decades after the third one as kind of a response and reflection on the first three and what they said about how fantasy was constructed/viewed when she wrote them; it centres not on Sparrowhawk but on an older woman, and how she sees and experiences this world
i would recommend reading through all four and then letting it settle for a while
you guys mentioning SF books reminds me of when i asked chat for 'good' book advise instead of just episodic pulp
and i read a couple and had to stop and restart constantly, several times a page, because a sentence had gotten away from me or i didn't recall the last few sentences i'd read at all
i think maybe i am too dumb/adhd for big boy books nowadays
I've finished the first and read 80% of the second Earthsea books, and while I'm really enjoying them, I'm not sure what makes them particularly feminist fiction?
Or maybe they're not regarded that way, and it's just a coincidence that so many of my strong feminist lady friends really like them.
I don't think earthsea is considered that although the sequels might be (no recollection)
The Left Hand of Darkness 100% is, as it explicitly discusses how society is completely ruled by gender and explores what it is like in a population of people who don't have fixed genders. I mean, that is not necessarily the main thing, although it's a main thing; another main thing is that it's about a guy from another planet making contact with a less advanced planet, and how that feels and if that's going to work; it's also about friendship and grit in the face of a hostile planet.
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Hi I'm Vee!Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C ERegistered Userregular
I'm not sure Timmverse should count, since it's the only good stuff
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Hi I'm Vee!Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C ERegistered Userregular
I think it is literally true that I spend approximately equal time playing the fun parts of the game and managing my inventory. If anything, it probably leans more towards the latter.
That ratio is too skewed for me to want to keep playing, I think.
Plus they didn't give me my six-piece Lone Star set two weekends ago, so what is even the point
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AtomikaLive fast and get fucked or whateverRegistered Userregular
I've finished the first and read 80% of the second Earthsea books, and while I'm really enjoying them, I'm not sure what makes them particularly feminist fiction?
Or maybe they're not regarded that way, and it's just a coincidence that so many of my strong feminist lady friends really like them.
Honestly the point where Earthsea becomes strongly feminist in the sense most people imagine that term applying is in Tehanu, the fourth book of Earthsea which LeGuin wrote decades after the third one as kind of a response and reflection on the first three and what they said about how fantasy was constructed/viewed when she wrote them; it centres not on Sparrowhawk but on an older woman, and how she sees and experiences this world
i would recommend reading through all four and then letting it settle for a while
that's a real loose definition of SF for a bracket
also the winner would be Left Hand of Darkness don't @ me
I finally read Left Hand of Darkness so I can stop being a fake feminist
It was good but I did not like it as much as most of the more recent scifi I've read
calling Ursula LeGuin to come and zombie your butt
I said it was good!
I just like reading scifi with space battles and/or cool future shit in it...but it did have some very good interludes articulating very clearly some thoughts on gender that I agree with
I feel you, friend -- it isn't "SF" in the way that the genre is often considered but it is still definitely SF
If you will turn to chapter 2 of my thesis, where I discuss the issues in genre theory, you will see *continues rambling for twenty minutes about semantics/syntax/pragmatism*
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Hi I'm Vee!Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C ERegistered Userregular
I've finished the first and read 80% of the second Earthsea books, and while I'm really enjoying them, I'm not sure what makes them particularly feminist fiction?
Or maybe they're not regarded that way, and it's just a coincidence that so many of my strong feminist lady friends really like them.
Honestly the point where Earthsea becomes strongly feminist in the sense most people imagine that term applying is in Tehanu, the fourth book of Earthsea which LeGuin wrote decades after the third one as kind of a response and reflection on the first three and what they said about how fantasy was constructed/viewed when she wrote them; it centres not on Sparrowhawk but on an older woman, and how she sees and experiences this world
i would recommend reading through all four and then letting it settle for a while
Hmm, okay cool, I will do this.
The second book (Tombs of Atuan) is also probably feminist for being almost entirely written from the perspective of a young woman who is in a position of both imagined power and enacted oppression, a stark drift from the first novel being so centred on Sparrowhawk; that was probably more notable in its time of origin, though, compared to now.
Like I said, Tehanu is where the real reflections on feminism and femininity in fantasy come to the foreground.
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Or maybe they're not regarded that way, and it's just a coincidence that so many of my strong feminist lady friends really like them.
Yeah, but the whole reason for that is because it's a weak team knocking them out.
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But I did learn that national moth week is July 21-29 this year
Honestly the point where Earthsea becomes strongly feminist in the sense most people imagine that term applying is in Tehanu, the fourth book of Earthsea which LeGuin wrote decades after the third one as kind of a response and reflection on the first three and what they said about how fantasy was constructed/viewed when she wrote them; it centres not on Sparrowhawk but on an older woman, and how she sees and experiences this world
i would recommend reading through all four and then letting it settle for a while
You take that back!
*shoots lightning toward Chicago*
and i read a couple and had to stop and restart constantly, several times a page, because a sentence had gotten away from me or i didn't recall the last few sentences i'd read at all
i think maybe i am too dumb/adhd for big boy books nowadays
The Division: Extreme Inventory Manager however remains not a fun game at all
I don't think earthsea is considered that although the sequels might be (no recollection)
The Left Hand of Darkness 100% is, as it explicitly discusses how society is completely ruled by gender and explores what it is like in a population of people who don't have fixed genders. I mean, that is not necessarily the main thing, although it's a main thing; another main thing is that it's about a guy from another planet making contact with a less advanced planet, and how that feels and if that's going to work; it's also about friendship and grit in the face of a hostile planet.
I have actually decided to stop playing the former because of the latter.
I'm not sure Timmverse should count, since it's the only good stuff
That ratio is too skewed for me to want to keep playing, I think.
Plus they didn't give me my six-piece Lone Star set two weekends ago, so what is even the point
Just a week?
lame
Hmm, okay cool, I will do this.
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
I feel you, friend -- it isn't "SF" in the way that the genre is often considered but it is still definitely SF
If you will turn to chapter 2 of my thesis, where I discuss the issues in genre theory, you will see *continues rambling for twenty minutes about semantics/syntax/pragmatism*
I pretty much only read on planes and in hotels.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Oh they're not so bad
It's the tarantula hawks that'll get ya
The second book (Tombs of Atuan) is also probably feminist for being almost entirely written from the perspective of a young woman who is in a position of both imagined power and enacted oppression, a stark drift from the first novel being so centred on Sparrowhawk; that was probably more notable in its time of origin, though, compared to now.
Like I said, Tehanu is where the real reflections on feminism and femininity in fantasy come to the foreground.
On average, this thread was careening by at warp 2
@Undead Scottsman will create the new thread
@Sir Landshark is backup