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    admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited February 2019
    Well, the tricky part is that it was a Bodyguard so he sacrificed it before Cry killed it. Which works against most exiling sweepers but not Cry.

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    PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    If that's the case, then...it wouldn't exile. You'd sacrifice it with Cry on the stack, so the exile wouldn't happen.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    If that's the case, then...it wouldn't exile. You'd sacrifice it with Cry on the stack, so the exile wouldn't happen.

    No, it would.
    Exile all creature cards in all graveyards that were put there from the battlefield this turn.

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    PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    Oh then yeah the card is worded and acts differently than previous effects that have done that so I can absolutely understand not playing around it perfectly. I would have absolutely missed that if my opponent didn't correct my actions.

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    The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
    SLyM wrote: »
    I dunno how the paper magic meta is different from arena, but cry isn't that uncommon, and the exile effect often isn't that much of an afterthought IMO. I also don't really care about competitive magic though so I have no real input

    With arena, those things are automated, which means you don't have to think about it. This kind of effect is fairly new to magic (usually these types of cards don't exile)

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    KayKay What we need... Is a little bit of PANIC.Registered User regular
    I'd be more inclined to give the benefit of the doubt to someone without MC's history, to be quite honest.

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    at the risk of sounding like i'm shitting on people's discussion i really couldn't give two shits whether someone was cheating or not

    a lot of the community seems really invested in it and to me it's just, shrug

    not my lane to try and find people doing it, not my responsibility to mete out justice

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    XeddicusXeddicus Registered User regular
    Most of everything that happens has no direct effect on you, but it's still interesting to talk about for whatever reason to people.

    Maybe it SHOULD be your job to mete out justice, have you tried it?

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    SLyM wrote: »
    I dunno how the paper magic meta is different from arena, but cry isn't that uncommon, and the exile effect often isn't that much of an afterthought IMO. I also don't really care about competitive magic though so I have no real input

    With arena, those things are automated, which means you don't have to think about it. This kind of effect is fairly new to magic (usually these types of cards don't exile)

    and while there are sweepers that kill/exile (e.g. below), I think this is the first one that exiles everything that died during the entire turn, both before and after resolution

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    Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
    SLyM wrote: »
    I dunno how the paper magic meta is different from arena, but cry isn't that uncommon, and the exile effect often isn't that much of an afterthought IMO. I also don't really care about competitive magic though so I have no real input

    With arena, those things are automated, which means you don't have to think about it. This kind of effect is fairly new to magic (usually these types of cards don't exile)

    and while there are sweepers that kill/exile (e.g. below), I think this is the first one that exiles everything that died during the entire turn, both before and after resolution

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    That one also does the same thing.

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    ArmorocArmoroc Registered User regular
    Phoenix-D wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    SLyM wrote: »
    I dunno how the paper magic meta is different from arena, but cry isn't that uncommon, and the exile effect often isn't that much of an afterthought IMO. I also don't really care about competitive magic though so I have no real input

    With arena, those things are automated, which means you don't have to think about it. This kind of effect is fairly new to magic (usually these types of cards don't exile)

    and while there are sweepers that kill/exile (e.g. below), I think this is the first one that exiles everything that died during the entire turn, both before and after resolution

    Image.ashx?multiverseid=373604&type=card

    That one also does the same thing.

    There's a slight difference with Cry of the Carnarium. Cry says, "if a creature would die this turn, exile it instead" or something to that effect. So even if you sacrifice a creature in response to Cry of the Carnarium, then when Cry resolves, that creature still died that turn and gets exiled instead.

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
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    Cry exiles everything that it kills, everything that died earlier that turn, and everything that dies later that turn. Anger only exiles creatures that it damaged.

    It'd be very easy to have a Cry resolve and forget to go through graveyards for something that died that turn, or to exile something that died later.

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    KayKay What we need... Is a little bit of PANIC.Registered User regular
    Autumn Burchett through to the finals, this is amazing.

    Reid Duke was so good about the game too, sad to see him knocked out, but stoked for a possible Autumn vs LSV final!

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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    Phoenix-D wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    SLyM wrote: »
    I dunno how the paper magic meta is different from arena, but cry isn't that uncommon, and the exile effect often isn't that much of an afterthought IMO. I also don't really care about competitive magic though so I have no real input

    With arena, those things are automated, which means you don't have to think about it. This kind of effect is fairly new to magic (usually these types of cards don't exile)

    and while there are sweepers that kill/exile (e.g. below), I think this is the first one that exiles everything that died during the entire turn, both before and after resolution

    Image.ashx?multiverseid=373604&type=card

    That one also does the same thing.

    To clarify why this is incorrect:

    You cast Anger, opponent sacs bodyguard to itself. It dies, then Anger hits stuff, Bodyguard is in the GY.

    You cast Cry opponent sacs bodyguard to itself. It dies, then Cry hits stuff. Bodyguard is moved to exile by Cry's exile clause. You still get a death trigger for the bodyguard if it's relevant, but it is exiled.

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    TheBlackWindTheBlackWind Registered User regular
    Ikawa vs LSV semis
    That block by LSV... woof.

    Good play by Ikawa to bait the trade.

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    Zombie HeroZombie Hero Registered User regular
    I was so close to getting to that platinum constructed, and have lost 12 in a row and im down to almost dropping to Gold 3. I can't seem to get there regardless of list.

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    TheBlackWindTheBlackWind Registered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
    hmmm they're experimenting with a new mulligan rule for Mythic Championship London (whatever that is)


    (no scrying)

    I know the format isn't Standard, but Mono-U seems like it'd REALLY benefit from this, and it's already strong.

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    TheBlackWindTheBlackWind Registered User regular
    Spoiler after G2 of finals:
    Tied up 1-1 looks terrible for Autumn here :( Esper's sideboard has a LOT of hate.

    Guess they benefit from being on the play twice though.

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    Kevin CristKevin Crist I make the devil hit his knees and say the 'our father'Registered User regular
    Finals
    Mono blue damn scary. Way to go, Autumn!

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    VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    That might be the first time I've ever seen someone tackled (well... glomped) at the end of a PT.

    A well-earned tackle, mind.

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    admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    That was an awesome finals match.

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    jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    edited February 2019
    PT/MC finals:
    So that's at least 4 firsts for Autumn, then?

    1. First non-male PT/MC winner and thereby
    2. The first enby PT/MC winner
    3. First English PT/MC winner
    4. First winner under the new "Mythic Championship" label

    Congrats to them, it was a great set of games!

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    The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
    This is maybe the most important moment in competitive magic history honestly

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    KayKay What we need... Is a little bit of PANIC.Registered User regular
    Mythic Championship Finals.
    100% of all Mythic Champions in history are trans and non-binary. 0% cis representation at the top, so far~

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    This is maybe the most important moment in competitive magic history honestly

    it's a hell of a way to start off their new OP branding at the very least

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    WhippyWhippy Moderator, Admin Emeritus Admin Emeritus
    Genuinely impressed with the language used by coverage, misgendering all of twice that I caught on the final day, and never a “him”

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    admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Whippy wrote: »
    Genuinely impressed with the language used by coverage, misgendering all of twice that I caught on the final day, and never a “him”

    Rich Hagon in particular was flawless, as far as I heard.

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    VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    admanb wrote: »
    Whippy wrote: »
    Genuinely impressed with the language used by coverage, misgendering all of twice that I caught on the final day, and never a “him”

    Rich Hagon in particular was flawless, as far as I heard.

    Given Autumn's rep at Nationals (and I assume UK GPs) I think Rich has had more time to practice.

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    KayKay What we need... Is a little bit of PANIC.Registered User regular
    The fact that Autumn hasn't had a GP Top 8 is confusing. They're an astonishingly good player. I've said hi a couple times at local GPs, but they actually used to play with some of my more local MTG friends, and thus know them better.

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    WhippyWhippy Moderator, Admin Emeritus Admin Emeritus
    admanb wrote: »
    Whippy wrote: »
    Genuinely impressed with the language used by coverage, misgendering all of twice that I caught on the final day, and never a “him”

    Rich Hagon in particular was flawless, as far as I heard.

    Bdm too. S’funny, the older guys were flawless but the younger guys dropped the “her”s. you’d think they would, as a generational consequence, be more used to a pronoun change? my lgs of choice has also been Marshall’s for the last decade(the rare fnm or prerelease he’s not traveling) and I know through personal experience he can do better, I don’t think he’s misgendered me once and we’ve played a bunch of times

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    PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    Oh then yeah the card is worded and acts differently than previous effects that have done that so I can absolutely understand not playing around it perfectly. I would have absolutely missed that if my opponent didn't correct my actions.
    Whippy wrote: »
    admanb wrote: »
    Whippy wrote: »
    Genuinely impressed with the language used by coverage, misgendering all of twice that I caught on the final day, and never a “him”

    Rich Hagon in particular was flawless, as far as I heard.

    Bdm too. S’funny, the older guys were flawless but the younger guys dropped the “her”s. you’d think they would, as a generational consequence, be more used to a pronoun change? my lgs of choice has also been Marshall’s for the last decade(the rare fnm or prerelease he’s not traveling) and I know through personal experience he can do better, I don’t think he’s misgendered me once and we’ve played a bunch of times

    I think singular 'they' may be slightly more aliwn to most as something people use in their everyday lives. I almost never use it and qould likely fuck it up a few times.

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    VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    Whippy wrote: »
    admanb wrote: »
    Whippy wrote: »
    Genuinely impressed with the language used by coverage, misgendering all of twice that I caught on the final day, and never a “him”

    Rich Hagon in particular was flawless, as far as I heard.

    Bdm too. S’funny, the older guys were flawless but the younger guys dropped the “her”s. you’d think they would, as a generational consequence, be more used to a pronoun change? my lgs of choice has also been Marshall’s for the last decade(the rare fnm or prerelease he’s not traveling) and I know through personal experience he can do better, I don’t think he’s misgendered me once and we’ve played a bunch of times

    I think singular 'they' may be slightly more aliwn to most as something people use in their everyday lives. I almost never use it and qould likely fuck it up a few times.

    This would be my guess as well. The fact that they never dropped "he/his" suggests that they got the general message down but fumbled on specifics occasionally. Live commentary is hard.

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    PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    It has occured to me that the singular they ahould be the default pronoun in my vernacular but it's hard to get my brain to accept it after 36 years of gendered pronouns. Can someone just download the new firmware into my skull? TIA

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    SLyMSLyM Registered User regular
    There's no way that this combo survives people learning about it and expecting it

    but I am having surprisingly good results with my biomancer's familiar, ruthless knave, slimefoot the stowaway infinite damage combo deck

    My friend is working on a roguelike game you can play if you want to. (It has free demo)
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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    It's a four card combo (you need two familiars to go infinite, right?) reliant on squishy creatures. You don't even need to tech against it besides the general philosophy of "kill weird suboptimal creatures because it's probably a jank combo"

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    admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    It has occured to me that the singular they ahould be the default pronoun in my vernacular but it's hard to get my brain to accept it after 36 years of gendered pronouns. Can someone just download the new firmware into my skull? TIA

    I realized a few weeks ago that I default to “he” when discussing anonymous Magic Arena players with myself* and it has been both difficult and surprisingly effective at reprogramming my brain.

    *yes I talk to myself a lot while playing Arena

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    VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    admanb wrote: »
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    It has occured to me that the singular they ahould be the default pronoun in my vernacular but it's hard to get my brain to accept it after 36 years of gendered pronouns. Can someone just download the new firmware into my skull? TIA

    I realized a few weeks ago that I default to “he” when discussing anonymous Magic Arena players with myself* and it has been both difficult and surprisingly effective at reprogramming my brain.

    *yes I talk to myself a lot while playing Arena

    I've found myself in the same situation, although usually it's via recounting good/bad beat stories and not self- dialogue.

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    AnialosAnialos Collies are love, Collies are life! Shadowbrook ColliesRegistered User regular
    I've finally saved up enough gems for a Traditional Draft in Arena. What do you guys suggest trying to draft? I know the AI prioritizes certain things so trying to draft those is futile.

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    PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    Hey guys is there another prerelease this weekend or is the thread creator extremely lazy?

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    jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    Hey guys is there another prerelease this weekend or is the thread creator extremely lazy?

    I've been grinding Pauper, I ain't got time to update thread titles!

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