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[Discworld] Who Watches The Watchmen In The Watch?

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    MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    pezgen wrote: »
    I do kind of get klemming's point, as most of the references in Pratchett's works are subtle enough that you just pass over them without realising it's a reference, instead of going "huh, I guess that's a reference to something", which might be the case for the Nevermore joke. It was certainly the case for me and the small dog / sound box gag in Soul Music - I remember thinking it must be something, but didn't make the connection until much later.

    In contrast, one of my favourite gags is the long-time rivalry between the Venturi and Selachii families. On my first read at the age of maybe 11, no gag at all, just some names. On another read, a few years later, "oh, it's a Montague/Capulet reference". On another much later read, I thought "isn't selachii something to do with sharks? I wonder what Venturi might OH YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD"

    I still don't get it? I'm missing something.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited August 2021
    The
    pezgen wrote: »
    I do kind of get klemming's point, as most of the references in Pratchett's works are subtle enough that you just pass over them without realising it's a reference, instead of going "huh, I guess that's a reference to something", which might be the case for the Nevermore joke. It was certainly the case for me and the small dog / sound box gag in Soul Music - I remember thinking it must be something, but didn't make the connection until much later.

    In contrast, one of my favourite gags is the long-time rivalry between the Venturi and Selachii families. On my first read at the age of maybe 11, no gag at all, just some names. On another read, a few years later, "oh, it's a Montague/Capulet reference". On another much later read, I thought "isn't selachii something to do with sharks? I wonder what Venturi might OH YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD"

    I still don't get it? I'm missing something.

    Sharks and Jets (technically, the Venturi effect is how instruments in an airplane operate, but that's the idea)

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    MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    I still had to look that up. West side story?

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    I still had to look that up. West side story?

    Yes. Which also works because it's the musical version of the Caps vs the Monts.

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    RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    It's literally said in Going Postal that it's a reference to the workers who went insane, of which Groat, Stanley, and eventually Moist are the last. Well, hopefully. There weren't any shootings to match the Americanism, but Chief Postal Inspector Rumbelow did destroy the entire universe all in one go, and that was just to stop the madness

    It's debatable whether Tiddles went insane

    Sterica wrote: »
    I know my last visit to my grandpa on his deathbed was to find out how the whole Nazi werewolf thing turned out.
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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    The
    pezgen wrote: »
    I do kind of get klemming's point, as most of the references in Pratchett's works are subtle enough that you just pass over them without realising it's a reference, instead of going "huh, I guess that's a reference to something", which might be the case for the Nevermore joke. It was certainly the case for me and the small dog / sound box gag in Soul Music - I remember thinking it must be something, but didn't make the connection until much later.

    In contrast, one of my favourite gags is the long-time rivalry between the Venturi and Selachii families. On my first read at the age of maybe 11, no gag at all, just some names. On another read, a few years later, "oh, it's a Montague/Capulet reference". On another much later read, I thought "isn't selachii something to do with sharks? I wonder what Venturi might OH YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD"

    I still don't get it? I'm missing something.

    Sharks and Jets (technically, the Venturi effect is how instruments in an airplane operate, but that's the idea)

    ………fuck

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    To be very clear, I only know this because I googled it the... well, not the first time I read it.

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    Jam WarriorJam Warrior Registered User regular
    I’m taking a very leisurely (like over years) re-visit to Discworld interspersed between other books, leading up to the last few DW books I never got around to when they were new.

    On to Soul Music, which I must have read a dozen times now over the years, and I only just this moment got that Glod is cleaning and redecorating everywhere they stay as an inverse of the stereotypical rock and roll hotel room trashing.

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    VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    edited November 2021
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    KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    edited November 2021
    I am getting back into Discworld. Watching the Color of Magic and reading the book.
    My book has already yellowed.
    Already noticing they edited stuff out in the movie.

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    Golden YakGolden Yak Burnished Bovine The sunny beaches of CanadaRegistered User regular
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Maurice character designs!

    Cute.

    Looking forwards to how they plan to adapt Spider.

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    KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    The Color of Magic movie gives a little different perspective.

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    RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    Krathoon wrote: »
    The Color of Magic movie gives a little different perspective.

    How so?

    Sterica wrote: »
    I know my last visit to my grandpa on his deathbed was to find out how the whole Nazi werewolf thing turned out.
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    KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    Ringo wrote: »
    Krathoon wrote: »
    The Color of Magic movie gives a little different perspective.

    How so?

    It doesn't tell how they set Ank-Morpork on fire in flashback. The book starts after the fire.

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    RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    Qh yeah, that's changing some context

    Sterica wrote: »
    I know my last visit to my grandpa on his deathbed was to find out how the whole Nazi werewolf thing turned out.
    Edcrab's Exigency RPG
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    KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    I always loved the Rincewind character. Eric Idle did a good version of him in the video games. That version would break the fourth wall.

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    Golden YakGolden Yak Burnished Bovine The sunny beaches of CanadaRegistered User regular
    Krathoon wrote: »
    I always loved the Rincewind character. Eric Idle did a good version of him in the video games. That version would break the fourth wall.

    Probably the most stick-in-the-mind line from that game comes from Rincewind, when you ask for more information regarding the door to a room.

    "Aha! Portallus exitus! Or the common doorway. See? I'm not a wizard for nothing!"

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    VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    edited November 2021
    Golden Yak wrote: »
    Krathoon wrote: »
    I always loved the Rincewind character. Eric Idle did a good version of him in the video games. That version would break the fourth wall.

    Probably the most stick-in-the-mind line from that game comes from Rincewind, when you ask for more information regarding the door to a room.

    "Aha! Portallus exitus! Or the common doorway. See? I'm not a wizard for nothing!"

    *clicks on obvious dragon shape perched on a spire in the distance*

    "A mysterious shape! Fraught with... shape-ness. (It must be a plot element, or else there'd be a better description.)"

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    klemmingklemming Registered User regular
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Golden Yak wrote: »
    Krathoon wrote: »
    I always loved the Rincewind character. Eric Idle did a good version of him in the video games. That version would break the fourth wall.

    Probably the most stick-in-the-mind line from that game comes from Rincewind, when you ask for more information regarding the door to a room.

    "Aha! Portallus exitus! Or the common doorway. See? I'm not a wizard for nothing!"

    *clicks on obvious dragon shape perched on a spire in the distance*

    "A mysterious shape! Fraught with... shape-ness. (It must be a plot element, or else there'd be a better description.)"

    "I want to be the first person in a game to say #$%&*."

    Nobody remembers the singer. The song remains.
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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    I prefer -ing, myself

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    [Expletive deleted][Expletive deleted] The mediocre doctor NorwayRegistered User regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    I prefer -ing, myself

    I prefer -ing others.

    Sic transit gloria mundi.
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    Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    So if they were to use Rincewind in the terrible Watch show, what would the call sheet look like?

    My guess is muscular asian woman who speaks in reverse order and sounds like grinding glass.

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    Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    Or an actor who is way too old to play him, just so they had an established name to throw on the ad copy...

    In non-terrible adaptation news, Narrativia are publishing a complete run of the books, with different narrators for each sub-series

    [Muffled sounds of gorilla violence]
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    David_TDavid_T A fashion yes-man is no good to me. Copenhagen, DenmarkRegistered User regular
    New audiobooks coming. Or, new recordings of existing books, I should say.
    Penguin Random House has taken on a truly ambitious project to re-record all 40 audiobooks from Sir Terry Pratchett’s bestselling Discworld series, featuring a cast of leading names from British stage and screen, with the first subseries publishing in April 2022.

    Pratchett annotated the Discworld series with his famous footnotes – essentially his own voice commenting on the story - which will be narrated by Bill Nighy, star of Love Actually and The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy. Peter Serafinowicz, star of Shaun of the Dead and Star Wars, will voice the part of Death throughout the series. Pratchett penned the most inventive descriptions for Death’s curious, hollow voice, from ‘in tones as heavy as a whale's heartbeat’ to ‘in a voice with all the warmth and colour of an iceberg’, with his speech represented in the books with small unquoted capital letters.

    The Discworld series can be divided up into subseries, with one main narrator set to voice each subseries. Game of Thrones star Indira Varma is lending her voice to the Witches books, Fleabag’s Sian Clifford is reading the Death books and Merlin’s Colin Morgan will read the Wizard books, along with Andy Serkis, star of Lord of the Rings, reading the standalone title, Small Gods, with more casting for the rest of the series still to be announced.

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    Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    I like that Peter Serafinowicz's credited roles there are Shaun of the Dead and Star Wars, when I will always remember him as the sexy voice guy from Black Books and Pelé's voice dub for those impotence adverts

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    King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    I always thought Maurice was a Black cat.
    Or an actor who is way too old to play him, just so they had an established name to throw on the ad copy...

    In non-terrible adaptation news, Narrativia are publishing a complete run of the books, with different narrators for each sub-series

    Oh god that would be rad the old audio book quality is awful

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    klemmingklemming Registered User regular
    I had the abridged cassettes growing up, so most of the cast sound like Tony Robinson in my head. All the other audiobooks just sound wrong.

    Nobody remembers the singer. The song remains.
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    autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular
    I've never actually listened to the Discworld books.

    Come to think of it, I read them all when I was pretty young and my English wasn't good enough to read everything in original English, so I read (and re-read and re-read) pretty much all of them on German, the translated version.

    I think I can combine these two facts and listen to them on English for the first time when those new audio books come out

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    Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    My first exposure to the Discworld books was the Tony Robinson Equal Rites, which I listened to while travelling to France

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    SmrtnikSmrtnik job boli zub Registered User regular
    My first exposure to the Discworld books was the Tony Robinson Equal Rites, which I listened to while travelling to France

    Mine was Thud!, also read on an airplane.

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    autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular
    edited November 2021
    Mine was "the color of magic" I bought in a real book shop in like 1994 after a school friend recommended it glowingly

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    Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    Feet of Clay. Gifted to me by a friend.

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    ChiselphaneChiselphane Registered User regular
    Showing my age but mine was Mort via the Sci Fi Book of the Month club.

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    TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    I think the first one I read was Faust Eric, or Witches Abroad that I found in my highschool library freshman year.

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    DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    I remember it quite well, me and a friend were in a chapters browsing the Fantasy section and I saw a row of Discworld books. I was intrigued by the bizarre cover art of the book, i couldn't make any sense of it so I picked a random page and read:
    "You asked me to design a fish that would swim through the seas of space that lie between the worlds,"
    intoned the master craftsman. "In return for which - in return-"
    "Yes? My memory is not what it used to be," purred the Arch-astronomer, stroking the warm bronze.
    "In return," continued Dactylos, without much apparent hope, "you would set me free, and refrain from
    chopping off any appendages. I require no treasure."
    "Ah, yes. I recall now." The old man raised a blueveined hand, and added, "I lied."
    There was the merest whisper of sound, and the goldeneyed man rocked on his feet. Then he looked
    down at the arrowhead protruding from his chest, and nodded wearily. A speck of blood bloomed on his
    lips.
    There was no sound in the entire square (save for the buzzing of a few expectant flies) as his silver hand
    came up, very slowly, and fingered the arrowhead.
    Dactylos grunted.
    "Sloppy workmanship," he said, and toppled backwards.

    I knew right there that I was going to love this book.

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    OldSlackerOldSlacker Registered User regular
    My first introduction to Discworld was, unfortunately, a truly terrible Croatian translation of Colour of Magic which managed to put me off giving Pratchett another shot for a long while.
    I finally got into them proper when a friend accidentally bought play versions of Mort and Guards! Guards!, and basically read them to me during lunch breaks.

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    autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular
    The German translation was pretty good luckily

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    see317see317 Registered User regular
    Showing my age but mine was Mort via the Sci Fi Book of the Month club.

    I got a Rincewind omnibus from one of those as my intro to Discworld.
    I still have it on my bookshelf.

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    monikermoniker Registered User regular
    The German translation was pretty good luckily

    I heard it really encapsulated Sir Terry's love of soup.

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