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[Magic The Gathering: Arena] The CCG that started it all, now F2P. New set incoming

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    SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    Been playing since Weatherlight, figured I'd finally get around to playing Arena. Boy there sure are a lot of Ajani Pridemate decks running around. Feels like the era of Perilous Myr on Origins all over again.

    Anyway, threw together a U/G deck that hyper accelerates into a huge creature as soon as possible and its been getting results.

    Mtgtop8.com is a solid site for seeing popular current meta decks.

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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    I prefer MTGGoldfish just because it's not ugly as sin, but Top 8 is better at seeing where the decks were played and how they did, yeah.

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    SurfpossumSurfpossum A nonentity trying to preserve the anonymity he so richly deserves.Registered User regular
    I've been playing video games the entire latter half of today so why not play some Magic.

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    This pile of garbage is somehow 4-0 right now.
    One game we both kept two land hands but I was better at video games and drew more while they didn't, and another game they... miscounted the damage and just died instead of blocking correctly and killing me the next turn.

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    Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    I was playing a zombie deck against another zombie deck and was down 20 to 1 after just barely saving myself with Skullduggery

    I managed to wipe his creatures and get a few of my own down, and then he got manascrewed three times in a row and I took the game. All the way from 20 to 1.

    Zombies forever

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    SurfpossumSurfpossum A nonentity trying to preserve the anonymity he so richly deserves.Registered User regular
    edited January 2019
    Surfpossum wrote: »
    I've been playing video games the entire latter half of today so why not play some Magic.

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    This pile of garbage is somehow 4-0 right now.
    One game we both kept two land hands but I was better at video games and drew more while they didn't, and another game they... miscounted the damage and just died instead of blocking correctly and killing me the next turn.
    ...7-0.

    Turning creatures sideways is rull good apparently. I started this draft going blue white, then blue white red, and then near the end of pack two was like screw it let's go green. Why did this work.

    e: upon further reflection on how basically every card in this did work in every game, I guess it might actually be... good? The ability to constantly apply pressure, with some cards that also work late game and the lordly bomb Spineback, was just too much for a lot of decks to handle. The Conquistadors were surprisingly effective at this; one in the opening hand guaranteed several turns of dropping 2/2s on their face if there was nothing better to do. And all their removal became worthless. Go ahead, Luminous Bond that Conquistador, I ain't playing anything better for another two turns. Oh, another one? Big deal, I got bears coming out my ass, son.

    What a silly bunch of games.

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    discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    1-3 at dino draft.
    I'm bad at dino draft.
    Perhaps shouldn't have gone W/R with a slight G.
    I've always only dual-colour drafted before.
    But Zacama, who never showed, needed green...

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    cncaudatacncaudata Registered User regular
    discrider wrote: »
    1-3 at dino draft.
    I'm bad at dino draft.
    Perhaps shouldn't have gone W/R with a slight G.
    I've always only dual-colour drafted before.
    But Zacama, who never showed, needed green...

    Dinosaurs is quite strong, however...

    R/G with forerunner is quite strong, has good early and mid game, and can support some bombs. I think when this is open it's one of the best decks there is.

    White really only has rares and suncrested pterodon. I have done ok with W/G but found the early game rather tough, and without red, you can't turn on the enrage stuff.

    W/R on the other hand I think misses out on way too much with green, and if you think W/R dinosaurs is open and you're not seeing green, you probably just made a mistake and it's not actually open.

    Overall dinos are great in general because there are so many board stalls or 2/3's around and you can often just attack into them. You just still need an ok curve, removal, etc to make it work.

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    nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    Been playing since Weatherlight, figured I'd finally get around to playing Arena. Boy there sure are a lot of Ajani Pridemate decks running around. Feels like the era of Perilous Myr on Origins all over again.

    Anyway, threw together a U/G deck that hyper accelerates into a huge creature as soon as possible and its been getting results.

    Those lifegain decks seemed popular in thew lower ranks then they vanish

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    WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    Booted Arena up again for a couple of games. In anticipation for the next set, I guess. My Green deck still does what I want it to do (ramp into big creatures) and my Boros deck either stomps the opponent in a few rounds or bricks entirely.

    Anyways, I see there's an unranked mode now as well? If that's the place where people play their fun jank decks without being too concerned about beating the meta or wherever, I guess that's where I'll spend most of my time.

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    Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    Shalai plus a bunch of make target creature indestructible cards is hilarious against Thousand Year Storm decks. I think she took like 40 damage total.

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    21stCentury21stCentury Call me Pixel, or Pix for short! [They/Them]Registered User regular
    i can't believe it took them, like, 5 months AFTER launch for MTGA to have a funcitonal ranking system.

    but i'm thankful it's in, i can finally climb the ranks. I'm at Silver 2 already!!!!! :U :U :U

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    nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    I built a RG Dino deck for fun

    Major creature domination but suffer from a lack of hard removal

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    MyiagrosMyiagros Registered User regular
    I've been playing a super janky Rakdos land destruction and discard deck and it's glorious.

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    Because if you're going to attempt to squeeze that big black monster into your slot you will need to be able to take at least 12 inches or else you're going to have a bad time...
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    Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    edited January 2019
    Momir's Madness is a deeply silly game mode and I love it
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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    You must have gotten real unlucky to go Zacama hunting and not get any red lands to play

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    Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    The real luck was the double Verdant Forces once he started spitting out those wurms

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    discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    0-3 pirate draft.
    Ixalan has some fun looking cards but all tri-color :/

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    KayKay What we need... Is a little bit of PANIC.Registered User regular
    Beckett Brass and Zacama?

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    discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    edited January 2019
    No.. just dual colour pirates in blue/black, black/red, and then pirates I want to play in all those colours.
    Went black with the mill enchantment, on attack things, red utility and blue counters, and got rolled.
    Third game could have won, but didn't get the last land/treasure I needed to drop the black dino with prey counters to board wipe.
    (across three turns)

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    SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    Made it to Platinum rank 1 last night. Hoping I can hit diamond before the new set hits, i'm so close! I'd also like to get to mythic but doing that before what, wednesday? Is gonna be tricky.

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    BizazedoBizazedo Registered User regular
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    Made it to Platinum rank 1 last night. Hoping I can hit diamond before the new set hits, i'm so close! I'd also like to get to mythic but doing that before what, wednesday? Is gonna be tricky.

    What're you running? I do well until I don't and lose everything.

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    SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    edited January 2019
    Bizazedo wrote: »
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    Made it to Platinum rank 1 last night. Hoping I can hit diamond before the new set hits, i'm so close! I'd also like to get to mythic but doing that before what, wednesday? Is gonna be tricky.

    What're you running? I do well until I don't and lose everything.

    White weenie aggro. Hunted Witness, Adanto Vanguard, a few of the convoke loxodon, Pride of Conquerers, Snub..horn?nose? that 0/3 that gets +3/0 with ascend. The 2/1 flyer with ascend. @milski and the internet recommended running Squire's Devotion, that enchant that adds +1/+1, lifelink, and makes a 1/1 token and that's been working shockingly well. Oh and Legion's Landing is paramount

    If golgari starts showing up more heavily I have two of those Tocatli things to slot in. It has been fun, but it's definitely a grind. Just have to win more than I lose! It took me 3 hours to go from the bottom of rank 4 to the bottom of rank 1.

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    FiskebentFiskebent DenmarkRegistered User regular
    i can't believe it took them, like, 5 months AFTER launch for MTGA to have a funcitonal ranking system.

    but i'm thankful it's in, i can finally climb the ranks. I'm at Silver 2 already!!!!! :U :U :U
    To be fair, the game is still labeled as a beta. It's just such a good beta that people tend to forget that sometimes.

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    EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    Made it to Gold 2 and that was with rather casual play.

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    do we know when the rank rewards kick in?

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    SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
    do we know when the rank rewards kick in?

    In 16-17 days or so. If you click "Profile" in the game it'll show you time till the current "season" ends.

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    useruser Registered User regular
    I gotta say the rank rewards seem very thrifty compared to what you can earn in a weekend of Constructed Event. So to my thinking it's somewhat unusual that CE isn't ranked.

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    SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    Supposedly we'll start getting some fun cosmetic rewards and stuff for the ranked but yeah 5 packs and a thousand gold for mythic rank which takes many many games to reach is not a great reward. I'm having fun streaming and shooting for the goal at least.

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    BizazedoBizazedo Registered User regular
    The interesting bit is apparently you get rewards for *both* ranked statuses? i.e., Limited and Constructed play?

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    SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    Bizazedo wrote: »
    The interesting bit is apparently you get rewards for *both* ranked statuses? i.e., Limited and Constructed play?

    Yup they're separate rankings! Your constructed and limited rank are different.

    Limited seems a bit pricier to get up high though.

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    Well, there's no way to play limited for free.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Well, there's no way to play limited for free.

    There is. You use gold to play in settings where gems are the reward and then you spend those gems on gem only stuff.

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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    I think they meant free as in "without entry cost" not free as in "without spending money."

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Oh.

    Well.

    Yeah.

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    SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    edited January 2019
    https://youtu.be/NAc7Z3u78L8

    Duplicate rare or mythic cards will TURN INTO GEMS! HELL YEAH

    CE events will keep ICRs but the upgrade rate will change

    RNA gold draft starts Feb 1st with season 2 of ranked

    You can rank up through BO3 in season 2

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    furbatfurbat Registered User regular
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    Supposedly we'll start getting some fun cosmetic rewards and stuff for the ranked but yeah 5 packs and a thousand gold for mythic rank which takes many many games to reach is not a great reward. I'm having fun streaming and shooting for the goal at least.

    Trying to get people to play on a ladder over the events seems like a giant step backwards to me. Adding ranks to Bo1 draft when it's less EV than buying packs with gold at 50% is an even larger step backwards.

    There is a lot of grumbing about it on reddit, but I don't think Bo1 drafting is nearly as popular as CE is so I doubt it will change.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    That's some good changes, wow.

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    SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    edited January 2019
    furbat wrote: »
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    Supposedly we'll start getting some fun cosmetic rewards and stuff for the ranked but yeah 5 packs and a thousand gold for mythic rank which takes many many games to reach is not a great reward. I'm having fun streaming and shooting for the goal at least.

    Trying to get people to play on a ladder over the events seems like a giant step backwards to me. Adding ranks to Bo1 draft when it's less EV than buying packs with gold at 50% is an even larger step backwards.

    There is a lot of grumbing about it on reddit, but I don't think Bo1 drafting is nearly as popular as CE is so I doubt it will change.

    That's probably solely because BO1 drafting is more expensive.

    I wouldn't be surprised if the constructed events eventually went away entirely and were only replaced by the ranked system. They aren't adding ranks to BO1 draft, it already has it?

    Also I still dispute the EV is lower drafting. You get cards you want, you get to play the actual game, you win packs and gems to continue drafting, etc. Buying packs means you're done. Drafting means you get packs and might get to go again if you're decent. Especially since dupes turn into gems now

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    furbatfurbat Registered User regular
    edited January 2019
    Hmmm, ICRs got nerfed fairly hard. The 33% chance for rares to become mythics did seem a bit too much. Now it is 12.5% and uncommons go to rares at 5%. Also no rare at 4 wins. For less than 4 wins you are rarely going to see a rare card. Before you'd likely see one even at 3 wins and possibly even mythics.

    The real question will be if the EV is better than packs at a 45-50% winrate. If not then it will kill the format. I suspect though that the changes are not severe enough to do that and it still beneficial to play at 50% win rate.

    I've been averaging 12 mythics a week from rewards, this will probably lower it to 5 assuming there isn't an exodus from the format.

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    LucedesLucedes might be real Registered User regular
    i would phantom draft to raise limited rank, i guess, if they made that a ladder to climb.
    normal drafting is too pricey for me to play enough games to change that a lot.

    but uh tbh right now i want my limited rank to be really low,
    so that i can fight people who are bad at magic and win great prizes.

    while it matches based on rank, why would you ever want a high rank?
    money is way better than prestige.

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