I felt like he really embraced the internet I enjoyed, where it was all interesting musings and weird shit he found, composed into blog posts on a keyboard and his telephone from a smoky pub
the whole idea of blogs seems weirdly quaint now but I miss them
"oh, there's a place where interesting people talk at length about subjects relevant to me? neat!"
the purity of that ideal has devolved into the reality of the 300-installment tweetstorm and I feel something has been lost
The internet's initial promise really faded away quite quickly once it transpired that people are terrible.
ruby is used in ruby on rails which is a popular framework for startups because it allows you to get a product to market pretty quickly
and then burst into flame and die as soon as they try to scale it
or a user does something even slightly unexpected
or a moth flutters though the server room
or the servers uptime hits 5 whole minutes and that can't be allowed so it just self immolates
The QA engineer is fired, the architect is paid to build another bar
I'm not defending management tier bros but I'm tentatively comfortable firing QA if the shipped software fails in the main use case
And yet not the dude that delivered a program that fails the main use case.
i guess you want both to be fired?
i could construct a situation where QA should not be, if they reported it constantly and nobody did anything, or where the architect should not be, if it was designed right and worked for most of the development and a late Changelist broke the main feature and QA never noticed
we don't even have an actual issue to discuss i was just thrown by your comment because it seemed as if you were suggesting QA was probably innocent in most cases of catastrophic launch and I think that's a tough sell
I want neither fired. Everyone makes mistakes, including the QA. Why I have to be perfect while all the people I'm propping up can be total fuckups will always be infuriating.
Im mostly just grousing cause i have a release coming up tomorrow that not a single change was properly logged for. Im essentially confirming central functionality and rolling the dice cause I can't know all of what has actually changed, where, or how.
I felt like he really embraced the internet I enjoyed, where it was all interesting musings and weird shit he found, composed into blog posts on a keyboard and his telephone from a smoky pub
the whole idea of blogs seems weirdly quaint now but I miss them
"oh, there's a place where interesting people talk at length about subjects relevant to me? neat!"
the purity of that ideal has devolved into the reality of the 300-installment tweetstorm and I feel something has been lost
The internet's initial promise really faded away quite quickly once it transpired that people are terrible.
We spent all of the internet magic points on Wikipedia.
I mean it has it's problems but there's no way that experiment should've worked at all.
life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
I felt like he really embraced the internet I enjoyed, where it was all interesting musings and weird shit he found, composed into blog posts on a keyboard and his telephone from a smoky pub
the whole idea of blogs seems weirdly quaint now but I miss them
"oh, there's a place where interesting people talk at length about subjects relevant to me? neat!"
the purity of that ideal has devolved into the reality of the 300-installment tweetstorm and I feel something has been lost
Let me respond to this.
1 of 2002 Twitter is an evocative...
Preacher on
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
I felt like he really embraced the internet I enjoyed, where it was all interesting musings and weird shit he found, composed into blog posts on a keyboard and his telephone from a smoky pub
the whole idea of blogs seems weirdly quaint now but I miss them
"oh, there's a place where interesting people talk at length about subjects relevant to me? neat!"
the purity of that ideal has devolved into the reality of the 300-installment tweetstorm and I feel something has been lost
The word dates back to the very beginning of modern Japan, the Meiji era (1868-1912) and has its origins in a pun. Tsundoku, which literally means reading pile, is written in Japanese as 積ん読. Tsunde oku means to let something pile up and is written 積んでおく. Some wag around the turn of the century swapped out that oku (おく) in tsunde oku for doku (読) – meaning to read. Then since tsunde doku is hard to say, the word got mushed together to form tsundoku.
ruby is used in ruby on rails which is a popular framework for startups because it allows you to get a product to market pretty quickly
and then burst into flame and die as soon as they try to scale it
or a user does something even slightly unexpected
or a moth flutters though the server room
or the servers uptime hits 5 whole minutes and that can't be allowed so it just self immolates
The QA engineer is fired, the architect is paid to build another bar
I'm not defending management tier bros but I'm tentatively comfortable firing QA if the shipped software fails in the main use case
And yet not the dude that delivered a program that fails the main use case.
i guess you want both to be fired?
i could construct a situation where QA should not be, if they reported it constantly and nobody did anything, or where the architect should not be, if it was designed right and worked for most of the development and a late Changelist broke the main feature and QA never noticed
we don't even have an actual issue to discuss i was just thrown by your comment because it seemed as if you were suggesting QA was probably innocent in most cases of catastrophic launch and I think that's a tough sell
I want neither fired. Everyone makes mistakes, including the QA. Why I have to be perfect while all the people I'm propping up can be total fuckups will always be infuriating.
Im mostly just grousing cause i have a release coming up tomorrow that not a single change was properly logged for. Im essentially confirming central functionality and rolling the dice cause I can't know what has actually changed, where, or how.
yeah almost all software QA is unempowered and structured to guarantee failure
as practiced it's a stupid waste of time
I've known some gifted practitioners and it's interesting to see how they react to the bullshit
One workaholic complained to he boyfriend in tears that another had checked out and stopped contributing, but the guy kept collecting a paycheck same as if he'd been busting his ass for 18 months before he moved to greener pastures?
I felt like he really embraced the internet I enjoyed, where it was all interesting musings and weird shit he found, composed into blog posts on a keyboard and his telephone from a smoky pub
the whole idea of blogs seems weirdly quaint now but I miss them
"oh, there's a place where interesting people talk at length about subjects relevant to me? neat!"
the purity of that ideal has devolved into the reality of the 300-installment tweetstorm and I feel something has been lost
The internet's initial promise really faded away quite quickly once it transpired that people are terrible.
We spent all of the internet magic points on Wikipedia.
I mean it has it's problems but there's no way that experiment should've worked at all.
Well Wikipedia is held together entirely by sad nerds who spend all of their time editing, so there's still time for it to collapse
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I felt like he really embraced the internet I enjoyed, where it was all interesting musings and weird shit he found, composed into blog posts on a keyboard and his telephone from a smoky pub
the whole idea of blogs seems weirdly quaint now but I miss them
"oh, there's a place where interesting people talk at length about subjects relevant to me? neat!"
the purity of that ideal has devolved into the reality of the 300-installment tweetstorm and I feel something has been lost
The internet's initial promise really faded away quite quickly once it transpired that people are terrible.
We spent all of the internet magic points on Wikipedia.
I mean it has it's problems but there's no way that experiment should've worked at all.
Well Wikipedia is held together entirely by sad nerds who spend all of their time editing, so there's still time for it to collapse
are you implying we’ll ever run out of sad nerds with nitpicking obsessions because
This is kind of insane. This is a 44 mile wide open pit coal mine in Germany.
Germany is setting a literal date to end all use of coal in the country but even so the mind is expanding and has destroyed towns completely as it goes. When they are done 12 villages will be destroyed and 5,800 people will be relocated for a mine that has a shutdown date coming.
I felt like he really embraced the internet I enjoyed, where it was all interesting musings and weird shit he found, composed into blog posts on a keyboard and his telephone from a smoky pub
the whole idea of blogs seems weirdly quaint now but I miss them
"oh, there's a place where interesting people talk at length about subjects relevant to me? neat!"
the purity of that ideal has devolved into the reality of the 300-installment tweetstorm and I feel something has been lost
The internet's initial promise really faded away quite quickly once it transpired that people are terrible.
We spent all of the internet magic points on Wikipedia.
I mean it has it's problems but there's no way that experiment should've worked at all.
Well Wikipedia is held together entirely by sad nerds who spend all of their time editing, so there's still time for it to collapse
are you implying we’ll ever run out of sad nerds with nitpicking obsessions because
We have what you might refer to as "free-roaming" robots.
Every location that is potentially co-habitable has policy that puts the onus of safety is on the human and barring a catastrophic mechanical failure any accident is the fault of a human.
ruby is used in ruby on rails which is a popular framework for startups because it allows you to get a product to market pretty quickly
and then burst into flame and die as soon as they try to scale it
or a user does something even slightly unexpected
or a moth flutters though the server room
or the servers uptime hits 5 whole minutes and that can't be allowed so it just self immolates
The QA engineer is fired, the architect is paid to build another bar
I'm not defending management tier bros but I'm tentatively comfortable firing QA if the shipped software fails in the main use case
And yet not the dude that delivered a program that fails the main use case.
i guess you want both to be fired?
i could construct a situation where QA should not be, if they reported it constantly and nobody did anything, or where the architect should not be, if it was designed right and worked for most of the development and a late Changelist broke the main feature and QA never noticed
we don't even have an actual issue to discuss i was just thrown by your comment because it seemed as if you were suggesting QA was probably innocent in most cases of catastrophic launch and I think that's a tough sell
I want neither fired. Everyone makes mistakes, including the QA. Why I have to be perfect while all the people I'm propping up can be total fuckups will always be infuriating.
Im mostly just grousing cause i have a release coming up tomorrow that not a single change was properly logged for. Im essentially confirming central functionality and rolling the dice cause I can't know what has actually changed, where, or how.
yeah almost all software QA is unempowered and structured to guarantee failure
as practiced it's a stupid waste of time
I've known some gifted practitioners and it's interesting to see how they react to the bullshit
One workaholic complained to he boyfriend in tears that another had checked out and stopped contributing, but the guy kept collecting a paycheck same as if he'd been busting his ass for 18 months before he moved to greener pastures?
Needless to say im like a fuckin judo master of throwing people under buses.
I mean i have a nervous break about every 2 years from all the stress but i've gotten used to it at this point.
I felt like he really embraced the internet I enjoyed, where it was all interesting musings and weird shit he found, composed into blog posts on a keyboard and his telephone from a smoky pub
the whole idea of blogs seems weirdly quaint now but I miss them
"oh, there's a place where interesting people talk at length about subjects relevant to me? neat!"
the purity of that ideal has devolved into the reality of the 300-installment tweetstorm and I feel something has been lost
The internet's initial promise really faded away quite quickly once it transpired that people are terrible.
We spent all of the internet magic points on Wikipedia.
I mean it has it's problems but there's no way that experiment should've worked at all.
Well Wikipedia is held together entirely by sad nerds who spend all of their time editing, so there's still time for it to collapse
are you implying we’ll ever run out of sad nerds with nitpicking obsessions because
I felt like he really embraced the internet I enjoyed, where it was all interesting musings and weird shit he found, composed into blog posts on a keyboard and his telephone from a smoky pub
the whole idea of blogs seems weirdly quaint now but I miss them
"oh, there's a place where interesting people talk at length about subjects relevant to me? neat!"
the purity of that ideal has devolved into the reality of the 300-installment tweetstorm and I feel something has been lost
The internet's initial promise really faded away quite quickly once it transpired that people are terrible.
We spent all of the internet magic points on Wikipedia.
I mean it has it's problems but there's no way that experiment should've worked at all.
Well Wikipedia is held together entirely by sad nerds who spend all of their time editing, so there's still time for it to collapse
are you implying we’ll ever run out of sad nerds with nitpicking obsessions because
I worked at a place where the QA was a literal cargo cult.
Some competent devs had written tests and automation suites years and years ago. Then those devs all moved on, QA got subcontracted, then outsourced. The testers had no idea what the tests did, or what it meant when they failed, and certainly did nothing to update them as the product changed. I was in a team that managed (among other things) physical test boxes. We'd just reinstall the OS on these as they were destroyed by the tests, which were marked as hardware failure and no bugs filed. Other tests never did a thing because the parts of the product they were testing no longer existed, the default values it returned were enough to pass.
Millions and millions of dollars wasted on this whole system.
And people say the government is full of inefficiency.
life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
I don't think it is unreasonable to think some people just edit wikipedia as a hobby and aren't smelly basement trolls.
Sure they do, but the overwhelming majority of edits are by a handful of users. And (suprise) the overwhelming majority of those are white males
According to?
Not snarking, just wondering where this data claim is coming from.
and I wonder about my neighbors even though I don't have them
but they're listening to every word I say
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ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered Userregular
they have a thing now where electrical signals can simulate taste so it’s only a matter of time before robust smell-o-vision is a reality we can all enjoy
I worked at a place where the QA was a literal cargo cult.
Some competent devs had written tests and automation suites years and years ago. Then those devs all moved on, QA got subcontracted, then outsourced. The testers had no idea what the tests did, or what it meant when they failed, and certainly did nothing to update them as the product changed. I was in a team that managed (among other things) physical test boxes. We'd just reinstall the OS on these as they were destroyed by the tests, which were marked as hardware failure and no bugs filed. Other tests never did a thing because the parts of the product they were testing no longer existed, the default values it returned were enough to pass.
Millions and millions of dollars wasted on this whole system.
And people say the government is full of inefficiency.
A few months ago, right before i moved to this department, an engineer was ordered to manually shave plastic off some power cords so they could fit into desktop PCs, because they had a little nub and were for something else
he spent 6 hours in one day doing this producing 10 power cords
this is someone who makes over 100k a year and power cords cost around a dollar
Whenever anyone gives government excessive shit or refers to the free market as lean and efficient I wonder if they've ever actually had a job before
they have a thing now where electrical signals can simulate taste so it’s only a matter of time before robust smell-o-vision is a reality we can all enjoy
Let's get high on soma and go to the feelies
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I worked at a place where the QA was a literal cargo cult.
Some competent devs had written tests and automation suites years and years ago. Then those devs all moved on, QA got subcontracted, then outsourced. The testers had no idea what the tests did, or what it meant when they failed, and certainly did nothing to update them as the product changed. I was in a team that managed (among other things) physical test boxes. We'd just reinstall the OS on these as they were destroyed by the tests, which were marked as hardware failure and no bugs filed. Other tests never did a thing because the parts of the product they were testing no longer existed, the default values it returned were enough to pass.
Millions and millions of dollars wasted on this whole system.
And people say the government is full of inefficiency.
My wife works for a major insurer. They constantly add new systems and programs, but things aren't unified into a clear and cohesive system. Rather than fix it they just train people to use an increasing amount of systems. More than any one person can keep straight. So they constantly screw things up and have to spend tons more in labor to fix it. But they won't fix the IT systems because that would cost a lot.
All they see is the upfront price tag.
and I wonder about my neighbors even though I don't have them
but they're listening to every word I say
I worked at a place where the QA was a literal cargo cult.
Some competent devs had written tests and automation suites years and years ago. Then those devs all moved on, QA got subcontracted, then outsourced. The testers had no idea what the tests did, or what it meant when they failed, and certainly did nothing to update them as the product changed. I was in a team that managed (among other things) physical test boxes. We'd just reinstall the OS on these as they were destroyed by the tests, which were marked as hardware failure and no bugs filed. Other tests never did a thing because the parts of the product they were testing no longer existed, the default values it returned were enough to pass.
Millions and millions of dollars wasted on this whole system.
And people say the government is full of inefficiency.
When we started outsourcing our contractors for QA to some firm in India, this is basically what happened. I was leading a team of them remotely, and they'd send back a lot of nonsensical things that followed our test cases to the letter, but were nonetheless worthless. The worst part is that I had to regress all of their issues to make sure that it actually happened on our hardware, and 90% of their issues were nothingburgers. Ugh.
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Not to spill the tea, but this chat is on fleek, bae
“I was quick when I came in here, I’m twice as quick now”
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
I worked at a place where the QA was a literal cargo cult.
Some competent devs had written tests and automation suites years and years ago. Then those devs all moved on, QA got subcontracted, then outsourced. The testers had no idea what the tests did, or what it meant when they failed, and certainly did nothing to update them as the product changed. I was in a team that managed (among other things) physical test boxes. We'd just reinstall the OS on these as they were destroyed by the tests, which were marked as hardware failure and no bugs filed. Other tests never did a thing because the parts of the product they were testing no longer existed, the default values it returned were enough to pass.
Millions and millions of dollars wasted on this whole system.
And people say the government is full of inefficiency.
Automation as a replacement for competent QA is literally my favorite fuckup to watch. Automation as QA is great if you're never gonna change your system... but uh given there's devs making changes we need to test... some folks are probably gonna need to update the automation, and just having the other dev on the project do it is... problematic at best (there's a reason we're here to check their work).
It's hilarious the lengths most places will go to in order to not pay for quality assurance.
Corporations are always pushing metrics without any regard to what pressure to change a single metric means on the ground. Calls need to be shorter! Food needs to come out faster! Labor cost needs to be lower!
JebusUD on
and I wonder about my neighbors even though I don't have them
but they're listening to every word I say
Corporations are always pushing metrics without any regard to what pressure to change a single metric means on the ground. Calls need to be shorter! Food needs to come out faster! Labor cost needs to be lower!
Oh as QA metrics are my favorite. Nothing like a ticket that takes 10 minutes to code and a week and a half to test.
I worked at a place where the QA was a literal cargo cult.
Some competent devs had written tests and automation suites years and years ago. Then those devs all moved on, QA got subcontracted, then outsourced. The testers had no idea what the tests did, or what it meant when they failed, and certainly did nothing to update them as the product changed. I was in a team that managed (among other things) physical test boxes. We'd just reinstall the OS on these as they were destroyed by the tests, which were marked as hardware failure and no bugs filed. Other tests never did a thing because the parts of the product they were testing no longer existed, the default values it returned were enough to pass.
Millions and millions of dollars wasted on this whole system.
And people say the government is full of inefficiency.
Automation as a replacement for competent QA is literally my favorite fuckup to watch. Automation as QA is great if you're never gonna change your system... but uh given there's devs making changes we need to test... some folks are probably gonna need to update the automation, and just having the other dev on the project do it is... problematic at best (there's a reason we're here to check their work).
It's hilarious the lengths most places will go to in order to not pay for quality assurance.
Its funny I work for the government as a contractor and one of the big things is our QA. Two QA teams, the dev and one we run directly for the gov.
Still find shit, and the dev code is crap but QA catches 99% of the terrible bad bugs before they go anywhere.
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and only 1 of those times was I wearing chainmail (tomorrow! excited!)
The internet's initial promise really faded away quite quickly once it transpired that people are terrible.
I want neither fired. Everyone makes mistakes, including the QA. Why I have to be perfect while all the people I'm propping up can be total fuckups will always be infuriating.
Im mostly just grousing cause i have a release coming up tomorrow that not a single change was properly logged for. Im essentially confirming central functionality and rolling the dice cause I can't know all of what has actually changed, where, or how.
We spent all of the internet magic points on Wikipedia.
I mean it has it's problems but there's no way that experiment should've worked at all.
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
Let me respond to this.
1 of 2002 Twitter is an evocative...
pleasepaypreacher.net
OH SHIT
an authentic chill crept down my spine just now
“Tsundoku,” the Japanese Word for the New Books That Pile Up on Our Shelves, Should Enter the English Language
yeah almost all software QA is unempowered and structured to guarantee failure
as practiced it's a stupid waste of time
I've known some gifted practitioners and it's interesting to see how they react to the bullshit
One workaholic complained to he boyfriend in tears that another had checked out and stopped contributing, but the guy kept collecting a paycheck same as if he'd been busting his ass for 18 months before he moved to greener pastures?
are you implying we’ll ever run out of sad nerds with nitpicking obsessions because
Germany is setting a literal date to end all use of coal in the country but even so the mind is expanding and has destroyed towns completely as it goes. When they are done 12 villages will be destroyed and 5,800 people will be relocated for a mine that has a shutdown date coming.
Its nuts.
WashPo story on this
The mine is suppose to done expanding and such in 2045, almost a decade after Germany may end all use of coal.
https://en.wikipedia.or/List_of_sad_nerds_with_nitpicking_obsessions
We have what you might refer to as "free-roaming" robots.
Every location that is potentially co-habitable has policy that puts the onus of safety is on the human and barring a catastrophic mechanical failure any accident is the fault of a human.
Needless to say im like a fuckin judo master of throwing people under buses.
I mean i have a nervous break about every 2 years from all the stress but i've gotten used to it at this point.
but they're listening to every word I say
everyone is a smelly basement nerd
Someday I will be a smelly whole house troll
*stares longingly out of basement window*
Gimme your lunch money nerd! Now make like a tree and get outta here!
but they're listening to every word I say
may i just say how disappointed i am the “opting out” section isn’t a list of names
You should add smell-o-vision to your twitch stream.
but they're listening to every word I say
Some competent devs had written tests and automation suites years and years ago. Then those devs all moved on, QA got subcontracted, then outsourced. The testers had no idea what the tests did, or what it meant when they failed, and certainly did nothing to update them as the product changed. I was in a team that managed (among other things) physical test boxes. We'd just reinstall the OS on these as they were destroyed by the tests, which were marked as hardware failure and no bugs filed. Other tests never did a thing because the parts of the product they were testing no longer existed, the default values it returned were enough to pass.
Millions and millions of dollars wasted on this whole system.
And people say the government is full of inefficiency.
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
A DC spiderman movie
Spiderman grabs Kingpin
throws him 2 miles away into a building where he explodes into a mass of gore
credits roll
According to?
Not snarking, just wondering where this data claim is coming from.
but they're listening to every word I say
A few months ago, right before i moved to this department, an engineer was ordered to manually shave plastic off some power cords so they could fit into desktop PCs, because they had a little nub and were for something else
he spent 6 hours in one day doing this producing 10 power cords
this is someone who makes over 100k a year and power cords cost around a dollar
Whenever anyone gives government excessive shit or refers to the free market as lean and efficient I wonder if they've ever actually had a job before
Let's get high on soma and go to the feelies
Drupal 8 using a composer build in a docker container, running headless for a cluster of node angular front ends.
@Feral
All the strength of the Drupal auth gateway, content, taxonomy, etc - and PHP becomes liquid fast architecture and not front end pain.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
ehhhh
ehhhhh
no
My wife works for a major insurer. They constantly add new systems and programs, but things aren't unified into a clear and cohesive system. Rather than fix it they just train people to use an increasing amount of systems. More than any one person can keep straight. So they constantly screw things up and have to spend tons more in labor to fix it. But they won't fix the IT systems because that would cost a lot.
All they see is the upfront price tag.
but they're listening to every word I say
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
Automation as a replacement for competent QA is literally my favorite fuckup to watch. Automation as QA is great if you're never gonna change your system... but uh given there's devs making changes we need to test... some folks are probably gonna need to update the automation, and just having the other dev on the project do it is... problematic at best (there's a reason we're here to check their work).
It's hilarious the lengths most places will go to in order to not pay for quality assurance.
but they're listening to every word I say
Oh as QA metrics are my favorite. Nothing like a ticket that takes 10 minutes to code and a week and a half to test.
Why aren't you clearing more tickets!?
Its funny I work for the government as a contractor and one of the big things is our QA. Two QA teams, the dev and one we run directly for the gov.
Still find shit, and the dev code is crap but QA catches 99% of the terrible bad bugs before they go anywhere.