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Thanks for all the feedback. The mini is out of the running anyway--either I misread the listing (possible?) or they updated/corrected it, because it has twice as many miles as I had thought. I'm planning to look at the Cruze (and anything comparable on the lot) later today. I appreciate all the responses.
As someone who's never owned one but always coveted one, you are all absolutely breaking my heart with this Mini knowledge, I need you to know.
they're badass you just have to treat them the way most people treat BMWs... which is to lease them, drive the shit out of it, then hand it back and never look back
i had mine for barely 4 years, loved it, loved the engine, loved the manual, loved the handling, it was very practical despite its size, the interior is really well done, its stylish... i'd get complimented all the time on it
BUT
all my weather stripping was coming apart
the brake master cylinder failed outright at around 10k miles and i had a completely slack brake pedal (lucky I found out in my own driveway!)
the auto start/stop feature simply ceased to function after my first oil change, never to work again
i had to adjust my rearview mirror every day because the weird ball joint adhesive thing they used for that would just melt in the heat
they require premium fuel
although I personally did not have engine problems, some variants of that engine are famously wretched
i'd do it again in a heartbeat, and I'd sell it again in a heartbeat lol
As someone who's never owned one but always coveted one, you are all absolutely breaking my heart with this Mini knowledge, I need you to know.
they're badass you just have to treat them the way most people treat BMWs... which is to lease them, drive the shit out of it, then hand it back and never look back
*eyes 200,000 mile BMW nervously*
They’re tons of fun, but you have to go in eyes open to the fact that you’re going to pay a lot more in maintenance. If you’re good with a wrench or you can stomach the repair bills, power to you, there’s a lot to love about them.
BMWs are not unserviceable, but every repair requires a very methodical process. You will need special tools and you will need access to a good repair manual. In retrospect I would probably not buy my 328i again, but now that I’ve ironed out most of the bugs it’s a very fun car to drive.
yeah a buddy of mine bought a used BMW SUV crossover type thing, it had ~100k miles when he got it and it seemed like he was doing another repair on it every month
he's also a tinkerer and had room to do his own maintenance so more power to him, but man some of the issues he had (and the timing of them) would have made me drive it into the ocean
As someone who's never owned one but always coveted one, you are all absolutely breaking my heart with this Mini knowledge, I need you to know.
The biggest thing is: is there a mechanic in your area that will service them. Otherwise you'll be doing your own maintenance--which is fine, but when I tell you that changing the oil is the Biggest Royal Pain in Anyone's Actual Ass, I mean that wholeheartedly--and taking a road trip to do things like replace the thermostat housing because somebody thinks a plastic one in a turbo engine is smart and also while your at it, just thread those 5 wiring harnesses right through it, too. And then get ready to do that part again in a few years.
Yes, I still have mine and I do still love it. Just know what you're getting yourself into. Or wait for the EV.
Edit: hard agree on the premium fuel. Do not try to feed it anything else. It will hand you so much attitude.
Owned a mini for 3 years under warranty and it was a joy. We lucked out and didnt have any serious issues, but still dumped it when the warranty ran out.
I barely fit, know all the horrors of the engine / etc but still dream of one as a winter beater. Sure it will be horribly expensive to maintain, but twice a year I will lots of fun hucking it around a snowy corner.
Really should just look for a well sorted Honda fit as it has everything but the self inflicted pain.
i bid on this car on BaT about 7 weeks ago and lost in a 2 person bidding contest. about 10 days after the auction BaT called me and said the winner backed out of the deal and forfeited his auction fee (which was over a thousand dollars)
they said they could put me in contact with the seller for non-binding negotiations and I wouldn't be charged any fees
seller accepted my high bid, car get
the seller had recently purchased another car from BaT also and had used BaT shipping successfully to get his, so I took his advice and went with them
to make a very very very long story short, it did not go well. the seller had to sit through two hauler no-shows eventually culminating in his wife having to meet the hauler while he was out of town on a trip, the pickup finally took place nearly 3 weeks after the bank wire had taken place
after it was finally picked up, the hauler placed the keys to this car in a bag, left the bag on the back of the transport trailer, and drove off. the original keys are now sitting somewhere on the side of the interstate in utah, never to be seen again
the hauler had to deliver the car to my nearest porsche dealer (which is nearly 2 hours away from my home), where I had to meet them in person to take delivery of my keyless automobile... with a bonus of being covered in the oil leak of a truck they were hauling above it. (thankfully not on the soft top, so it cleaned up alright, but goddamn).
several weeks later, keys finally delivered, hauler pays the invoices, i finally have it in my garage
throughout this ridiculously convoluted process, BaT shipping was... lets just say, less than good in their handling of the situation. i concede i was likely extremely unlucky, but they didn't do anything to make this go smoothly.
they did refund me 20% of the shipping fees which modestly contains my rant, but uhh... i will be unlikely to use BaT shipping against, especially for anything of major value... which, dont get me wrong, this is a nice car, but it is still pretty much the cheapest porsche you can buy
61.5k miles, 10+ years of fully documented maintenance history, all major maintenance done, IMS, RMS, fresh plugs, nearly brand new OEM brake replacement, brand new cloth top, all electronics still functioning, etc, etc. a very quality example. just minor wear and tear common to a car that actually got used and loved
i wanted something that reminded me of my RX-8 but with better power, and boy howdy... this thing moves and sounds fantastic
Based on Webguy's comments, I dug deeper on the Dart and Wwwwhhhheeeeww, you weren't kidding. There's probably some gems out there, but I'm not willing to roll the dice on my essential transportation.
So now it's between the '17 Cruze hatch or, possibly, a '16 Mini Countryman. Hoping to finalize this before next week. (I would like to retract my earlier statement that I enjoyed this part--it's stressful and expensive. Why didn't you warn me!? )
I bought a brand new Dart in 2012, 1.4L turbo/6-speed double clutch.
2 weeks into ownership I had to take it in for a recall because a batch of bad clutch parts was intermittently leaving me unable to move from a stop. It was in the shop for about a month while the parts slowly made their way over from Italy.
About a month after getting it back one of the sun visors snapped at the hinge, that got replaced under warranty.
After that I drove it ~35,000 miles a year for 4 years and my only problem was an intermittent CEL that came on whenever the temperature dropped below about 45F but didn't seem to affect performance.
Still don't think I'd recommend one to someone, but it seems to be typical FCA hit or miss quality.
ok so this is an idle question that has popped into my head... and i could not easily google an answer
the 986 has side intake ports... specifically the drivers side air duct, as far as I can tell... goes to the engine, via an air filter...
what is to stop someone from just pouring a gallon of water in this easily accessible hole? surely they thought of this? or do i have to be extra careful when washing my car
ok so this is an idle question that has popped into my head... and i could not easily google an answer
the 986 has side intake ports... specifically the drivers side air duct, as far as I can tell... goes to the engine, via an air filter...
what is to stop someone from just pouring a gallon of water in this easily accessible hole? surely they thought of this? or do i have to be extra careful when washing my car
From pictures, there's a cup around the bottom half of the snorkel opening that would prevent it from sucking up water pooling in that area and it doesn't appear the snorkel is actually sealed to the bodywork so any excess water would just drain out the back.
Your airbox air path is also not straight. It's baffled specifically to make debris and water fall out of the air stream. And there's a water drain in the bottom of the airbox to get rid of any water that does make it in.
If water ingestion were any real issue you wouldn't be able to drive the car in the rain.
Just remember that half the people you meet are below average intelligence.
I ripped a power wheelie for the first time yesterday on a block where I knew I was clear from all sides, and tbh it ruled
The Versys 650 is not the world's most exciting bike (it has factory bags for goodness sake), but between the short wheelbase and lack of rider aids besides ABS, it does have some concealed hooliganability
after 7 months on back order i finally got the computer control module on my VW replaced after it failed on day 2 off the lot... looks like it really was just a randomly defective piece of crap module. works fine now
been driving my boxster around, initially i was just doing food runs and stuff with it... and i thought.. well this is good but its not amazing im not really seeing what the fuss is about...
but i bought the car in part because i live in and around missouri amish country which is just endless hilly/mountain roads (depending on your definition of a mountain) and I finally got a chance to take it out on those roads and... yup. mhmm. i get it. the car reads your mind. the germans do in fact possess magical secrets.
after 7 months on back order i finally got the computer control module on my VW replaced after it failed on day 2 off the lot... looks like it really was just a randomly defective piece of crap module. works fine now
been driving my boxster around, initially i was just doing food runs and stuff with it... and i thought.. well this is good but its not amazing im not really seeing what the fuss is about...
but i bought the car in part because i live in and around missouri amish country which is just endless hilly/mountain roads (depending on your definition of a mountain) and I finally got a chance to take it out on those roads and... yup. mhmm. i get it. the car reads your mind. the germans do in fact possess magical secrets.
The problem is their magic comes from burning stacks of cash in ritual sacrifice to the fey engineers (source: had to replace a leaky strut and it required an entire front suspension overhaul over $3k)
About 14 years and 140k miles with no real mechanical problems. It's a tank of a car.
Also, it was kind of neat driving a car from a brand that doesn't exist anymore.
My new car is getting about 40mpg, which is awesome. Seems like I'll only need to fill up once a month vs. every two weeks or so.
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DemonStaceyTTODewback's DaughterIn love with the TaySwayRegistered Userregular
edited November 2023
I was so close. Made a deal for the Z. Then get a call that the clearcoat is all fucked up as seen here:
So they have to file a claim and get a replacement. Which I guess means I should have one on the way? What's another couple months when I've already been waiting a year and a half right?
Man that sucks. That could probably be fixed with wet sanding and then a 1-2 stage polish depending on the hardness of the clear. Regardless, that is unacceptable on a brand new car. Plus with how thin the paint in on new cars wet sanding and then polishing would leave very little for future paint corrections.
The rumors I have read was that one of the reason for poor Z production numbers was issues in the paint processes.
Incredible unforunate that this wasn't found earlier, and now you have to wait even longer
+1
DemonStaceyTTODewback's DaughterIn love with the TaySwayRegistered Userregular
Yea I'm glad the dealer noticed on their end because this is an out of state deal.
So if they had shipped it and I noticed that woulda been a much worse scenario.
+5
webguy20I spend too much time on the InternetRegistered Userregular
Hooray. Wife's car has a bad alternator. Thankfully we were able to get the car home and we don't need it this upcoming weekend, so I can put a new one in on Thanksgiving.
DemonStaceyTTODewback's DaughterIn love with the TaySwayRegistered Userregular
edited November 2023
Well it's ll fixed up, ceramic coated and ready to go with a 7 year paint warranty (that covers chips and stuff too!)thrown in to assuage any concerns.
That rear 3/4 shot is my absolute favorite bit of the new Z. Gorgeous color too, and a stick? Hell yeah!
Yea the taillights are fantastic design. I'm a big fan of the black roof too.
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Nova_CI have the needThe need for speedRegistered Userregular
Ahh, man, that is bangin'!
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webguy20I spend too much time on the InternetRegistered Userregular
Alrighty, got the battery hooked up to the tender and am going to attempt to replace the alternator in my wife's car this afternoon. Fingers crossed it goes somewhat smoothly.
Alrighty, got the battery hooked up to the tender and am going to attempt to replace the alternator in my wife's car this afternoon. Fingers crossed it goes somewhat smoothly.
Alternator swap went fairly smoothly. Still waiting for the battery to top off but everything else is buttoned back up and ready to go.
i booked a 911 GT3 session at the porsche experience center.... this is a bucket list kind of thing.... i will drive an exotic sports car in anger on a legitimate race track. merry christmas to me.
i booked a 911 GT3 session at the porsche experience center.... this is a bucket list kind of thing.... i will drive an exotic sports car in anger on a legitimate race track. merry christmas to me.
Book a meal at the 365 restaurant. It is really good and the prices are reasonable ( unlike the gift shop ).
Also take some time and do the self guided tour of the museum
Edit:
Do the food after the car, plus that way you can have a drink if you want
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they're badass you just have to treat them the way most people treat BMWs... which is to lease them, drive the shit out of it, then hand it back and never look back
i had mine for barely 4 years, loved it, loved the engine, loved the manual, loved the handling, it was very practical despite its size, the interior is really well done, its stylish... i'd get complimented all the time on it
BUT
all my weather stripping was coming apart
the brake master cylinder failed outright at around 10k miles and i had a completely slack brake pedal (lucky I found out in my own driveway!)
the auto start/stop feature simply ceased to function after my first oil change, never to work again
i had to adjust my rearview mirror every day because the weird ball joint adhesive thing they used for that would just melt in the heat
they require premium fuel
although I personally did not have engine problems, some variants of that engine are famously wretched
i'd do it again in a heartbeat, and I'd sell it again in a heartbeat lol
we also talk about other random shit and clown upon each other
*eyes 200,000 mile BMW nervously*
They’re tons of fun, but you have to go in eyes open to the fact that you’re going to pay a lot more in maintenance. If you’re good with a wrench or you can stomach the repair bills, power to you, there’s a lot to love about them.
BMWs are not unserviceable, but every repair requires a very methodical process. You will need special tools and you will need access to a good repair manual. In retrospect I would probably not buy my 328i again, but now that I’ve ironed out most of the bugs it’s a very fun car to drive.
You can't give someone a pirate ship in one game, and then take it back in the next game. It's rude.
he's also a tinkerer and had room to do his own maintenance so more power to him, but man some of the issues he had (and the timing of them) would have made me drive it into the ocean
The biggest thing is: is there a mechanic in your area that will service them. Otherwise you'll be doing your own maintenance--which is fine, but when I tell you that changing the oil is the Biggest Royal Pain in Anyone's Actual Ass, I mean that wholeheartedly--and taking a road trip to do things like replace the thermostat housing because somebody thinks a plastic one in a turbo engine is smart and also while your at it, just thread those 5 wiring harnesses right through it, too. And then get ready to do that part again in a few years.
Yes, I still have mine and I do still love it. Just know what you're getting yourself into. Or wait for the EV.
Edit: hard agree on the premium fuel. Do not try to feed it anything else. It will hand you so much attitude.
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I barely fit, know all the horrors of the engine / etc but still dream of one as a winter beater. Sure it will be horribly expensive to maintain, but twice a year I will lots of fun hucking it around a snowy corner.
Really should just look for a well sorted Honda fit as it has everything but the self inflicted pain.
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they said they could put me in contact with the seller for non-binding negotiations and I wouldn't be charged any fees
seller accepted my high bid, car get
the seller had recently purchased another car from BaT also and had used BaT shipping successfully to get his, so I took his advice and went with them
to make a very very very long story short, it did not go well. the seller had to sit through two hauler no-shows eventually culminating in his wife having to meet the hauler while he was out of town on a trip, the pickup finally took place nearly 3 weeks after the bank wire had taken place
after it was finally picked up, the hauler placed the keys to this car in a bag, left the bag on the back of the transport trailer, and drove off. the original keys are now sitting somewhere on the side of the interstate in utah, never to be seen again
the hauler had to deliver the car to my nearest porsche dealer (which is nearly 2 hours away from my home), where I had to meet them in person to take delivery of my keyless automobile... with a bonus of being covered in the oil leak of a truck they were hauling above it. (thankfully not on the soft top, so it cleaned up alright, but goddamn).
several weeks later, keys finally delivered, hauler pays the invoices, i finally have it in my garage
throughout this ridiculously convoluted process, BaT shipping was... lets just say, less than good in their handling of the situation. i concede i was likely extremely unlucky, but they didn't do anything to make this go smoothly.
they did refund me 20% of the shipping fees which modestly contains my rant, but uhh... i will be unlikely to use BaT shipping against, especially for anything of major value... which, dont get me wrong, this is a nice car, but it is still pretty much the cheapest porsche you can buy
61.5k miles, 10+ years of fully documented maintenance history, all major maintenance done, IMS, RMS, fresh plugs, nearly brand new OEM brake replacement, brand new cloth top, all electronics still functioning, etc, etc. a very quality example. just minor wear and tear common to a car that actually got used and loved
i wanted something that reminded me of my RX-8 but with better power, and boy howdy... this thing moves and sounds fantastic
we also talk about other random shit and clown upon each other
You can't give someone a pirate ship in one game, and then take it back in the next game. It's rude.
I bought a brand new Dart in 2012, 1.4L turbo/6-speed double clutch.
2 weeks into ownership I had to take it in for a recall because a batch of bad clutch parts was intermittently leaving me unable to move from a stop. It was in the shop for about a month while the parts slowly made their way over from Italy.
About a month after getting it back one of the sun visors snapped at the hinge, that got replaced under warranty.
After that I drove it ~35,000 miles a year for 4 years and my only problem was an intermittent CEL that came on whenever the temperature dropped below about 45F but didn't seem to affect performance.
Still don't think I'd recommend one to someone, but it seems to be typical FCA hit or miss quality.
the 986 has side intake ports... specifically the drivers side air duct, as far as I can tell... goes to the engine, via an air filter...
what is to stop someone from just pouring a gallon of water in this easily accessible hole? surely they thought of this? or do i have to be extra careful when washing my car
we also talk about other random shit and clown upon each other
From pictures, there's a cup around the bottom half of the snorkel opening that would prevent it from sucking up water pooling in that area and it doesn't appear the snorkel is actually sealed to the bodywork so any excess water would just drain out the back.
Your airbox air path is also not straight. It's baffled specifically to make debris and water fall out of the air stream. And there's a water drain in the bottom of the airbox to get rid of any water that does make it in.
If water ingestion were any real issue you wouldn't be able to drive the car in the rain.
A 2024 Honda CR-V hybrid.
This thing is hands down the nicest car I've ever owned.
The Versys 650 is not the world's most exciting bike (it has factory bags for goodness sake), but between the short wheelbase and lack of rider aids besides ABS, it does have some concealed hooliganability
been driving my boxster around, initially i was just doing food runs and stuff with it... and i thought.. well this is good but its not amazing im not really seeing what the fuss is about...
but i bought the car in part because i live in and around missouri amish country which is just endless hilly/mountain roads (depending on your definition of a mountain) and I finally got a chance to take it out on those roads and... yup. mhmm. i get it. the car reads your mind. the germans do in fact possess magical secrets.
we also talk about other random shit and clown upon each other
The problem is their magic comes from burning stacks of cash in ritual sacrifice to the fey engineers (source: had to replace a leaky strut and it required an entire front suspension overhaul over $3k)
About 14 years and 140k miles with no real mechanical problems. It's a tank of a car.
Also, it was kind of neat driving a car from a brand that doesn't exist anymore.
My new car is getting about 40mpg, which is awesome. Seems like I'll only need to fill up once a month vs. every two weeks or so.
So they have to file a claim and get a replacement. Which I guess means I should have one on the way? What's another couple months when I've already been waiting a year and a half right?
That blue is vibrant as hell though!
The blue is gorgeous though!
Incredible unforunate that this wasn't found earlier, and now you have to wait even longer
So if they had shipped it and I noticed that woulda been a much worse scenario.
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Wiring the money today!
I just fell in love with the idea from the moment I saw it and ending up with a plain old black interior would have left me wanting.
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You can't give someone a pirate ship in one game, and then take it back in the next game. It's rude.
Yea the taillights are fantastic design. I'm a big fan of the black roof too.
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Alternator swap went fairly smoothly. Still waiting for the battery to top off but everything else is buttoned back up and ready to go.
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we also talk about other random shit and clown upon each other
Book a meal at the 365 restaurant. It is really good and the prices are reasonable ( unlike the gift shop ).
Also take some time and do the self guided tour of the museum
Edit:
Do the food after the car, plus that way you can have a drink if you want