typewriters last literally forever and are indestructible; keyboards are mere years from becoming yet more plastic garbage
I want to be able to use my keyboard for ten years, beat a man to death with it, use it for another twenty
Some of the older PC keyboards were built amazingly well. The IBM PC's Model F and Model M keyboards were designed by people who understood typewriters.
Then you have keyboards like the original godawful ZX Spectrum keyboard.
the keyboard on the zx spectrum was lauded at the time for being so much better than the keyboard on the zx 80.
I want someone to gather up the people who used to design typewriters, and have them make a keyboard
plastic, bah
give me steel
The entire plate of that keyboard is metal
that's basically the only non-moving part
Most mechanical keyboards last for a very long time.
Typewriters were kinda shit and needed constant repairing of the components.
they have a lot more parts than just the keys, though
and well mine is still in perfect working order after the 40 odd years since my grandfather bought it
My mom had one where the actual arms from the keys would keep coming loose.
The biggest reason an all-metal mechanical keyboard would fail is metal slamming on metal with every keystroke. Plastic can buck up on plastic and not cause any damage. Metal will eventually wear itself out.
Not a good material to construct something that will impact on every use.
Plastic will also wear itself out. Obviously. Everything does.
Eventually, yes.
It'll last far longer than metal when being banged against itself constantly.
okay er, banged? why?
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MortiousThe Nightmare BeginsMove to New ZealandRegistered Userregular
The old things that we have that still work, lasted. The ones that didn't were thrown out and forgotten about.
It is probably more that even more expensive keyboards are not designed to be easily repairable whil e most typewriters were expensive enough that repairing them made sense. A typewriter was like 200 dollars in 1979 without adjusting for inflation.
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I often see things about old stuff lasting forever and I'm like
No
Often it did not.
Older CRT's from the 80's lasted forever, but CRT's from the late 90's were kinda shit. Because they cut costs and made them cheap.
Old thumb drives used to last for years. Now you're lucky if you get through a few file transfers. Because they cut costs and downgraded the chips used.
Some old stuff worked for years, most of it was disposable shit like we have today.
but you're saying the older stuff lasted forever whereas the newer stuff did not? I am a bit confused
Like anything else, it depends.
Usually the first wave of things is more reliable than later iterations.
Typewriters aren't inherently more robust than other typing items, especially later on in their viable product lifetime.
well inherently they're less robust simply by being far more complicated machines than keyboards
but yes the fact that old typewriters were made to last and modern keyboards are not, because nobody will be using the same computer keyboard for thirty years, is why I want the latter to be designed by the designers of the former because I really like things that are made to last way way longer than it needs to
IBM Model Ms are still in use, and people have been using them since the 80's with some repairs.
I often see things about old stuff lasting forever and I'm like
No
Often it did not.
Older CRT's from the 80's lasted forever, but CRT's from the late 90's were kinda shit. Because they cut costs and made them cheap.
Old thumb drives used to last for years. Now you're lucky if you get through a few file transfers. Because they cut costs and downgraded the chips used.
Some old stuff worked for years, most of it was disposable shit like we have today.
Tut tut. My Sony Trinitron from 1998 still works fine and I used that thing daily.
It is probably more that even more expensive keyboards are not designed to be easily repairable whil e most typewriters were expensive enough that repairing them made sense. A typewriter was like 200 dollars in 1979 without adjusting for inflation.
yeah I mean you couldn't have made disposable typewriters back in the 60s and 70s. They were expensive, even if you made them crap they were really expensive, so nobody would buy the crap ones.
we can make shit so cheap these days that we can just buy crap stuff and throw it out before it even breaks because something else will strike our fancy within a couple years anyways
which would be a pretty unthinkable mindset not that far back
I love the era where a billion companies made their own computers, half of which had almost no sales outside their home market.
there was a period when RadioShack (which was still successful at the time) sold like 4 different computers in the same store that were all completely incompatible with each other
and one of those was pretty much the best PC on the market at the time
when people bemoan the fact that oh everything's crap today and nothing's made to last, washing machines are crap and the furniture's IKEA and everything, it's always "the greedy corporations are cutting corners for profit"
y'all are buying it, that's the reason. The companies would be happy to sell you well made quality shit, if that sold, but people want to buy cheap, so cheap sells. Then they complain that their cheap stuff is crap.
this hasn't really got anything to do with the conversation I'm just annoyed at a conversation with a guy about how modern furniture is crap, because it's not, you can still buy a good chair and really, it's no more pricier than it ever was, which always was: somewhat so, it's furniture, it lasts. Or, go to IKEA and buy something cheap that does not, if you so desire, but just please don't rant at coworkers about how modern furniture is crap
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buying things for life is overrated
i'm deeply unhappy and new, shiny things help fill the void
when people bemoan the fact that oh everything's crap today and nothing's made to last, washing machines are crap and the furniture's IKEA and everything, it's always "the greedy corporations are cutting corners for profit"
y'all are buying it, that's the reason. The companies would be happy to sell you well made quality shit, if that sold, but people want to buy cheap, so cheap sells. Then they complain that their cheap stuff is crap.
this hasn't really got anything to do with the conversation I'm just annoyed at a conversation with a guy about how modern furniture is crap, because it's not, you can still buy a good chair and really, it's no more pricier than it ever was, which always was: somewhat so, it's furniture, it lasts. Or, go to IKEA and buy something cheap that does not, if you so desire, but just please don't rant at coworkers about how modern furniture is crap
the genocide of native americans (90% of the population) resulted in a lot of cleared land being reclaimed and contributed to the start of the little ice age
this is not a dig at IKEA; I like IKEA; everything in here is IKEA. The main benefit is that when I move out I ain't taking none of this shit down the stairs, it's all going out the window, as I could do that, since it is IKEA.
I would like to buy quality furniture, but it's so fucking heavy and hard to move, and my life right now is not compatible with that. That said, we're trying our best to slowly move away from disposable plastic everything and towards more durable, higher quality homeware.
"There is a lot of talk around 'negative emissions' approaches and using tree-planting to take CO₂ out of the atmosphere to mitigate climate change," he told BBC News.
"And what we see from this study is the scale of what's required, because the Great Dying resulted in an area the size of France being reforested and that gave us only a few ppm. This is useful; it shows us what reforestation can do. But at the same, that kind of reduction is worth perhaps just two years of fossil fuel emissions at the present rate."
when people bemoan the fact that oh everything's crap today and nothing's made to last, washing machines are crap and the furniture's IKEA and everything, it's always "the greedy corporations are cutting corners for profit"
y'all are buying it, that's the reason. The companies would be happy to sell you well made quality shit, if that sold, but people want to buy cheap, so cheap sells. Then they complain that their cheap stuff is crap.
this hasn't really got anything to do with the conversation I'm just annoyed at a conversation with a guy about how modern furniture is crap, because it's not, you can still buy a good chair and really, it's no more pricier than it ever was, which always was: somewhat so, it's furniture, it lasts. Or, go to IKEA and buy something cheap that does not, if you so desire, but just please don't rant at coworkers about how modern furniture is crap
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People used to have and buy less stuff though. And usually that stuff was seen as an investment. But they also had a house to safely store that investment, so because people move all the time they buy trash because good stuff will just get wrecked.
when people bemoan the fact that oh everything's crap today and nothing's made to last, washing machines are crap and the furniture's IKEA and everything, it's always "the greedy corporations are cutting corners for profit"
y'all are buying it, that's the reason. The companies would be happy to sell you well made quality shit, if that sold, but people want to buy cheap, so cheap sells. Then they complain that their cheap stuff is crap.
this hasn't really got anything to do with the conversation I'm just annoyed at a conversation with a guy about how modern furniture is crap, because it's not, you can still buy a good chair and really, it's no more pricier than it ever was, which always was: somewhat so, it's furniture, it lasts. Or, go to IKEA and buy something cheap that does not, if you so desire, but just please don't rant at coworkers about how modern furniture is crap
People used to make enough money to afford nice furniture.
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when people bemoan the fact that oh everything's crap today and nothing's made to last, washing machines are crap and the furniture's IKEA and everything, it's always "the greedy corporations are cutting corners for profit"
y'all are buying it, that's the reason. The companies would be happy to sell you well made quality shit, if that sold, but people want to buy cheap, so cheap sells. Then they complain that their cheap stuff is crap.
this hasn't really got anything to do with the conversation I'm just annoyed at a conversation with a guy about how modern furniture is crap, because it's not, you can still buy a good chair and really, it's no more pricier than it ever was, which always was: somewhat so, it's furniture, it lasts. Or, go to IKEA and buy something cheap that does not, if you so desire, but just please don't rant at coworkers about how modern furniture is crap
wage_Growth.jpg
People used to have and buy less stuff though. And usually that stuff was seen as an investment. But they also had a house to safely store that investment, so because people move all the time they buy trash because good stuff will just get wrecked.
Also buying power hasn't budged in nearly 40 years
when people bemoan the fact that oh everything's crap today and nothing's made to last, washing machines are crap and the furniture's IKEA and everything, it's always "the greedy corporations are cutting corners for profit"
y'all are buying it, that's the reason. The companies would be happy to sell you well made quality shit, if that sold, but people want to buy cheap, so cheap sells. Then they complain that their cheap stuff is crap.
this hasn't really got anything to do with the conversation I'm just annoyed at a conversation with a guy about how modern furniture is crap, because it's not, you can still buy a good chair and really, it's no more pricier than it ever was, which always was: somewhat so, it's furniture, it lasts. Or, go to IKEA and buy something cheap that does not, if you so desire, but just please don't rant at coworkers about how modern furniture is crap
wage_Growth.jpg
People used to have and buy less stuff though. And usually that stuff was seen as an investment. But they also had a house to safely store that investment, so because people move all the time they buy trash because good stuff will just get wrecked.
Also buying power hasn't budged in nearly 40 years
it hasn't gone down
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"There is a lot of talk around 'negative emissions' approaches and using tree-planting to take CO₂ out of the atmosphere to mitigate climate change," he told BBC News.
"And what we see from this study is the scale of what's required, because the Great Dying resulted in an area the size of France being reforested and that gave us only a few ppm. This is useful; it shows us what reforestation can do. But at the same, that kind of reduction is worth perhaps just two years of fossil fuel emissions at the present rate."
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the keyboard on the zx spectrum was lauded at the time for being so much better than the keyboard on the zx 80.
okay er, banged? why?
It’s not a very important country most of the time
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IBM Model Ms are still in use, and people have been using them since the 80's with some repairs.
We're not talking about anchoring a boat, though.
yeah I mean you couldn't have made disposable typewriters back in the 60s and 70s. They were expensive, even if you made them crap they were really expensive, so nobody would buy the crap ones.
we can make shit so cheap these days that we can just buy crap stuff and throw it out before it even breaks because something else will strike our fancy within a couple years anyways
which would be a pretty unthinkable mindset not that far back
(that would be $735 in today's dollars)
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there was a period when RadioShack (which was still successful at the time) sold like 4 different computers in the same store that were all completely incompatible with each other
and one of those was pretty much the best PC on the market at the time
y'all are buying it, that's the reason. The companies would be happy to sell you well made quality shit, if that sold, but people want to buy cheap, so cheap sells. Then they complain that their cheap stuff is crap.
this hasn't really got anything to do with the conversation I'm just annoyed at a conversation with a guy about how modern furniture is crap, because it's not, you can still buy a good chair and really, it's no more pricier than it ever was, which always was: somewhat so, it's furniture, it lasts. Or, go to IKEA and buy something cheap that does not, if you so desire, but just please don't rant at coworkers about how modern furniture is crap
i'm deeply unhappy and new, shiny things help fill the void
wage_Growth.jpg
the genocide of native americans (90% of the population) resulted in a lot of cleared land being reclaimed and contributed to the start of the little ice age
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-47063973
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People used to have and buy less stuff though. And usually that stuff was seen as an investment. But they also had a house to safely store that investment, so because people move all the time they buy trash because good stuff will just get wrecked.
VR Groundhog Day seems like a great idea.
People used to make enough money to afford nice furniture.
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Also buying power hasn't budged in nearly 40 years
it hasn't gone down