the PC game thread where we are still accountably talking about Baldur's Gate

Shorty

Baldur's gate is a good game and I like it a lot

BahamutZERO

tube was being sarcastic, we're supposed to never mention baldur's gate again

el_vicio

https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/1134084655664324609

if they don't deliver Rare Replay, I swear...

Shorty

no I'm gonna keep doing it, I want to talk more about how Neera sucked

captaink

How about Nalia though?

Quetzi

I don't honestly feel safe posting in a non-Brolo PC game thread

Quetzi

Shorty wrote: »

no I'm gonna keep doing it, I want to talk more about how Neera sucked

Neera sucked but also so did a bunch of characters in the original game so I don't actually hold it against Beamdog that much

Moriveth

Nalia also sucked in that white liberal way of "Oh I am helping the LITTLE PEOPLE"

Shorty

captaink wrote: »

How about Nalia though?

nalia's dialogue doesn't make me want to jump into a woodchipper

like she's believable as a clueless rich gal

Medium Dave

As this got dropped right before the last thread closed

Regarding the Larian Baldur's Gate thing -

Jason Schreier, excellent reporter at Kotaku, said on ResetEra "In case there was any doubt, a lot of people are privately confirming to me secondhand/obliquely that this is for real. Holy fucking shit."

Moriveth

Over the years I have come to the conclusion that Jaheria Was Good, Actually, Aerie was a creepy nerdbait fantasy, and I never romanced Viconia but she seems like she'd be into some kinky shit

Shorty

Straightzi wrote: »

Shorty wrote: »

no I'm gonna keep doing it, I want to talk more about how Neera sucked

Neera sucked but also so did a bunch of characters in the original game so I don't actually hold it against Beamdog that much

I think her character concept is fine to good, if a bit trope-y

it's mainly in execution that she fails

and I do think that part of this is the VA, but I also doubt they were given great direction

PiptheFair

Moriveth wrote: »

Over the years I have come to the conclusion that Jaheria Was Good, Actually, Aerie was a creepy nerdbait fantasy, and I never romanced Viconia but she seems like she'd be into some kinky shit

the kinda kinky shit she'd be into extends well beyond what a reasonable human would or should be ok with

Quetzi

Aerie is so terrible and I am way more okay with Neera than her

Shorty

Moriveth wrote: »

Over the years I have come to the conclusion that Jaheria Was Good, Actually, Aerie was a creepy nerdbait fantasy, and I never romanced Viconia but she seems like she'd be into some kinky shit

I romance Viconia every time

I like 'em mean

Moriveth

Also Anomen suxxxxxxxxxxx

Lavender Gooms

I remember I liked Aerie a lot.

But I was also 17. Doubt that would happen again now.

Moriveth

RIP Yoshimo

RIP Khalid

RIP Ajantis

Valygar is the most boring human in existence for having such an interesting backstory

Mazzy rulz ok

Shorty

the thing about the annoying characters in BG2 is that you generally dislike them on a human level, you're reacting to their personalities

it's the difference between "I don't want to hang out with this person" and "this is a bad work of fiction"

Shorty

Moriveth wrote: »

RIP Yoshimo

RIP Khalid

RIP Ajantis

Valygar is the most boring human in existence for having such an interesting backstory

Mazzy rulz ok

mazzy kicks ass

Moriveth

Shorty wrote: »

the thing about the annoying characters in BG2 is that you generally dislike them on a human level, you're reacting to their personalities

it's the difference between "I don't want to hang out with this person" and "this is a bad work of fiction"

Yeah, I disliked Anomen but it's because he was an insufferable douchebag

Also I never really liked Keldorn but he had a nice ending, at least

same thing with Cernd, although his is very tragic.

Lavender Gooms

I think I would have a hard time with Baldurs Gate 2 now in general, not just because of the gameplay but because there's a lot more characters in it that I dislike than ones I enjoy.

Moriveth

It's weird that Minsc became the character from BG to break out, because really, Mazzy is right there

Dizzy D

Very into BGIII if it comes out. I wasn't the biggest fan of Divinity Original Sin 1 (though I did finish it, mostly because I generally play games to the end), but I really liked Divinity Original Sin 2. I have the Beamdog versions of BG and BG2 (and also my original discs of both, but no PC that can read discs anymore.), but I can't remember any of the new PCs (there was an evil half-orc paladin I believe? And a monk and a Wild Mage?).

Pillars of Eternity 1: I never got far into it. I will try to complete it at some point in the future.

Tyranny: I really enjoyed the beginning, but I felt railroaded in chapter 2 and onwards.

Quetzi

Hmm, hmm, let's see if I can do this:

1. Mazzy
2. Viconia
3. Yoshimo
4. Haer'Dalis
5. Edwin
6. Valygar
7. Jaheira
8. Korgan
9. Jan
10. Keldorn
11. Cernd
12. Nalia
13. Minsc
14. Imoen
15. Aerie
16. Anomen

My feelings have changed a lot over the years - Minsc used to be really high on my list, Mazzy and Viconia both used to be a lot lower. I didn't include Sarevok or any of the EE NPCs for reasons, but Sarevok would probably be mid to high, Neera and Rasaad would be around the middle, Hexxat would be mid to high, Dorn would be near the top, and Wilson would be above everyone else on this list.

Phillishere

On Larian's writing ability, I thought the writing and tone for Divinity 2 was massively improved over the first. They largely dropped the ersatz Terry Pratchett tone and largely played things straight.

To me, they are a much better choice than Obsidian. At least with the Pilllars games, the writing was so constantly laser focused on the uber plot and the worldbuilding that you rarely had quests that featured interesting characters doing their own things out in the world.

Moriveth

Does anyone remember the Baldurs Gate novels? I only read the first one but I remember Khalid dies in that pretty gruesomely.

AtomicTofu

They brought on Chris Avellone to write for Divinity 2, right?

Shorty

I read the first couple pages of the second one and noped out

I do think it kinda sucks that those are considered FR canon and the actual games aren't

Moriveth

Shorty wrote: »

I read the first couple pages of the second one and noped out

I do think it kinda sucks that those are considered FR canon and the actual games aren't

Yeah I definitely didn't like it. I think it was my first exposure to "Huh this deviates from the source material in a way I really hate!"

captaink

I found these somewhere the other day, I like the art.


https://nklerwjrejhshaasl.tumblr.com/

BG1 Companions:

Henroid

I never played BG. I should. Most everyone I know has and they liked it.

Asthariel

I recommend everyone still playing BG series to install some mods.

Even friendship packs, adding series of dialogues to vanilla npcs improve atmosphere quiete a bit in my opinion.

BlankZoe

I am pretty sure those are by Royko Kui, creator of Delicious in Dungeon, which rules

Radius

Was Minsc ever really the character that broke out, or was it Boo?

Dizzy D

Baldur's Gate novels were notoriously bad according to pretty much every RPG, videogame and book forum I ever been on. Enough to scare me off from never reading them.

Henroid

Oh man I forgot a remastered thing came out for 1 and 2.

Mx. Quill

Radius wrote: »

Was Minsc ever really the character that broke out, or was it Boo?

As someone who never played Baulder's Gate, I've only ever heard of the hamster.

Peewi

captaink wrote: »

I found these somewhere the other day, I like the art.

[im g]https://66.media.tumblr.com/0e9409e64301cb16bacc2b9d32834688/tumblr_pnf74lHz561rq0x9xo1_1280.jpg[/img]
https://nklerwjrejhshaasl.tumblr.com/

BG1 Companions:

Those are by the artist of Delicious in Dungeon, which is a pretty good manga.

Shorty

is that the one where the main character is a vending machine

Peewi

It's the one where a D&D party makes food out of the monsters they kill.