Yeah, Bendis doesn't really know how to write the Sentry or Ares or lots of characters very well lately. It just seems like that to me, anyway.
I mean, there you have Ares being portrayed as a dumb brute who's not very skilled in the arts of war. And there you have lady Ultron somehow punching the Sentry hard enough to draw blood. Or something. Power of a million exploding suns (not a thousand, by the way). Sigh.
He can slap a Herald of Galactus around with ease but needs help from Ms. goddamn Marvel and bloody Wonder Man to catch the Helicarrier
Does anyone see any silliness here
You know I read that differently. I didn't think Sentry needed their help, I read it like they didn't know if he was going to be able to help them so they jumped out to grab the Helicarrier and then saw that Sentry had gotten there in time.
Yeah, Bendis doesn't really know how to write the Sentry or Ares or lots of characters very well lately. It just seems like that to me, anyway.
I mean, there you have Ares being portrayed as a dumb brute who's not very skilled in the arts of war. And there you have lady Ultron somehow punching the Sentry hard enough to draw blood. Or something. Power of a million exploding suns (not a thousand, by the way). Sigh.
He can slap a Herald of Galactus around with ease but needs help from Ms. goddamn Marvel and bloody Wonder Man to catch the Helicarrier
Does anyone see any silliness here
which herald did he slap around with ease? sorry but i haven't read that many stories involving the Sentry. just curious. thanks!
Terrax.
Terrax really is most likely the weakest herald, especially if Annihilation is the gold standard for all things cosmic now.
In Annihilation Terrax broke a planet in half. That is hardly weak. I am struggling to think of times the other heralds have performed comparable feats.
Yeah, Bendis doesn't really know how to write the Sentry or Ares or lots of characters very well lately. It just seems like that to me, anyway.
I mean, there you have Ares being portrayed as a dumb brute who's not very skilled in the arts of war. And there you have lady Ultron somehow punching the Sentry hard enough to draw blood. Or something. Power of a million exploding suns (not a thousand, by the way). Sigh.
He can slap a Herald of Galactus around with ease but needs help from Ms. goddamn Marvel and bloody Wonder Man to catch the Helicarrier
Does anyone see any silliness here
which herald did he slap around with ease? sorry but i haven't read that many stories involving the Sentry. just curious. thanks!
Terrax.
Terrax really is most likely the weakest herald, especially if Annihilation is the gold standard for all things cosmic now.
In Annihilation Terrax broke a planet in half. That is hardly weak. I am struggling to think of times the other heralds have performed comparable feats.
There were these two beings as powerful as Galactus. Tenebrous and Aegis. You might have heard of them.
Silver Surfer killed both of them at the same time.
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Yeah, Bendis doesn't really know how to write the Sentry or Ares or lots of characters very well lately. It just seems like that to me, anyway.
I mean, there you have Ares being portrayed as a dumb brute who's not very skilled in the arts of war. And there you have lady Ultron somehow punching the Sentry hard enough to draw blood. Or something. Power of a million exploding suns (not a thousand, by the way). Sigh.
He can slap a Herald of Galactus around with ease but needs help from Ms. goddamn Marvel and bloody Wonder Man to catch the Helicarrier
Does anyone see any silliness here
which herald did he slap around with ease? sorry but i haven't read that many stories involving the Sentry. just curious. thanks!
Terrax.
Terrax really is most likely the weakest herald, especially if Annihilation is the gold standard for all things cosmic now.
In Annihilation Terrax broke a planet in half. That is hardly weak. I am struggling to think of times the other heralds have performed comparable feats.
There were these two beings as powerful as Galactus. Tenebrous and Aegis. You might have heard of them.
Silver Surfer killed both of them at the same time.
Leave it to DC to overpower their characters
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Yeah, Bendis doesn't really know how to write the Sentry or Ares or lots of characters very well lately. It just seems like that to me, anyway.
I mean, there you have Ares being portrayed as a dumb brute who's not very skilled in the arts of war. And there you have lady Ultron somehow punching the Sentry hard enough to draw blood. Or something. Power of a million exploding suns (not a thousand, by the way). Sigh.
Don't you think that was Bendis's way of demonstrating just how powerful lady Ultron is?
Yeah, Bendis doesn't really know how to write the Sentry or Ares or lots of characters very well lately. It just seems like that to me, anyway.
I mean, there you have Ares being portrayed as a dumb brute who's not very skilled in the arts of war. And there you have lady Ultron somehow punching the Sentry hard enough to draw blood. Or something. Power of a million exploding suns (not a thousand, by the way). Sigh.
Don't you think that was Bendis's way of demonstrating just how powerful lady Ultron is?
I mean, it's really not hard to think that way
Well it obviously was.
I'm just saying that Ultron, unless somehow in the posession of the Power Cosmic, should never be able to do that.
The Sentry has single-handedly fought Galactus to a standstill.
Neither Ultron nor Tony Stark have ever come close to the Sentry's level of power. Not even put together.
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The Sentry's not overpowered, he's powerful. He comes across as overpowered because he's being used in ways he shouldn't be, i.e. as a guy who fights other guys.
The Sentry's not about fighting other guys, he's about the Sentry and the Void, and their struggle.
The Sentry's not overpowered, he's powerful. He comes across as overpowered because he's being used in ways he shouldn't be, i.e. as a guy who fights other guys.
The Sentry's not about fighting other guys, he's about the Sentry and the Void, and their struggle.
Exactly. Putting him on any Avengers team wasn't the brightest idea, really.
The Sentry's not overpowered, he's powerful. He comes across as overpowered because he's being used in ways he shouldn't be, i.e. as a guy who fights other guys.
The Sentry's not about fighting other guys, he's about the Sentry and the Void, and their struggle.
Exactly. Putting him on any Avengers team wasn't the brightest idea, really.
Using him outside of his excellent Mini was stupid. His origianl Mini was great and consider it one of my favorite comics. using him beyond that makes the story useless
The Sentry's not overpowered, he's powerful. He comes across as overpowered because he's being used in ways he shouldn't be, i.e. as a guy who fights other guys.
The Sentry's not about fighting other guys, he's about the Sentry and the Void, and their struggle.
Exactly. Putting him on any Avengers team wasn't the brightest idea, really.
Using him outside of his excellent Mini was stupid. His origianl Mini was great and consider it one of my favorite comics. using him beyond that makes the story useless
I don't think it was stupid. I think it makes sense within the MU. Why wouldn't Tony or any power want to have him at their beck and call? Supes is constantly holding back, why can't Sentry? I hate using sports analogies, but he's like a major league pitcher told to go to AAA, he slacks and its the greatest thing ever to his team mates.
edit: Also is Cable back to Super Saiyan Jesus Face now?
I read the Retro Girl trade, the first issues of the series, right? And then the one with the three black heroes that all die. I enjoyed the read, but when I sat back and thought about it...I couldn't really understand why. Or pick out things I liked about it. So that's why I'll stick with good, but not that good.
The Ultimates has great moments, and I've bought like two issues simply because I would skim it and be amazed at Hawkeye doing something crazy, or Hulk eating someone, and want to have hard proof that the craziness is real. And I'll admit...I own every issue of Ultimate Iron Man. I think I even have a variant cover of one. But that's only because Orson Scott Card fucking wrote it. I tried to read a book about Christopher Columbus just because of this man.
My problem with the U-line is the simple shittiness of, hey, let's just update everything for the modern age and recycle all the stories we've already told. Instead of just making the real titles better. It's a rip-off, I think.
(Apparently my moment of the week is when I made you all hate me.)
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To be perfectly honest. I didn't even know who the sentry was until New Avengers. When I first saw the sentry cover for break out I thought it was Hyperion. Strangly I still wish it was Hyperion
I stumbled across some collection of the Sentry arc, and trying to understand him, his (apparently non-existant) wife, and the Void made my head hurt. The best moment was when it looked like the only people left standing were Namor and Gorgon. I love it when Namor goes nuts and starts wrecking everyone's shit.
My problem with the U-line is the simple shittiness of, hey, let's just update everything for the modern age and recycle all the stories we've already told. Instead of just making the real titles better. It's a rip-off, I think.
(Apparently my moment of the week is when I made you all hate me.)
Yeah, that didn't really happen. Also, The Normal modern marvel line updates itself as well. In other words, you haven't actually read anything, and don't really know all that much about Marvel. Which is fine, just don't be surprised when you say "Marvel suxorzx!1!11!" and we call you on it. And don't give me crap about how you only said it was Ultimate lines that sucked, as you apparently have never actually read them anyway.
I love Marvel. I was never a big DC fan until recently, right before Crisis. And I never said I read Ultimates, I said they were dead to me as soon as they were created. Except Iron Man, because Card transcends all boundries. I've enjoyed a lot of the current Marvel stuff, but none of the mainstream. Like I skipped all Civil War besides Runaways/Young Avengers, and have almost the full run of Exiles. Hell, I even bought Livewires...
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Card isn't a very good writer at all, especially not a very good Iron Man writer (brains do not work that way, Orson Scott Card, not even in comics, and you just changed everything Iron man is about). It's very interesting that you hate the line save for the worst thing in it.
Also you don't know anything about the Ultimate line at all, so you should probably just stop talking about it, seeing as you don't know what the hell you're saying.
Card isn't a very good writer at all, especially not a very good Iron Man writer (brains do not work that way, Orson Scott Card, not even in comics, and you just changed everything Iron man is about). It's very interesting that you hate the line save for the worst thing in it.
Also you don't know anything about the Ultimate line at all, so you should probably just stop talking about it, seeing as you don't know what the hell you're saying.
Uh, brains can work that way in comics. It's FICTION!
Card isn't a very good writer at all, especially not a very good Iron Man writer (brains do not work that way, Orson Scott Card, not even in comics, and you just changed everything Iron man is about). It's very interesting that you hate the line save for the worst thing in it.
Also you don't know anything about the Ultimate line at all, so you should probably just stop talking about it, seeing as you don't know what the hell you're saying.
Plus, if we wanted to read about Bean, we'd probably read a book about Bean.
Card isn't a very good writer at all, especially not a very good Iron Man writer (brains do not work that way, Orson Scott Card, not even in comics, and you just changed everything Iron man is about). It's very interesting that you hate the line save for the worst thing in it.
Also you don't know anything about the Ultimate line at all, so you should probably just stop talking about it, seeing as you don't know what the hell you're saying.
Plus, if we wanted to read about Bean, we'd probably read a book about Bean.
The chances of that happening though...
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So I briefly remembered reading the whole brain thing about Ult. Iron Man, so I looked it up in wikipedia and I can completely see why people bash it.
Really? REALLY? His whole body is just one big brain? And the whole thing with drinks lessening the pain robs the character of Tony Stark of something that has made him stand out from a lot of other super heroes. This basically gives him an "out" for being an alcoholic.
I like just about all the Ultimates line, including Iron Man. I like the changes because frankly, I don't want just normal Iron Man in another universe. I like that they've changed some fundamental things about him, to explore new avenues. One of the things I don't like about U. Spider-Man is I don't feel like they've changed him enough. It just feels like normal spider-man, but with the story more condensed, for the most part.
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You know I read that differently. I didn't think Sentry needed their help, I read it like they didn't know if he was going to be able to help them so they jumped out to grab the Helicarrier and then saw that Sentry had gotten there in time.
There were these two beings as powerful as Galactus. Tenebrous and Aegis. You might have heard of them.
Silver Surfer killed both of them at the same time.
Leave it to DC to overpower their characters
Don't you think that was Bendis's way of demonstrating just how powerful lady Ultron is?
I mean, it's really not hard to think that way
Well it obviously was.
I'm just saying that Ultron, unless somehow in the posession of the Power Cosmic, should never be able to do that.
The Sentry has single-handedly fought Galactus to a standstill.
Neither Ultron nor Tony Stark have ever come close to the Sentry's level of power. Not even put together.
I need to read the first Sentry mini
Hell, I'll buy Bendis a beer.
The Sentry's not about fighting other guys, he's about the Sentry and the Void, and their struggle.
Using him outside of his excellent Mini was stupid. His origianl Mini was great and consider it one of my favorite comics. using him beyond that makes the story useless
I don't think it was stupid. I think it makes sense within the MU. Why wouldn't Tony or any power want to have him at their beck and call? Supes is constantly holding back, why can't Sentry? I hate using sports analogies, but he's like a major league pitcher told to go to AAA, he slacks and its the greatest thing ever to his team mates.
edit: Also is Cable back to Super Saiyan Jesus Face now?
The Ultimates has great moments, and I've bought like two issues simply because I would skim it and be amazed at Hawkeye doing something crazy, or Hulk eating someone, and want to have hard proof that the craziness is real. And I'll admit...I own every issue of Ultimate Iron Man. I think I even have a variant cover of one. But that's only because Orson Scott Card fucking wrote it. I tried to read a book about Christopher Columbus just because of this man.
My problem with the U-line is the simple shittiness of, hey, let's just update everything for the modern age and recycle all the stories we've already told. Instead of just making the real titles better. It's a rip-off, I think.
(Apparently my moment of the week is when I made you all hate me.)
Okay.
Yeah, that didn't really happen. Also, The Normal modern marvel line updates itself as well. In other words, you haven't actually read anything, and don't really know all that much about Marvel. Which is fine, just don't be surprised when you say "Marvel suxorzx!1!11!" and we call you on it. And don't give me crap about how you only said it was Ultimate lines that sucked, as you apparently have never actually read them anyway.
This is why I'm making fun of you.
Also you don't know anything about the Ultimate line at all, so you should probably just stop talking about it, seeing as you don't know what the hell you're saying.
So there.
Anally.
Uh, brains can work that way in comics. It's FICTION!
Uh, no it's not
Uh, yeah it is.
I found it all perfectly plausible in a comic-book-science kind of way.
Anally.
nuh-uh
Plus, if we wanted to read about Bean, we'd probably read a book about Bean.
The chances of that happening though...
Congratulations, you're a fucking retard.
Card was trying too hard to apply all the shit he did in the Enderverse.
But it's a good Ultimate Iron Man story.