So The Boys. I read the comic. I....liked the story in the comic, the ideas behind the story, and the characters mostly. I hated everything else. Ennis like werid gross out sex comedy in The Boys comic and it always made me feel gross as shit. Overall it was a solid arch but there was so much bad stuff in it ugh.
The TV show
Changes quite a bit but I like all of it. The characters are well better and theres about 300% less gross shit.
There is one part that bothered me a bit though
When The Deep is banished to Ohio he meets a girl and she like...rapes his gills? He doesn't consent to it but shes on top of him fingering/fisting his gills and he says it hurts and I know he was a sexual predator and did a shit load of gross stuff, but the scene was awkward and felt like they were playing it for laughs "Look the rapist gets raped!". I didn't like that scene.
Spoiler to your spoiler about the boys regarding The deep.
I didn't get the sense they were playing the gill rape for laughs. His later self destructiveness felt like he was blaming his rape on himself.
I mean he's still a shitty rapist himself, but two rapes don't make a right or it right or ok fuck it its just bad ok.
The Deep
I definitely didn't read it as played for laughs
I was cringing and making a fuckin face during that whole scene, it was one of the more nightmarish moments of a show full of 'em
It certainly didn't turn Deep's whole thing on a dime or anything, but it did say a lot about how celebrities are fetisihized to me.
So to me the whole scene felt gross and out of place. But the for laughs part
Is more related to the depression afterwards when they keep playing "everybody hurts" in the background as he slumps around. It felt like they were trying to make his depression post rape a joke. Maybe I'm wrong but thats how it felt to me.
The one who wants to fuck Mat was the dominatrix descendant of Charlemagne.
Not to be confused with the dominatrix ruler of a small city state who also wanted to fuck Mat.
Also perrin, but like, politically
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I remember reading those books and thinking there was a lot of romance and sex as a teenager but it's only as an adult that I look back and realize what an absolute frothing hornfest that series is.
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Huh I got the wires crossed when I heard this was a fantasy
I've been watching some Warrior and it's actually way better than I was expecting. I thought it would be just a silly martial arts fun time, and while it is that, it also has a lot of great performances and drama in it. It's a little too Cinemax in terms of WE CAN SHOW VIOLENCE AND BOOBS but it seems like a lot of fun so far.
It's possible that this is partly because I'm coming off of Wu Assassins.
Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
I remember reading the first Wheel of Time book and deciding it wasn't for me, but that was ages ago. Maybe I should try to read it again.
the first "trilogy" is what I would characterize as Fine, and after that it pretty quickly falls off a cliff. The fifth book particularly is a severe shift in quality.
I remember reading the first Wheel of Time book and deciding it wasn't for me, but that was ages ago. Maybe I should try to read it again.
Most of the particular Jordan 'ticks' don't really start to become a thing till after the first couple books. But we're talking doorstopper sized books here, so when they start to show up they show up a lot.
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I feel like especially if your aim is to have a series go for potentially like a decade
You're gonna wanna get people who don't already have a super established career
There is no immortal ghost lady.
she's an ancient hero who's back to life for reasons I don't remember or care about, its close enough
So to me the whole scene felt gross and out of place. But the for laughs part
she explicitly did not want to fuck mat, they were platonic chums
Yeah, they were just drinking buddies. She's all about her one true love Gaidal Cain.
Now, Mat did otherwise mess around with pretty much anyone else he could. Including 2 monarchs.
Oh, THAT old trope
I'm sorry I got the details of a half remembered book series from 15 years ago wrong
I will take my spankings now
"Stop looking at 'plump' women and get back to the gambling and fighting, what the fuck are you on about"
It's fine.
I used to help run wotmania, so a lot of this shit got seared into my brain.
Not to be confused with the dominatrix ruler of a small city state who also wanted to fuck Mat.
Also perrin, but like, politically
No fucking way they cast Faile at her age, because that was creepy as shit in the books, but in TV that'd be....woof.
It's possible that this is partly because I'm coming off of Wu Assassins.
No, it's that, too.
Jordan just had some fetishes (specifically polyamory and probably submissive tendencies) which really came out in his books.
Also his wife was his editor which makes the whole thing that much more weird.
To be clear
Polyamory as a lifestyle is not a fetish
The way its depicted in the books sure is tho
wasn't faile about the same age as the rest of the main cast?
like, late teens/early twenties?
She's only like 3-4 years younger than the rest, but at the time she starts going hard after Perrin, she's 14, I think it was?
e: I don't remember details, I remember just going "wait, what?" the first time I connected that bit.
e2: https://www.reddit.com/r/WoT/comments/158ivs/how_old_is_faile_exactly/
Looks like it's explicit that she's that age, Perrin's ~roughly~ 20, and Jordan is on record that was a "whoops." Fantastic.
Usually wizards.
this is one of the many reasons I'm excited for the Witcher show
Henry Cavill is your anchor and then I don't know who the hell anyone else is on that thing
Generally they are written by fantasy authors
nerds wanna fuck
I guarantee you that all authors make bigger mistakes than that in first drafts
Sometimes accidents make it through rewrites and editing
oh those jerks
Enough about the reviews of mine on goodreads
the first "trilogy" is what I would characterize as Fine, and after that it pretty quickly falls off a cliff. The fifth book particularly is a severe shift in quality.
Most of the particular Jordan 'ticks' don't really start to become a thing till after the first couple books. But we're talking doorstopper sized books here, so when they start to show up they show up a lot.