I've said it before but I don't see a way that Deadpool doing that sort of thing doesn't kill the movie he's guesting in stone dead. When he's the main character he sets the rules for the movie, when he pops in and does it in someone else's movie that's being played straight he would deflate the tension and break the suspension of disbelief utterly.
Nah, there are plenty of great stories that guest star Deadpool. He shows up in a ton of Wolverine solo outings. IDK if it would necessarily fit with the the old guard X-Men continuity but if anyone can survive the death of one universe and being pulled into a new one it's Ryan Reynolds' Deadpool. Once Upon a Deadpool is proof positive you can make some minor tweaks and pull off a PG-13 rating while still retaining what make it great. The MCU is light hearted enough for a goofball like Deadpool to show up in the background and in minor scenes between solo movies. I could see them recasting Wolverine and pairing him up with Deadpool for a friendly romp through the desert. What I want more than anything is that Thanos X Lady Death X Deadpool storyline.
Great stories in the comics, sure. Which a) is a totally different medium and b) he tones down his fourth wall breaking if he's guesting in someone else's story, often not doing it at all and just being mouthy and cracking wise.
The example I was addressing was him in someone else's movie being maximum fourth-wall breaking Deadpool.
If you kept Deadpool's fourth wall breaking to just looking at the camera and rolling his eyes whenever something especially crazy happens, it'd probably work. Can't overdo it though.
If you kept Deadpool's fourth wall breaking to just looking at the camera and rolling his eyes whenever something especially crazy happens, it'd probably work. Can't overdo it though.
I still think the real way to handle this outside his own movie is to have the movie not pay any attention to it. No camera focus, no audio rebalancing, no pause in the action. He's just randomly talking to empty air before he gets plowed under by some random thrown debris.
If you kept Deadpool's fourth wall breaking to just looking at the camera and rolling his eyes whenever something especially crazy happens, it'd probably work. Can't overdo it though.
Weirdly I feel like the best way to deal with it is have him pop up quickly in the next Dr. Strange.
I hate Fourth Wall breaking because it just pulls me out so fast and I cant get over how it works and whats even happening.
Dr. Strange needs to see him, KNOW exactly what is going on with it, and tell him to knock that shit off if he wants to play nice in this universe.
That means Strange himself is now breaking the fourth wall. This is how Deadpool's presence fucks up the movie. The only way he can guest star is if he doesn't break the fourth wall.
What is Deadpool just... doesn't do any 4th wall breaking and sticks to simple pop culture references? I think one of the Marvel animated movies did that. Granted though at that point he's just a wacky mercenary, not much different than anyone else you've ever seen playing that archetype. But it's better than nothing.
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If he showed up in another person's movie, he should do his wall-breaking thing... only he's not talking to us. He's not breaking our wall.
We just see him looking in an aimless direction as he rambles, and Strange or Groot or whoever just looks at him like WTF. Just to make it clear that from everyone else's perspective, he's cray-cray.
I still think it would’ve been amazing to have Deadpool catch the gauntlet and run for a few seconds screaming “What am I even doing here! I don’t even know you people!” Between Black Panther and Spider-Man.
News coming out of Fox is that all movies pre-production are cancelled if they're not Avatar/Planet of the Apes. Also that all the future superhero reboots are entirely in Marvel's hands.
The Phoenix Force so dangerous it takes out almost an entire movie studio.
News coming out of Fox is that all movies pre-production are cancelled if they're not Avatar/Planet of the Apes. Also that all the future superhero reboots are entirely in Marvel's hands.
The Phoenix Force so dangerous it takes out almost an entire movie studio.
Well that sucks. Not the reboots but a lot of interesting non supers movies probably just got canned.
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I can't help but wonder what's going to happen with New Mutants. It's not due out until April 3rd 2020; plenty of time to make changes to the release venue. I think their best bet would be for a quiet release on Disney+ instead of a full theater release. There's no way it's going to make money after Dark Phoenix bombed so hard. Billing it as the final entry in the old X-Men franchise and using it to sell subscriptions to Disney+ has to be their best bet at this point.
I don't know if they'll do that, not sure how much they want to associate their new service with the death of a franchise. I think it'll get released very quietly, very little if any marketing, and then it'll be out of theaters in 2-3 weeks. It'll be on VOD the very next month so they can sponge up as much money from the home release.
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The Russo Brothers did an AMA in Reddit. A few retread Q&As, but I found this response particularly interesting:
Q: Now that you are done with Marvel (for now?), what other IPs/Franchises would you be interested in exploring? A:Interesting question. We are quietly, and secretly working on one right now...
Secretly, you say...
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The Russo Brothers did an AMA in Reddit. A few retread Q&As, but I found this response particularly interesting:
Q: Now that you are done with Marvel (for now?), what other IPs/Franchises would you be interested in exploring? A:Interesting question. We are quietly, and secretly working on one right now...
So, let’s discuss the pros and cons of wiping all out children under five years old in order reduce the mental trauma of people that were snapped for five years and had family that moved on.
Here’s an image of a baby dusting to really get us into the mind set:
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The main issue, I think, comes down to that five-year gap. I think they went with that to hammer home "we're not just going to hit the reset button", but then I don't know, outside of a Secret-Wars-esque cobbled-together timeline at the end where everything happened and everyone lived, how you come up with a happy-ish ending that doesn't fall apart into existential horror when you spend more than thirty seconds thinking about it.
In all seriousness, I am both surprised and happy that at least part of the snap stuck.
One of the reasons I never got into comics (and sitcoms to a lesser extent) as an entertainment medium, is the reset at the end of a story back to the status quo.
So even with those dusted brought back, there are still real and permanent consequences to the setting: Those that died before the snap (Loki, Heimdall, etc) or indirectly (any passengers in that helicopter or the building it crashed into) are still dead. All those that were not snapped had to live five years with that trauma, move on or not, start new families or not, probably some darker stuff like drug addiction and suicide rates skyrocketing, all that stuff is permanent per what Tony asked Banner to do. Then you have those that came back, seeing a world five years older, with people that have been severely changed and probably not in a good way. Families that were just beginning to mend will probably be ripped apart as vanished partners or children or friends come back.
I like that they not only let the bad guy win but let his win have permanent consequences.
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In all seriousness, I am both surprised and happy that at least part of the snap stuck.
One of the reasons I never got into comics (and sitcoms to a lesser extent) as an entertainment medium, is the reset at the end of a story back to the status quo.
So even with those dusted brought back, there are still real and permanent consequences to the setting: Those that died before the snap (Loki, Heimdall, etc) or indirectly (any passengers in that helicopter or the building it crashed into) are still dead. All those that were not snapped had to live five years with that trauma, move on or not, start new families or not, probably some darker stuff like drug addiction and suicide rates skyrocketing, all that stuff is permanent per what Tony asked Banner to do. Then you have those that came back, seeing a world five years older, with people that have been severely changed and probably not in a good way. Families that were just beginning to mend will probably be ripped apart as vanished partners or children or friends come back.
I like that they not only let the bad guy win but let his win have permanent consequences.
Yeah, but just think about the permanent repercussions of the Avengers having murdered 5 years worth of babies!
Thanos didn't win; if anything the universe is in a worse state, per his goals, than before he started.
He wanted to remove 50% of life in order to create eventual stability, instead half of all life got removed, and while the universe was still stabilizing, they all got returned.
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There used to be two MCU-based threads. One of them was just killed.
Thanos didn't win; if anything the universe is in a worse state, per his goals, than before he started.
He wanted to remove 50% of life in order to create eventual stability, instead half of all life got removed, and while the universe was still stabilizing, they all got returned.
That wasn't ever going to work the way he wanted/thought it would, anyway. It was a stupid, simple answer to a very complex issue.
There was this Marvel animated thing I remember watching on Netflix, I think it was called Hulk Vs...
Well, one of the stories Deadpool appears in it, in the Hulk Vs Wolverine story. Pretty much how I picture how he would land in any MCU stuff, if you need a working example where he isn't the main subject of the story.
There was this Marvel animated thing I remember watching on Netflix, I think it was called Hulk Vs...
Well, one of the stories Deadpool appears in it, in the Hulk Vs Wolverine story. Pretty much how I picture how he would land in any MCU stuff, if you need a working example where he isn't the main subject of the story.
That's about how Deadpool is in the comics when he's in somebody else's comic (unless it's another comedy character, at least*). A little goofy but not in his usual distinguishing way.
*-or one serious to the point of absurdity like his run with Cable.
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There was this Marvel animated thing I remember watching on Netflix, I think it was called Hulk Vs...
Well, one of the stories Deadpool appears in it, in the Hulk Vs Wolverine story. Pretty much how I picture how he would land in any MCU stuff, if you need a working example where he isn't the main subject of the story.
Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige won’t produce any further Spider-Man films because of an inability by Disney and Sony Pictures to reach new terms that would have given the former a co-financing stake going forward. A dispute that has taken place over the past few months at the top of Disney and Sony has essentially nixed Feige, and the future involvement of Marvel from the Spider-Man universe, sources said.
Huh, I think Holland had one more movie left on his contract but all the stuff say it was a Marvel movie. I wonder if he can walk if it reverts to Sony's control or not.
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Nah, there are plenty of great stories that guest star Deadpool. He shows up in a ton of Wolverine solo outings. IDK if it would necessarily fit with the the old guard X-Men continuity but if anyone can survive the death of one universe and being pulled into a new one it's Ryan Reynolds' Deadpool. Once Upon a Deadpool is proof positive you can make some minor tweaks and pull off a PG-13 rating while still retaining what make it great. The MCU is light hearted enough for a goofball like Deadpool to show up in the background and in minor scenes between solo movies. I could see them recasting Wolverine and pairing him up with Deadpool for a friendly romp through the desert. What I want more than anything is that Thanos X Lady Death X Deadpool storyline.
The example I was addressing was him in someone else's movie being maximum fourth-wall breaking Deadpool.
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Sure those can be totally different in tone, like the Cap one after Homecoming.
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I still think the real way to handle this outside his own movie is to have the movie not pay any attention to it. No camera focus, no audio rebalancing, no pause in the action. He's just randomly talking to empty air before he gets plowed under by some random thrown debris.
I hate Fourth Wall breaking because it just pulls me out so fast and I cant get over how it works and whats even happening.
Dr. Strange needs to see him, KNOW exactly what is going on with it, and tell him to knock that shit off if he wants to play nice in this universe.
Have him upstage people in a way.
That means Strange himself is now breaking the fourth wall. This is how Deadpool's presence fucks up the movie. The only way he can guest star is if he doesn't break the fourth wall.
We just see him looking in an aimless direction as he rambles, and Strange or Groot or whoever just looks at him like WTF. Just to make it clear that from everyone else's perspective, he's cray-cray.
Well, not anymore for She-Hulk. Now she's just Hulk but a girl.
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That doesn't really matter for a movie adaptation, though.
The Phoenix Force so dangerous it takes out almost an entire movie studio.
Well that sucks. Not the reboots but a lot of interesting non supers movies probably just got canned.
Q: Now that you are done with Marvel (for now?), what other IPs/Franchises would you be interested in exploring?
A: Interesting question. We are quietly, and secretly working on one right now...
Secretly, you say...
Clearly a community movie.
Here’s an image of a baby dusting to really get us into the mind set:
Battlenet ID: MildC#11186 - If I'm in the game, send me an invite at anytime and I'll play.
One of the reasons I never got into comics (and sitcoms to a lesser extent) as an entertainment medium, is the reset at the end of a story back to the status quo.
So even with those dusted brought back, there are still real and permanent consequences to the setting: Those that died before the snap (Loki, Heimdall, etc) or indirectly (any passengers in that helicopter or the building it crashed into) are still dead. All those that were not snapped had to live five years with that trauma, move on or not, start new families or not, probably some darker stuff like drug addiction and suicide rates skyrocketing, all that stuff is permanent per what Tony asked Banner to do. Then you have those that came back, seeing a world five years older, with people that have been severely changed and probably not in a good way. Families that were just beginning to mend will probably be ripped apart as vanished partners or children or friends come back.
I like that they not only let the bad guy win but let his win have permanent consequences.
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Yeah, but just think about the permanent repercussions of the Avengers having murdered 5 years worth of babies!
He wanted to remove 50% of life in order to create eventual stability, instead half of all life got removed, and while the universe was still stabilizing, they all got returned.
Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
What did it cost?
That wasn't ever going to work the way he wanted/thought it would, anyway. It was a stupid, simple answer to a very complex issue.
Well, one of the stories Deadpool appears in it, in the Hulk Vs Wolverine story. Pretty much how I picture how he would land in any MCU stuff, if you need a working example where he isn't the main subject of the story.
That’s some pretty good Deadpool, only one barely fourth wallish thing “Strike a pose!” and a couple really good lines.
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*-or one serious to the point of absurdity like his run with Cable.
There’s also the “really? You buy that? I woulda figured he’d say “WAAAAGHH! Saber tooth nooooooooo!”
WHELP
Which I can appreciate. Fuck Disney. Shame it's happening to the good good spiderboy though.
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