That mirrors what else I've heard about ASUS. Their product is pretty good quality but God forbid you have an issue.
Have you tried bugging them on Facebook or Twitter? It may not help, but there's a chance they'll actually move it forward.
I'm seriously skeptical about either working compared to a phone call (as useless as the ten phone calls I've made have been), but I went ahead and asked them about my RMA on both. Of course, that could just mean I've begun the 3-week-long Twitter inquiry process.
This for now is a hypothetical, but it's on my mind:
So I bought a new system with a 5700xt.
I am hoping no upgrades on hardware for 3, maybe 4y with that.
My monitor is fairly old. It's a midrange Asus from ca 2010. 1080p, 60hz. It does its job.
I'm not replacing it yet, but comparing its colors with my phones oled is certainly noticeable.
And the lure of freesync is in the back of my head.
However, I feel like a there's a bit of a conundrum:
The 5700xt is pretty good for a 1440p screen, but then probably won't be significantly above 60fps for many AAA titles, and as time goes on that balance gets more difficult.
A 1080p 144hz screen would help on the fps / longevity but seems like a weird sidegrade.
I assume little has changed, and a 1440p screen doesn't nearly display a 1080p image right? Since the pixels don't line up?
So you'd be... upscaling 720p?
A 4k screen could upres 1080p really neatly, but the gpu doesn't really work that well in 4k now, let alone in the future.
And 4k high fps monitors are way more expensive as yet.
Run one card at a time and see if you can help narrow it down that way.
Given the age of the cards and making some assumptions, it's likely one or more of the fans on one of the cards is starting to die and some of the board components could be heating up.
If you're so inclined, remove and clean the heatsink from each card, reapply thermal paste (and thermal pads for the VRMs), and put it all back together. Do a quick but thorough inspection of the board components to look for any obvious thermal damage.
All of that should take you no more than a couple hours. You can check vids on YT for your specific card to help figure out how to take it apart.
If you still get the errors, then that specific card may just be at end-of-life.
A quick google suggests that the SLI bridge could also be a potential culprit. Do you have another one you can swap in to check?
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Possible but not likely: your PSU could be starting to show its age. Check your make and model to see how long the warranty is for it.
Hm. Old posts are saying that they are seeing 43 Error in Win 7 but not Win 8.1. Which version of Windows are you running? Related: other posts are recommending rolling back the drivers and/or selecting Windows 8 drivers.
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I kinda went down a rabbit hole with this, so enjoy.
Really appreciate the effort, which is probably a little wasted on me as things like taking apart my graphics card are a bit beyond my comfort level (haven't assembled my own, just figured this would be a better place to ask). It's helpful to know what the steps would be, and that's probably the push to say it's time to look at upgrading. Think I'm OK running single card for a bit while I figure out what the next step is. Thank you!
Is there a way to tell if I'm bottlenecked or just need more power somewhere - running Control with a i7-6700k @ 4.6 and rtx 2080 with slight overclock as well and sometimes it feels like the scenes need to draw or render in focus. For the most part it's nothing too bad, like not slowing down, I just thought with all that power I'd be running this on high at least.
FYI, while control will let you do stuff like have ray-traced and screen space reflections on at the same time you're just pissing away gpu power.
My guess is that it's just what's to come and we'll see things better optimized in the future. I guess the 2180 or 3080 will do it better. My hope is to never need to spend TI money at some point.
and thought hey, that looks like a neat thing to mess around with for a bit of lower-hassle nostalgia than ebay-ing a vintage PC or something, until I checked out the page for the board:
Oooooouuuch. I guess that's expected for custom-made boutique electronics, but $340 is way beyond impulse buy for a thing that's supposed to mimic the hottest 16-bit hardware of 1983 to run Lotus 1-2-3.
and thought hey, that looks like a neat thing to mess around with for a bit of lower-hassle nostalgia than ebay-ing a vintage PC or something, until I checked out the page for the board:
Oooooouuuch. I guess that's expected for custom-made boutique electronics, but $340 is way beyond impulse buy for a thing that's supposed to mimic the hottest 16-bit hardware of 1983 to run Lotus 1-2-3.
350 bucks is incredibly cheap for custom electronics.
wait is that thing a new old computer with some modern components??
Basically. They took a blank new circuit board and attached a mix of old and new chips to it to make an IBM compatible. They still make a lot of the chips (like the 6502) for embedded systems today.
You know what you could do for less than 350 dollars? Emulate an IBM Compatible PC on modern hardware.
That's kind of missing the point. It's a hobbyist computer. It's not about having the most efficient way of playing old games.
I'm inherently allergic to nostalgia, so yeah, the point goes right over my head. All these new "mini", "classic" devices completely confuse me. I have a Raspberry Pi powerful enough to emulate all of them and it cost me 40 bucks.
You know what you could do for less than 350 dollars? Emulate an IBM Compatible PC on modern hardware.
That's kind of missing the point. It's a hobbyist computer. It's not about having the most efficient way of playing old games.
I'm inherently allergic to nostalgia, so yeah, the point goes right over my head. All these new "mini", "classic" devices completely confuse me. I have a Raspberry Pi powerful enough to emulate all of them and it cost me 40 bucks.
Convenience, simplicity, legality.
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You know what you could do for less than 350 dollars? Emulate an IBM Compatible PC on modern hardware.
That's kind of missing the point. It's a hobbyist computer. It's not about having the most efficient way of playing old games.
I'm inherently allergic to nostalgia, so yeah, the point goes right over my head. All these new "mini", "classic" devices completely confuse me. I have a Raspberry Pi powerful enough to emulate all of them and it cost me 40 bucks.
Some people still develop things on this, even create their own operating systems, and are still pushing the limits of what they can do. A lot of what they do is directly mod the hardware, as well, because owning the hardware is part of what they love.
It's like someone who doesn't play insanely intense games scoffing at someone for spending $1000 on a video card when their mobile GPU is fine for their games in 1368x768.
I saw a thing a while back where there was this lowish end fpga board that microsoft was subsidising to help people get into fpga stuff. Built up a bit of a community that recreated a whole bunch of retro machines with it. Dunno how far up the IBM side things got but I remember seeing amiga's and stuff running perfectly.
Also a shit ton of obscure Russian 8-bit microcomputers because a bunch of nostalgic Russians got into it.
You know what you could do for less than 350 dollars? Emulate an IBM Compatible PC on modern hardware.
That's kind of missing the point. It's a hobbyist computer. It's not about having the most efficient way of playing old games.
I'm inherently allergic to nostalgia, so yeah, the point goes right over my head. All these new "mini", "classic" devices completely confuse me. I have a Raspberry Pi powerful enough to emulate all of them and it cost me 40 bucks.
Excellent! Someone else in the [Flight Sims] thread who also thinks Red Dawn is trash!
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GN shreds the XFX THICC, which is awesome because companies using memes for their actual products deserve failure
That seems quite cheap to me. Looking it up over here, it seems that model might be discontinued, so these are the final few?
The main thing that's on my mind, if you want to spend the next several years in 1080p, at high framerates.
Or if 1440p at significant lower fps is worthwhile.
4k gaming still takes a lot of oomph, and probably buying into a new GPU in a year or two to keep it up.
I'm heavily considering using OT money and maybe holiday/birthday money to spring for a 1440p 144Hz IPS panel and retiring my Monoprice secondary monitor (my current primary Dell TN 1440p panel would then become the secondary)
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I'm seriously skeptical about either working compared to a phone call (as useless as the ten phone calls I've made have been), but I went ahead and asked them about my RMA on both. Of course, that could just mean I've begun the 3-week-long Twitter inquiry process.
So I bought a new system with a 5700xt.
I am hoping no upgrades on hardware for 3, maybe 4y with that.
My monitor is fairly old. It's a midrange Asus from ca 2010. 1080p, 60hz. It does its job.
I'm not replacing it yet, but comparing its colors with my phones oled is certainly noticeable.
And the lure of freesync is in the back of my head.
However, I feel like a there's a bit of a conundrum:
The 5700xt is pretty good for a 1440p screen, but then probably won't be significantly above 60fps for many AAA titles, and as time goes on that balance gets more difficult.
A 1080p 144hz screen would help on the fps / longevity but seems like a weird sidegrade.
I assume little has changed, and a 1440p screen doesn't nearly display a 1080p image right? Since the pixels don't line up?
So you'd be... upscaling 720p?
A 4k screen could upres 1080p really neatly, but the gpu doesn't really work that well in 4k now, let alone in the future.
And 4k high fps monitors are way more expensive as yet.
Now to set up the other box as a FreeNAS / network share.
Really appreciate the effort, which is probably a little wasted on me as things like taking apart my graphics card are a bit beyond my comfort level (haven't assembled my own, just figured this would be a better place to ask). It's helpful to know what the steps would be, and that's probably the push to say it's time to look at upgrading. Think I'm OK running single card for a bit while I figure out what the next step is. Thank you!
FYI, while control will let you do stuff like have ray-traced and screen space reflections on at the same time you're just pissing away gpu power.
Whoever put this together was insane.
In fact I'd say they were a real basket case.
I'd say they have a 0.2% or so chance
Actually shorting out a modern PC without actively sabotaging that shiz is difficult
Inquisitor77: Rius, you are Sisyphus and melee Wizard is your boulder
Tube: This must be what it felt like to be an Iraqi when Saddam was killed
Bookish Stickers - Mrs. Rius' Etsy shop with bumper stickers and vinyl decals.
Make sure you wear your LiveStrong grounding bracelet, though...
Not enough air flow.
and thought hey, that looks like a neat thing to mess around with for a bit of lower-hassle nostalgia than ebay-ing a vintage PC or something, until I checked out the page for the board:
Oooooouuuch. I guess that's expected for custom-made boutique electronics, but $340 is way beyond impulse buy for a thing that's supposed to mimic the hottest 16-bit hardware of 1983 to run Lotus 1-2-3.
350 bucks is incredibly cheap for custom electronics.
Basically. They took a blank new circuit board and attached a mix of old and new chips to it to make an IBM compatible. They still make a lot of the chips (like the 6502) for embedded systems today.
Nitro+ RX 5700 XT is in stock as of 30 minutes ago. Won't be for long.
I'm torn. It's $500 after shipping. I could go for a 2070 Super for that price.
Edit: They just raised the price from $460 to $470.
That's kind of missing the point. It's a hobbyist computer. It's not about having the most efficient way of playing old games.
Oof, my wallet. At least my 2080ti won't be bottle necked any more...
Edit: the 212 Evo is for a friend's upcoming build, will likely used the stock Wraith cooler until my water cooling loop later in the year.
Double Edit: Why the fuck did I write my edit as a comment? NOBODY KNOWS.
I'm inherently allergic to nostalgia, so yeah, the point goes right over my head. All these new "mini", "classic" devices completely confuse me. I have a Raspberry Pi powerful enough to emulate all of them and it cost me 40 bucks.
Convenience, simplicity, legality.
Some people still develop things on this, even create their own operating systems, and are still pushing the limits of what they can do. A lot of what they do is directly mod the hardware, as well, because owning the hardware is part of what they love.
It's like someone who doesn't play insanely intense games scoffing at someone for spending $1000 on a video card when their mobile GPU is fine for their games in 1368x768.
Also a shit ton of obscure Russian 8-bit microcomputers because a bunch of nostalgic Russians got into it.
Excellent! Someone else in the [Flight Sims] thread who also thinks Red Dawn is trash!
At this point I'm 95% on holding out for the next Navi rather than dealing with the 5700XT's scarcity pricing and "almost ready" drivers
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824475003
snagging 2 of them (gsync)
That seems quite cheap to me. Looking it up over here, it seems that model might be discontinued, so these are the final few?
The main thing that's on my mind, if you want to spend the next several years in 1080p, at high framerates.
Or if 1440p at significant lower fps is worthwhile.
4k gaming still takes a lot of oomph, and probably buying into a new GPU in a year or two to keep it up.
I opened up my ten year old IBM Thinkpad today and the right hinge completely failed and ripped off the base of the model.
So probably time for a new laptop.
My gaming needs are at least three years behind the new hotness.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1470614-REG/lenovo_81n8009fus_s340_i5_8265u_12gb_512gb.html
Generally, check Asus, Lenovo, MSI, Dell. I'm not a HP fan but others are.
If you have access to a store like Costco, they have very good offerings.
Best Buy isn't a horrible place to showroom multiple brands and types.