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    Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    I add up all the numbers on each of the cards and then draft the ones with the biggest numbers.

    You cant argue with math.

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    WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    It's kind of hard to completely ignore Food when multiple colors have themes based around it as a mechanic. UW's enchantment & artifact theme is possible partly because Food is available, and BG's whole theme is Food-based. You can ignore Food if you end up in colors that don't care about artifacts, sacrificing, life-gain, or stuff that wants Food, but you can't just pretend it doesn't exist going in.

    There's a difference between "I'm going to ignore Food when evaluating cards for draft unless I'm already in cares-about-food" vs "I'm going to pretend it doesn't exist." If I'm in Green at the end of pack 1 and I've already drafted two Fierce Witchstalkers and a Golden Egg, my evaluation of Food cards is going to go up. But my initial evaluation is going to be based around how good the card is if the synergy fizzles on me.

    The context for this conversation is "how valuable is Food on its own" and the answer is "not very much."

    Right. Though I find specifically for drafts (and I'm not sure whether or not this reflects poorly on me as a player), after I've done a few drafts in a set I almost always default to drafting for archetype over drafting for individual card strength. Half way through pack 1 I'm usually settled on what my strategy is and p2p1 or p3p1 generally only amount to making me splash at most. So I usually stop comparing cards on individual value and start comparing them on "what fits in the deck I want to make" and I don't really budge much past forcing my vision for my final deck. Granted I think this strategy works a lot better when you're drafting against a robot on arena than when you're drafting against actual people.

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    GarthorGarthor Registered User regular
    I add up all the numbers on each of the cards and then draft the ones with the biggest numbers.

    You cant argue with math.

    What if a card has X on it?

    What if it has multiple Xs on it?

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    WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    I add up all the numbers on each of the cards and then draft the ones with the biggest numbers.

    You cant argue with math.

    I draft all big numbers until pack three and then I panic and just auto-pick anything that costs 2 mana.

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    Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    Garthor wrote: »
    I add up all the numbers on each of the cards and then draft the ones with the biggest numbers.

    You cant argue with math.

    What if a card has X on it?

    What if it has multiple Xs on it?

    X is a letter Garthor

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    WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    Garthor wrote: »
    I add up all the numbers on each of the cards and then draft the ones with the biggest numbers.

    You cant argue with math.

    What if a card has X on it?

    What if it has multiple Xs on it?

    X is the biggest number

    Theoretically it is infinite!

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    GarthorGarthor Registered User regular
    Winky wrote: »
    Garthor wrote: »
    I add up all the numbers on each of the cards and then draft the ones with the biggest numbers.

    You cant argue with math.

    What if a card has X on it?

    What if it has multiple Xs on it?

    X is the biggest number

    Theoretically it is infinite!

    Theoretically it is limitless, not infinite. Because infinity isn't a number.

    There are rules.

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    ElbasunuElbasunu Registered User regular
    Big numbers in the bottom. Little numbers in the top. Flying.

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    WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
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    Rowan, Fearless Snarkmage

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    Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    Sure when you draw-go its called playing control and everyone applauds but when I draw-go for 6 turns before I can afford anything Im some kind of scrub.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2019
    Winky wrote: »
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    Rowan, Fearless Snarkmage

    So, so snarky.

    EDIT: Also kinda shitty?

    Munkus Beaver on
    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    Winky wrote: »
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    Rowan, Fearless Snarkmage

    So, so snarky.

    EDIT: Also kinda shitty?

    At first blush, but +3/0 First Strike is actually a stronger ability than it seems, and I like the -9 except for the fact there is no way she ever gets to 9. She doesn't really defend herself, though.

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    it's a planeswalker deck planeswalker; they're supposed to be shitty

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
    it's a planeswalker deck planeswalker; they're supposed to be shitty

    I figured as much

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    Winky wrote: »
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    Rowan, Fearless Snarkmage

    So, so snarky.

    EDIT: Also kinda shitty?

    Shes ok. Her abilities fit well in mardu knights

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    Winky wrote: »
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    Rowan, Fearless Snarkmage

    So, so snarky.

    EDIT: Also kinda shitty?

    Shes ok. Her abilities fit well in mardu knights

    Not at 5 cmc they do not. It’s a starter deck walker and meant to introduce new players to walkers but not be competitive

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    it's five mana for +3/+0 and first strike.

    That's bad.

    Intentionally bad.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
    it's a planeswalker deck planeswalker; they're supposed to be shitty

    You say that (and I agree) but I like Oko the Trickster. Not for anything competitive but he fits the GU planeswalker role in my cube better than the BFZ Kiora I have in there now.

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    FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    I should get a couple of Rowans and find an artist to alter them with Rowan Atkinson's face.

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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    FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    it's a planeswalker deck planeswalker; they're supposed to be shitty

    You say that (and I agree) but I like Oko the Trickster. Not for anything competitive but he fits the GU planeswalker role in my cube better than the BFZ Kiora I have in there now.

    You can turn him into a creature and then use Vorel of the Hull Clade to double the counters on him.

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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    Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    I should get a couple of Rowans and find an artist to alter them with Rowan Atkinson's face.

    Yes, obviously

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    A walker copying a creature is definitely an interesting and unique ability, those are always fun for cube.

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    ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    I think a good way to spot a walker deck walker is that they are consistently 2 cmc more than they should be to be competitive

    fuck gendered marketing
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    WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    Oko’s abs though

    Like seriously

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    VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    it's a planeswalker deck planeswalker; they're supposed to be shitty

    You say that (and I agree) but I like Oko the Trickster. Not for anything competitive but he fits the GU planeswalker role in my cube better than the BFZ Kiora I have in there now.

    You can turn him into a creature and then use Vorel of the Hull Clade to double the counters on him.

    That is in fact a thing you can do in my cube.

    Which might be the only reason to use his 0 instead of his +1? Unless copying something just gives you the win then and there.

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    DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    I broke a flash player's brain by getting Vivien's Arcbow out and never casting anything from my hand.

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    DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    man i'm on a roll! Next up was a super friends deck and I got an Immortal Sun out

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    EnigmedicEnigmedic Registered User regular
    DanHibiki wrote: »
    I broke a flash player's brain by getting Vivien's Arcbow out and never casting anything from my hand.

    A good flash player would have just dumped every creature they had on the board and raced. And that was how i remembered ug madness was a fun tempo deck not some stupid 40 counterspell deck.

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    ManetherenWolfManetherenWolf Registered User regular
    So whats the verdict on trackers?

    I see like 5 or so of them, but I dont know anything about them or whats worth using.

    Also: got to 80 on my M20 Pass. went ahead and bought the 81st for the chandra spell style, and calling it there.

    I also decided to splurge since yesterday was my birthday and preorder the 50 pack Eldraine bundle (and I've got just about enough saved for the pass too).

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    initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    Enigmedic wrote: »
    DanHibiki wrote: »
    I broke a flash player's brain by getting Vivien's Arcbow out and never casting anything from my hand.

    A good flash player would have just dumped every creature they had on the board and raced. And that was how i remembered ug madness was a fun tempo deck not some stupid 40 counterspell deck.

    ambush viper is not so secretly the best thing about snapcaster mage and it's correct far more often than players recognize to just fire off a flash creature

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    Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    I should get a couple of Rowans and find an artist to alter them with Rowan Atkinson's face.

    @Feral

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    WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    That's awesome. But also, that's terrible.

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    EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    "Roper" and "red" both starting with R seems like more than a mere coincidence.

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    ChaosHatChaosHat Hop, hop, hop, HA! Trick of the lightRegistered User regular
    Especially when you consider "Will" and "Water" both start with a W and Islands have water and what color are ISLANDS?!

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    WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    I woke up early this morning thinking I could play eldraine when the timers ran down :(

    What time can we actually start playing the new set?

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    KetBraKetBra Dressed Ridiculously Registered User regular
    In three hours, I think?

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    YiliasYilias Registered User regular
    ChaosHat wrote: »
    Especially when you consider "Will" and "Water" both start with a W and Islands have water and what color are ISLANDS?!

    Colorless like all lands are

    Steam - BNet: Yilias #1224 - Riot: Yilias #moc
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    DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    Oh shit. I thought that was tomorrow for some reason and totally left 3 daily quests to rot.

    Dang.

    Oh well, was already level 100 but my gold my GOLD!

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    WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    Oh shit. I thought that was tomorrow for some reason and totally left 3 daily quests to rot.

    Dang.

    Oh well, was already level 100 but my gold my GOLD!

    Quests appear to be bugged at the moment anyway. Mine's sat at 19/20 for several games now.

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    ChaosHatChaosHat Hop, hop, hop, HA! Trick of the lightRegistered User regular
    Oh shit. I thought that was tomorrow for some reason and totally left 3 daily quests to rot.

    Dang.

    Oh well, was already level 100 but my gold my GOLD!

    Quests appear to be bugged at the moment anyway. Mine's sat at 19/20 for several games now.

    That's why I woke up real early to finish those quests!

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