Also for some reason the Mirror March tokens get exiled (not sacrificed), while Chandra's tokens get sacrificed.
That's a power level thing. Copy tokens often exile so you don't get dies triggers in addition to ETB triggers on whatever it is you copy. Chandra's tokens don't have any enters/leaves effects on their own so they can be sacrificed without additional concerns. They're not super consistent on this (Feldon of the Third Path and Kiki-Jiki both sacrifice their tokens, for instance) but it's a decent rule of thumb.
More expensive too, at least in paper. Im sure something will get banned on monday. Theyre trying to hype up the endless mirrors but it just comes down to who can slam oko and nissa first.
KalTorakOne way or another, they all end up inthe Undercity.Registered Userregular
I get that they wanted Oko to be able to animate his Food and sort of neutralize hostile creatures, but that ability really is just "let's make all these interesting cards that do stuff just do nothing anymore." Between him and Teferi, why play non-planeswlker permanents at all.
Also was there a Tarmogoyf-esque mistake that made the animation ability a +1 instead of a -1? The built-in planeswalker downside of "dies to creatures" doesn't really apply when it's a 3-drop with a giant pile of hitpoints that never gets smaller.
More expensive too, at least in paper. Im sure something will get banned on monday. Theyre trying to hype up the endless mirrors but it just comes down to who can slam oko and nissa first.
Mengucci's deck from Mythic V looks to me to be one of the most fun, for some value of fun. Ignoring the sideboard, you have:
Rares:
4 Gilded Goose
2 Once Upon A Time
4 Deputy of Detention
4 Wicked Wolf
4 Nissa, Who Shakes the World
4 Hallowed Fountain
4 Temple Garden
4 Breeding Pool
3 Fabled Passage
9 basic lands, 2 Commons, 4 Uncommons, 33 Rares and 12 Mythics. If apples were oranges and this was Hearthstone, it'd be a 33,000 dust deck. While MTGA is more generous in giving packs and cards, you're also less likely to get what you need from a pack, and you can't turn your dozens or hundreds of Common and Uncommon wild cards into Rares and Mythics.
And then some decks, particularly Fires decks, are pushing over 40 rares, typically with minimal drop in Mythic count.
It's one of the reasons that I like to stick to drafts as much as I can. FOMO led to me prioritizing the Mu sleeves for my gems rather than the Mastery pass, leading to needing to save all of my gems rather than reinvesting in drafts (I average out to a 4 win player, which is fine but not infinite) in order to get the Mastery pass, and having nothing but Standard most days for a few weeks was painful.
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Yukuhiro playing Mardu knights like a real gentleman.
Embercleave is my favorite card in the set.
Except of course when it's used against me.
He went 2-1 against Simic Food without ever drawing it
All part of the RNG. You’re guaranteed a couple of non-games a day on stream that are decided by deck order, and never drawing X or being mana flooded or mana screwed.
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Lee Shi Tian piloting mono red, making top 8, beating another Golos/Field deck.
You either die a villain, or live long enough to see yourself become the hero.
I appreciate his scarf as well.
Its a mask like the hong kong protesters as he is from there.
I would totally be able to play the bant/simic decks with minimal further investment online. At one point i dumped all my wildcards into the nissa mass manipulation deck. So i would just need a few eldrain cards.
Yukuhiro playing Mardu knights like a real gentleman.
Embercleave is my favorite card in the set.
Except of course when it's used against me.
I am relatively appreciative of it even when played against me because Embercleave at least kills me in one simple, quick package, instead of making me wait for a million triggers and three turns to make absolutely sure there's enough zombies to kill me.
They probably should hit Oko as well, but at least they are watching it.
Time to start running 4x Noxious Grasp main deck.
I mean they maybe should have hit Oko because his numbers are pushed past breaking and his huge impact on the current meta but as they state in the announcement B&R prefer to keep their bans as conservative as possible
Also Oko is like, the shiny new mythic walker from the set that just released and banning him instead of a rare land from a set ago would probably seriously hurt current set sales. Also piss off a bunch of people who literally just bought Oko playsets
i've played a draft and a half today and I just can't get into the format, also i don't like the format, these mysteries may be intertwined. i'm like 2-10 in this format.
i've played a draft and a half today and I just can't get into the format, also i don't like the format, these mysteries may be intertwined. i'm like 2-10 in this format.
Those are probably related.
I like it, though I've mainly had 3-4 win drafts other than a 7-2 with an absolutely broken mono-U mill deck. Aggro seems weak and near-stalls are pretty common, but there are plenty of combos and plays that can break up a stall even aside from bombs.
I lost a game yesterday by forgetting the "exile target card from a graveyard" mode on Return to Nature, which let my opponent recur a key spell with the blue land. That was painful but in a cool way.
i've played a draft and a half today and I just can't get into the format, also i don't like the format, these mysteries may be intertwined. i'm like 2-10 in this format.
As someone who has many posts in here about being terrible at drafting I finally found fairly consistent success after I gave up all of that nonsense where you try to flex your draft muscle.
I started just forcing archetypes that are both straight forward to play in the format and easy to force due to reliance on commons and uncommons.
My records went from almost always negative with the very rare even run to almost always positive with the occasional even run and 7 win runs.
Although that is probably a boring way for many people to play. But winning and actually turning coins in to good amounts of gems feels pretty good to me.
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enjoy limited a lot, but not this limited
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There's a lot of stuff and on-board tricks that people miss that you can exploit. Usually around sacrificing or adventures. Like pro-tip Gingerbrute is food. Use Faerie Godmother to break Trapped in the Tower. For the love of god sac stuff targeted by Bake in a Pie if you can. Or use it to crew a carriage before they die. If you get something targeted by an adventure like Queen of Ice, consider bouncing or sacrificing it if you can; or if they're trying to buff something of theirs and you have a removal spell you're saving, get that two for one; if an adventure can't resolve, they can't cast the creature half later!
Also just read cards, that red trebuchet thing has reach and I ran a Tome Raider into it the other night feelin real dumb.
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yeah having a sac outlet handy like the black bear who eats creatures and artifacts or Witch's Oven is real useful
also I've been running into a few pseudo-Bogle decks that make Gingerbrute and Princess really big and mostly-unblockable. Seems fun but really vulnerable to black removal and bounce.
yeah having a sac outlet handy like the black bear who eats creatures and artifacts or Witch's Oven is real useful
also I've been running into a few pseudo-Bogle decks that make Gingerbrute and Princess really big and mostly-unblockable. Seems fun but really vulnerable to black removal and bounce.
I think witch’s oven in particular had been very underrated when the set was revealed. It’s really, really good in limited
I really wish that there was an in-game way to see your draft deck after you lose three or win seven.
I was at 6-2 with a mono white knights deck and I realized about a second too late that I hadn’t screenshotted it. With my final game over, I can claim my prize, but I can’t see my deck. And yes, I could play a deck tracker, I know. QQ, etc.
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I really wish that there was an in-game way to see your draft deck after you lose three or win seven.
I was at 6-2 with a mono white knights deck and I realized about a second too late that I hadn’t screenshotted it. With my final game over, I can claim my prize, but I can’t see my deck. And yes, I could play a deck tracker, I know. QQ, etc.
I think if you run a deck tracker now it can still pull the decklist from your logs.
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That's a power level thing. Copy tokens often exile so you don't get dies triggers in addition to ETB triggers on whatever it is you copy. Chandra's tokens don't have any enters/leaves effects on their own so they can be sacrificed without additional concerns. They're not super consistent on this (Feldon of the Third Path and Kiki-Jiki both sacrifice their tokens, for instance) but it's a decent rule of thumb.
More expensive too, at least in paper. Im sure something will get banned on monday. Theyre trying to hype up the endless mirrors but it just comes down to who can slam oko and nissa first.
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Also was there a Tarmogoyf-esque mistake that made the animation ability a +1 instead of a -1? The built-in planeswalker downside of "dies to creatures" doesn't really apply when it's a 3-drop with a giant pile of hitpoints that never gets smaller.
I have a version that's a big sack of rats, when it goes off it's brilliant
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Mengucci's deck from Mythic V looks to me to be one of the most fun, for some value of fun. Ignoring the sideboard, you have:
Rares:
4 Gilded Goose
2 Once Upon A Time
4 Deputy of Detention
4 Wicked Wolf
4 Nissa, Who Shakes the World
4 Hallowed Fountain
4 Temple Garden
4 Breeding Pool
3 Fabled Passage
Mythics:
4 Oko, Thief of Crowns
4 Questing Beast
4 Hydroid Krasis
9 basic lands, 2 Commons, 4 Uncommons, 33 Rares and 12 Mythics. If apples were oranges and this was Hearthstone, it'd be a 33,000 dust deck. While MTGA is more generous in giving packs and cards, you're also less likely to get what you need from a pack, and you can't turn your dozens or hundreds of Common and Uncommon wild cards into Rares and Mythics.
And then some decks, particularly Fires decks, are pushing over 40 rares, typically with minimal drop in Mythic count.
It's one of the reasons that I like to stick to drafts as much as I can. FOMO led to me prioritizing the Mu sleeves for my gems rather than the Mastery pass, leading to needing to save all of my gems rather than reinvesting in drafts (I average out to a 4 win player, which is fine but not infinite) in order to get the Mastery pass, and having nothing but Standard most days for a few weeks was painful.
Embercleave is my favorite card in the set.
Except of course when it's used against me.
He went 2-1 against Simic Food without ever drawing it
All part of the RNG. You’re guaranteed a couple of non-games a day on stream that are decided by deck order, and never drawing X or being mana flooded or mana screwed.
Lee Shi Tian piloting mono red, making top 8, beating another Golos/Field deck.
You either die a villain, or live long enough to see yourself become the hero.
I appreciate his scarf as well.
Its a mask like the hong kong protesters as he is from there.
I would totally be able to play the bant/simic decks with minimal further investment online. At one point i dumped all my wildcards into the nissa mass manipulation deck. So i would just need a few eldrain cards.
Steam: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198004484595
I am relatively appreciative of it even when played against me because Embercleave at least kills me in one simple, quick package, instead of making me wait for a million triggers and three turns to make absolutely sure there's enough zombies to kill me.
Young Chandra killed sooo many cats...
You running rakdos or mardu aristos?
Rakdos. I just can't get mardu to be fast enough, though I might re-visit that.
I feel that mardu will be just plain better as a Knights deck rather than aristocrats.
I took a break from drafts to try the Eldraine event.
2 Rimrock Knight (ELD) 137
4 Fervent Champion (ELD) 124
10 Plains (ANA) 61
4 Bonecrusher Giant (ELD) 115
2 Embereth Shieldbreaker (ELD) 122
4 Venerable Knight (ELD) 35
9 Mountain (ANA) 64
4 Worthy Knight (ELD) 36
4 Inspiring Veteran (ELD) 194
4 Acclaimed Contender (ELD) 1
2 Slaying Fire (ELD) 143
4 Glass Casket (ELD) 15
4 Scorching Dragonfire (ELD) 139
2 Castle Embereth (ELD) 239
1 Castle Ardenvale (ELD) 238
5-1, the loss was to a mirror. Embereth Shieldbreaker was the surprising MVP, coming up as a topdeck to kill Ovens more than once.
Also, I kept wondering why I wasn't seeing any of my Tournament grounds. . . oops.
Justice was served. GRUUL SMASH wins MC V.
Timmy's everywhere rejoice.
They probably should hit Oko as well, but at least they are watching it.
Time to start running 4x Noxious Grasp main deck.
I mean they maybe should have hit Oko because his numbers are pushed past breaking and his huge impact on the current meta but as they state in the announcement B&R prefer to keep their bans as conservative as possible
Also Oko is like, the shiny new mythic walker from the set that just released and banning him instead of a rare land from a set ago would probably seriously hurt current set sales. Also piss off a bunch of people who literally just bought Oko playsets
Oh well *goes back to playing Esper Stax*
No this is your punishment
IIRC Nexus was only available via WC. Or was there a big pack bundle too?
That's true and I'd forgotten about it, but imo it shouldn't matter.
Those are probably related.
I like it, though I've mainly had 3-4 win drafts other than a 7-2 with an absolutely broken mono-U mill deck. Aggro seems weak and near-stalls are pretty common, but there are plenty of combos and plays that can break up a stall even aside from bombs.
I lost a game yesterday by forgetting the "exile target card from a graveyard" mode on Return to Nature, which let my opponent recur a key spell with the blue land. That was painful but in a cool way.
As someone who has many posts in here about being terrible at drafting I finally found fairly consistent success after I gave up all of that nonsense where you try to flex your draft muscle.
I started just forcing archetypes that are both straight forward to play in the format and easy to force due to reliance on commons and uncommons.
My records went from almost always negative with the very rare even run to almost always positive with the occasional even run and 7 win runs.
Although that is probably a boring way for many people to play. But winning and actually turning coins in to good amounts of gems feels pretty good to me.
Also just read cards, that red trebuchet thing has reach and I ran a Tome Raider into it the other night feelin real dumb.
Switch - SW-7373-3669-3011
Fuck Joe Manchin
also I've been running into a few pseudo-Bogle decks that make Gingerbrute and Princess really big and mostly-unblockable. Seems fun but really vulnerable to black removal and bounce.
I think witch’s oven in particular had been very underrated when the set was revealed. It’s really, really good in limited
I really wish that there was an in-game way to see your draft deck after you lose three or win seven.
I was at 6-2 with a mono white knights deck and I realized about a second too late that I hadn’t screenshotted it. With my final game over, I can claim my prize, but I can’t see my deck. And yes, I could play a deck tracker, I know. QQ, etc.
I think if you run a deck tracker now it can still pull the decklist from your logs.