they salivated over Ghosts of Tsushima and then it gets cut in favour of two games that are just representations of the regular ole world.
I don't if I have strong feelings either way but isn't Ghosts also kind of just a representation of the real world too?
I personally felt TLoU2 did a bit more with it's world design but I probably could have gone with any of their choices amongst the various open world games.
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I actually think any of the top 4-5 nominees in Best Visual would have deserved a spot, but the final podium is actually a really excellent spread of variety. You have one game that is a superlative artistic expression of pure fantasy, one game that chases cinematic "realism" in a fantastical depiction of human society, and one 'game' whose objective is neutral, high-fidelity simulation of the world using expression of technology to its current limits to the point at which it holds real artistic value in of itself.
I'd have swapped out any of those action-adventure games interchangeably, to be honest.
they salivated over Ghosts of Tsushima and then it gets cut in favour of two games that are just representations of the regular ole world.
I don't if I have strong feelings either way but isn't Ghosts also kind of just a representation of the real world too?
I personally felt TLoU2 did a bit more with it's world design but I probably could have gone with any of their choices amongst the various open world games.
Never played it, don't own a PS but what I had seen it looked more interesting and fantastical than TLOU2 which ... did not look interesting at all, visually.
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I think TLOU2 is the only one there that didn't deserve it, personally
Honeybee Inn got snubbed, not even listed or talked about. I dunno if I've ever enjoyed a moment in a game more than that. It was just so silly and fun.
Jeff dying giggling in the background while Jason rants about Phantasy Star Online 2 was amazing. And I can't wait to see Brad get into Warcraft III: Reforged.
How badly does bugsnax get spoiled on Day 4? That's kind of the only game I'm really spoiler-adverse for that I haven't played. The mention there are spoilers in teh list itself and I want to know if I can just mute it when it comes up or if I'm just screwed.
How badly does bugsnax get spoiled on Day 4? That's kind of the only game I'm really spoiler-adverse for that I haven't played. The mention there are spoilers in teh list itself and I want to know if I can just mute it when it comes up or if I'm just screwed.
They explicitly give away the ending.
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How badly does bugsnax get spoiled on Day 4? That's kind of the only game I'm really spoiler-adverse for that I haven't played. The mention there are spoilers in teh list itself and I want to know if I can just mute it when it comes up or if I'm just screwed.
They explicitly give away the ending.
Do you think I can just mute it, or is it written out too?
How badly does bugsnax get spoiled on Day 4? That's kind of the only game I'm really spoiler-adverse for that I haven't played. The mention there are spoilers in teh list itself and I want to know if I can just mute it when it comes up or if I'm just screwed.
They get into it on Day 3 as well during the second category.
After the like 20 minutes Jan spent describing 13 Sentinels, I was not expecting him to kill it so quickly at the end.
I'm a casual giant bomb watcher, but this totally seems to be their thing. "I loved this, let me talk sweetly of it until I discard it for whatever else."
Since I had no horse in the race all I wanted was a particular entrant to get cut and Vinny was the hero who made it finally happen.
Fuck you The Last Of Us 2. You may be gorgeous, and play well, and have great accessibility. But you're also one of the the most miserable, mean-spirited, unpleasant, awful pieces of media i've ever seen.
Whoops I read Alex's list and now I'm crying forever
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Even back when Alex had only mentioned it off-hand in earlier Beastcasts (and on Twitter) about Thelma's passing in the context of playing Spiritfarer - as someone who played the game I found it easy to imagine how incredibly gut-wrenching the Everdoor sequences would have been for him, but by him having been affected by proximity to his grieving process I didn't realise he meant literally day zero
Like fuck I get upset just thinking back to those sequences without having to deal with actual real-life grieving in my headspace, I cannot imagine how dialled up to eleven hundred that would have been doing what Alex did.
The game is, on paper, pretty simple. Not revolutionary, but the way it executes for players who are capable of even a shred of empathy is really, really profound. It's one of those few media that I'm so glad to have played through it but I don't think I could find the mental fortitude in me to play it again anytime soon
Even back when Alex had only mentioned it off-hand in earlier Beastcasts (and on Twitter) about Thelma's passing in the context of playing Spiritfarer - as someone who played the game I found it easy to imagine how incredibly gut-wrenching the Everdoor sequences would have been for him, but by him having been affected by proximity to his grieving process I didn't realise he meant literally day zero
Like fuck I get upset just thinking back to those sequences without having to deal with actual real-life grieving in my headspace, I cannot imagine how dialled up to eleven hundred that would have been doing what Alex did.
The game is, on paper, pretty simple. Not revolutionary, but the way it executes for players who are capable of even a shred of empathy is really, really profound. It's one of those few media that I'm so glad to have played through it but I don't think I could find the mental fortitude in me to play it again anytime soon
I wish I had a similar reaction they did to the ending.
The game did affect me pretty heavily early on, and especially when Astrid said she was ready to go, but by late game the tedious game mechanics and how awful Bruce & Mickey are had worn me down to the point I just wanted it to be over. I also didn't get any of those specific plot details they talked about for the main character, I dunno if I just missed it or what.
I can't believe a mediocre looking pack in game was middle of the top 10. It seriously appears to coast on nostalgia. (Which they even admit to.)
It's also disheartening that a remake wound up on there.
is this a joke?
Astro's Playroom is one of the best games I played this year. I'm not a Sony guy, I never even owned a PS1 or PS2, it is just an incredibly well designed and fun game.
Regarding Tony Hawk, I can't really speak to it, but the Giantbomb guys LOVE those games. Of course it was going to be there since it appears to actually be well made unlike pro skater 5.
If a remake is actually really good I don't understand why it would be disqualified.
The problem with a lot of remakes is that they are bad or unnecessary or both. If a remake is bad it won't make it onto the list, and any game even a brand new one can be unnecessary and so also won't make it onto a list.
Remakes actually have an even harder time getting to this point just because of the inherent bias against them. That THPS1+2 made it that far shows how good it is and how much they loved it.
I don't hate that they picked those things, I'm just somewhat disappointed by what it suggests. The appearance of Minecraft (now with better lighting) appearing on a number of staff lists - seriously, there was such a shortage of good games that we had to go back and pad lists with something that came out 10 years ago? I get that they played it a bunch earlier this year, but isn't it a game of the year list and not game of 10 years ago list? I'm sure I come off as a crank, but the inclusion of old ass games and remakes feels disheartening because it suggests the industry couldn't come up with something new.
I can't believe a mediocre looking pack in game was middle of the top 10. It seriously appears to coast on nostalgia. (Which they even admit to.)
It's also disheartening that a remake wound up on there.
Astro is legit one of the best 3D platformers in years and maybe THE best outside of Nintendo. It also showed the potential of the PS5 Dualsense in fantastic ways that could easily have come off as
Dumb and gimmicky. It is without a doubt the thing that Every PS5 owner should play first.
I’d have been disappointed if it DIDNT make the cut.
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I don't hate that they picked those things, I'm just somewhat disappointed by what it suggests. The appearance of Minecraft (now with better lighting) appearing on a number of staff lists - seriously, there was such a shortage of good games that we had to go back and pad lists with something that came out 10 years ago? I get that they played it a bunch earlier this year, but isn't it a game of the year list and not game of 10 years ago list? I'm sure I come off as a crank, but the inclusion of old ass games and remakes feels disheartening because it suggests the industry couldn't come up with something new.
but it's what they liked this year, not what you liked this year, or what the industry made this year.
I don't hate that they picked those things, I'm just somewhat disappointed by what it suggests. The appearance of Minecraft (now with better lighting) appearing on a number of staff lists - seriously, there was such a shortage of good games that we had to go back and pad lists with something that came out 10 years ago? I get that they played it a bunch earlier this year, but isn't it a game of the year list and not game of 10 years ago list? I'm sure I come off as a crank, but the inclusion of old ass games and remakes feels disheartening because it suggests the industry couldn't come up with something new.
but it's what they liked this year, not what you liked this year, or what the industry made this year.
It was also made this year. Just cause the original game was released 20 years ago doesn't invalidate the work that was put into the new version.
Yeah, like THPS 1+2 is not a straight port of the original games, like the Spongebob or Destroy All Humans remasters.
It's the content from the original games, completely remade visually, plus almost double the amount of skaters and music, brand new create a park mode, create-a-skater which wasn't in those games including 100s of parts, a new trick system that adds in stuff from the later games, and more.
I don't hate that they picked those things, I'm just somewhat disappointed by what it suggests. The appearance of Minecraft (now with better lighting) appearing on a number of staff lists - seriously, there was such a shortage of good games that we had to go back and pad lists with something that came out 10 years ago? I get that they played it a bunch earlier this year, but isn't it a game of the year list and not game of 10 years ago list? I'm sure I come off as a crank, but the inclusion of old ass games and remakes feels disheartening because it suggests the industry couldn't come up with something new.
They got really into Minecraft this year. They played it a bunch as a group and some of them, like Jeff, got into it enough to play on their own or on other servers, too. Just because it didn't come out this year doesn't mean it wasn't an important game to them this year and thus deserving of a spot on their lists.
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I don't if I have strong feelings either way but isn't Ghosts also kind of just a representation of the real world too?
I personally felt TLoU2 did a bit more with it's world design but I probably could have gone with any of their choices amongst the various open world games.
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I'd have swapped out any of those action-adventure games interchangeably, to be honest.
Never played it, don't own a PS but what I had seen it looked more interesting and fantastical than TLOU2 which ... did not look interesting at all, visually.
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They explicitly give away the ending.
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Do you think I can just mute it, or is it written out too?
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They get into it on Day 3 as well during the second category.
I'm a casual giant bomb watcher, but this totally seems to be their thing. "I loved this, let me talk sweetly of it until I discard it for whatever else."
Totally agree with Brad,
I'm so glad they brought back a negative category. Listen to these guys tear deserving stuff to shreds is incredibly cathartic.
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very happy with that list.
Since I had no horse in the race all I wanted was a particular entrant to get cut and Vinny was the hero who made it finally happen.
Like fuck I get upset just thinking back to those sequences without having to deal with actual real-life grieving in my headspace, I cannot imagine how dialled up to eleven hundred that would have been doing what Alex did.
The game is, on paper, pretty simple. Not revolutionary, but the way it executes for players who are capable of even a shred of empathy is really, really profound. It's one of those few media that I'm so glad to have played through it but I don't think I could find the mental fortitude in me to play it again anytime soon
Edit: to be clear, I mean the site lists. I see the people's lists.
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It's also disheartening that a remake wound up on there.
I wish I had a similar reaction they did to the ending.
The game did affect me pretty heavily early on, and especially when Astrid said she was ready to go, but by late game the tedious game mechanics and how awful Bruce & Mickey are had worn me down to the point I just wanted it to be over. I also didn't get any of those specific plot details they talked about for the main character, I dunno if I just missed it or what.
is this a joke?
Astro's Playroom is one of the best games I played this year. I'm not a Sony guy, I never even owned a PS1 or PS2, it is just an incredibly well designed and fun game.
Regarding Tony Hawk, I can't really speak to it, but the Giantbomb guys LOVE those games. Of course it was going to be there since it appears to actually be well made unlike pro skater 5.
The problem with a lot of remakes is that they are bad or unnecessary or both. If a remake is bad it won't make it onto the list, and any game even a brand new one can be unnecessary and so also won't make it onto a list.
Remakes actually have an even harder time getting to this point just because of the inherent bias against them. That THPS1+2 made it that far shows how good it is and how much they loved it.
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Astro is legit one of the best 3D platformers in years and maybe THE best outside of Nintendo. It also showed the potential of the PS5 Dualsense in fantastic ways that could easily have come off as
Dumb and gimmicky. It is without a doubt the thing that Every PS5 owner should play first.
I’d have been disappointed if it DIDNT make the cut.
but it's what they liked this year, not what you liked this year, or what the industry made this year.
It was also made this year. Just cause the original game was released 20 years ago doesn't invalidate the work that was put into the new version.
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It's the content from the original games, completely remade visually, plus almost double the amount of skaters and music, brand new create a park mode, create-a-skater which wasn't in those games including 100s of parts, a new trick system that adds in stuff from the later games, and more.
They got really into Minecraft this year. They played it a bunch as a group and some of them, like Jeff, got into it enough to play on their own or on other servers, too. Just because it didn't come out this year doesn't mean it wasn't an important game to them this year and thus deserving of a spot on their lists.