Chris Terrio voices Admiral Ackbar's son in [Rise of Skywalker] - open spoilers!

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    BlankZoe wrote: »
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    Rey not being part of an important family doesn't make it not the Skywalker Saga

    Kylo is a Skywalker

    Having the Saga end with the last Skywalker fallen to Darkness and a new era of Jedi not bound by legacies would be

    Pretty fuckin good

    I'm telling ya'll

    End IX with Rey finally deciding to call her version of the Jedi "the Skywalkers"

    It's a great way to secure their legacy in a way that isn't extraordinarily cheesy
    That is also extraordinarily cheesy but in a more enjoyable way

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    Yeah okay it is cheesy

    But I like it

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  • GustavGustav Registered User regular
    Yeah I was willing to bet money on Skywalkers ending up being a name of the new jedi order

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  • Der Waffle MousDer Waffle Mous Blame this on the misfortune of your birth. New Yark, New Yark.Registered User regular


    lemme tell you about bloodlines I'm descended from Skywalkers.

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  • -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    Furthermore, I don't like that everybody just gets to be a force ghost now!!

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    Not Kylo!

    NEVER KYLO

  • TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    Kylo walking up to Qui-Gon in force heaven “Hey can you teach me that force ghost shit?”

    “Nah kid I’m good”

  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Qui Gon was basically the best Jedi

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  • Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    Sleep wrote: »
    KetBra wrote: »
    Sleep wrote: »
    Wait, are people upset she is a palpatine? I thought that was a fun twist there. I really don't care for anyone's reason for not liking it, i'm just surprised that's a sticking point. It seemed perfectly straightforward as soon as it was said and the backfill around it seemed more than workable.

    People are upset because it's another case of a destined family of destiny being the only important ones, after TLJ was pretty explicit about repudiating that

    I mean the core stories are literally the Skywalker saga. They're entirely about lineage. Like most stories about knights. The idea that lineage isn't important in a series where we've been following the exact same family from beginning to end for like almost 50 years of real life, and like 90 to 100 years of in movie time seems kinda far fetched.

    If TLJ didn't exist, I'd agree

    But that entire movie is about refuting the idea that every story needs to be about people from powerful families, and following it up with "actually, no, you do need to be Someone" made a lot of folks, myself included, extremely disappointed

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  • SleepSleep Registered User regular
    KetBra wrote: »
    Sleep wrote: »
    KetBra wrote: »
    Sleep wrote: »
    Wait, are people upset she is a palpatine? I thought that was a fun twist there. I really don't care for anyone's reason for not liking it, i'm just surprised that's a sticking point. It seemed perfectly straightforward as soon as it was said and the backfill around it seemed more than workable.

    People are upset because it's another case of a destined family of destiny being the only important ones, after TLJ was pretty explicit about repudiating that

    I mean the core stories are literally the Skywalker saga. They're entirely about lineage. Like most stories about knights. The idea that lineage isn't important in a series where we've been following the exact same family from beginning to end for like almost 50 years of real life, and like 90 to 100 years of in movie time seems kinda far fetched.

    okay but what if we told a different story

    I mean that's what they're doing now in series like the mandalorian, but the big main trunk movies are classic fantasy knight stories with scifi fi set dressing.

    The end boss being the lich version of evil wizard we've been dealing with since the beginning seems pretty straightforward as a conclusion.

    Are all of you operating under the idea that they're looking to keep the main trunk movies of the setting going? Do you realize that there's probably not gonna be anymore episodes in the core star wars for like a while? Like this movie was more than anything saying goodbye to this main trunk story line. I highly doubt we see an episode 10 for at least a decade (if fandom has dropped off and they need to reinvigorate the IP)

    Basically if your complaint is "we could tell other stories", congrats you're getting your wish 9 was as of right now the last main episode detailing the Skywalker saga. I'd bet money that Everything else is mandalorians (streaming series) and rogue ones (anthology films).

    Like if we were about to start drilling into a 10,11,12 I could see using 7 8 9 as a means of transition to a new core narrative of the series. However 9 isn't a stepping stone into a new core narrative it's the closing of the narrative we've been watching since 1977.

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Madican wrote: »
    Qui Gon was basically the best Jedi
    Qui Gon sucks!

    He just left Shmi and yanked Anakin because HEY HE'S THE CHOSEN ONE

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  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    Madican wrote: »
    Qui Gon was basically the best Jedi

    He went to a planet where slavery was legal and decided "hey that's cool, I'll just take this one special boy though."

    The jedi were wack.

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  • SirEtchwartsSirEtchwarts KABOOM Splooooosh...Registered User regular
    Madican wrote: »
    Qui Gon was basically the best Jedi

    I used to agree

    But rewatching Episode I recently, he kinda sucks shit

    He's not big on the Jedi and their rules, but he's still enough of a cop that, until it might benefit him, he doesn't give two shits about Anakin or his mom being enslaved because they happen to live outside of his jurisdiction

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  • -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    Sleep wrote: »
    KetBra wrote: »
    Sleep wrote: »
    KetBra wrote: »
    Sleep wrote: »
    Wait, are people upset she is a palpatine? I thought that was a fun twist there. I really don't care for anyone's reason for not liking it, i'm just surprised that's a sticking point. It seemed perfectly straightforward as soon as it was said and the backfill around it seemed more than workable.

    People are upset because it's another case of a destined family of destiny being the only important ones, after TLJ was pretty explicit about repudiating that

    I mean the core stories are literally the Skywalker saga. They're entirely about lineage. Like most stories about knights. The idea that lineage isn't important in a series where we've been following the exact same family from beginning to end for like almost 50 years of real life, and like 90 to 100 years of in movie time seems kinda far fetched.

    okay but what if we told a different story

    I mean that's what they're doing now in series like the mandalorian, but the big main trunk movies are classic fantasy knight stories with scifi fi set dressing.

    The end boss being the lich version of evil wizard we've been dealing with since the beginning seems pretty straightforward as a conclusion.

    Are all of you operating under the idea that they're looking to keep the main trunk movies of the setting going? Do you realize that there's probably not gonna be anymore episodes in the core star wars for like a while? Like this movie was more than anything saying goodbye to this main trunk story line. I highly doubt we see an episode 10 for at least a decade (if fandom has dropped off and they need to reinvigorate the IP)

    Basically if your complaint is "we could tell other stories", congrats you're getting your wish 9 was as of right now the last main episode detailing the Skywalker saga. I'd bet money that Everything else is mandalorians (streaming series) and rogue ones (anthology films).

    Like if we were about to start drilling into a 10,11,12 I could see using 7 8 9 as a means of transition to a new core narrative of the series. However 9 isn't a stepping stone into a new core narrative it's the closing of the narrative we've been watching since 1977.

    The idea that episode 9 is a conclusion to a 9 part skywalker saga is something they made up last year for marketing purposes

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    Wow I can't believe I got Force ghosted

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  • JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    I cannot tell you how disappointed I am that we didn't get Force Luke annoying the shit out of Kylo Ren.

    I am

    So disappointed.

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Yeah I had never heard the term "The Skywalker Saga" until, like, the first RoS trailer

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  • JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    edited January 14
    Force Luke: Sup. Your helmets dumb.

    Ben: Shut up go away.

    Force Luke: You know, your grandfather had his face melted and needed his helmet to breath. What's your excuse? Don't want people to see you crying?

    Ben: Oh my god.

    Force Luke: Oh hey let me tell you about that time your mom and I kissed before we knew we were brother and sister haha it was totally fucked up, dude haha

    Ben: Oh my god.

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  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    edited January 14
    Yeah the prequel movies were mainly related to the original movies by way of recontextulizing the audiences ideas of the jedi and the old republic and were stories about how liberal democracies can fall to fascism instead of the originals stories about fighting that fascism despite great odds.

    Pretending they were always meant to be one overarching narrative is silly, the prequels came out like 20 years after the fact and often if not contridict them at least sour the original movies. Like when Vader betrays the emperor and is redeemed? No, not buying it after seeing it implied that he murdered a bunch of children with his own hands.

    The sequel trilogy was even being sold as a new narrative and a passing of the torch during the marketing for episode 7.

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  • TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    “Han didn’t even know what a parsec was”

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  • JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    Force Luke: Holy shit did you build this laser sword? It's all crackly and messed up what did you do?

    Ben: It symbolizes my raw, bristling, animalistic rage.

    Force Luke: You crossed the wiring on the emitter didn't you?

    Ben: No god it's my rage. My raaaage.

    Force Luke: haha you totally crossed the wiring on the emitter. You know I built my own lightsaber without anybody showing me how it's not that hard how did you mess it up this bad?

    Ben: jesus christ

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  • JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    I could write these all day how did we end up with nothing?

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  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    Also tros is a shitty wrap up to it's own trilogy let alone the entire saga!

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  • PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    I dunno if I was sold on the whole lineage theme. Like, who's Schmi related to

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  • DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    Juggernut wrote: »
    I could write these all day how did we end up with nothing?

    This should be a twitter account, "Shit My Force Ghost Uncle Says"

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  • JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    I legit might make a little comic or something about this. Just 3 panels of Force Luke dunking on his fuck boy nephew.

    Like we deserved.

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  • DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    Juggernut wrote: »
    I legit might make a little comic or something about this. Just 3 panels of Force Luke dunking on his fuck boy nephew.

    Like we deserved.

    This has deep meme potential Juggs, DO IT.

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  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    Making anakin Skywalker into actual space Jesus was stupid. Like, he shouldn't have even been that special among the jedi... That way it doesn't undermine luke's story as much, being a nobody from a moisture farm still instead of a son of the most biggest power level jedi in the galaxy.

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  • -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    In episode 4, luke inheritied his skills from his father, a great jedi and the best pilot in the galaxy.

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  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    -Tal wrote: »
    In episode 4, luke inheritied his skills from his father, a great jedi and the best pilot in the galaxy.

    That's right. He tried spinning.

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  • Der Waffle MousDer Waffle Mous Blame this on the misfortune of your birth. New Yark, New Yark.Registered User regular
    Uriel wrote: »
    -Tal wrote: »
    In episode 4, luke inheritied his skills from his father, a great jedi and the best pilot in the galaxy.

    That's right. He tried spinning.

    its a good trick!

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  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    Still the reveal as it was written in the ot worked because Darth Vader was evil not just because he was particularly powerful and him being powerful in the pt seemed like silly nonsense, but then he didn't ever really seem to actually be as powerful as implied in ep 1...

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  • Doctor DetroitDoctor Detroit Registered User regular
    There’s a big gap between:

    “I was once a Jedi Knight, the same as your father.”

    and

    “You were the Chosen One!”

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  • JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    edited January 14
    The whole Chosen One thing was almost worth it for Ewan McGregor's delivery in that last scene.

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  • JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    Fuck just hurry up and gimme that Ewan McGregor Obi-wan show

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Uriel wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    Qui Gon was basically the best Jedi

    He went to a planet where slavery was legal and decided "hey that's cool, I'll just take this one special boy though."

    The jedi were wack.

    Yeah, that's why I said he was the best Jedi.

    That bar is not very high off the ground

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  • WhittledownWhittledown Registered User regular
    Can it be an Ewan McGregor Obi-wan show where he helps aliens find a dream home they can afford?

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    I really hope that the Obi-Wan show has a lot of Obi-Wan reckoning with just how bad he, and the Jedi as an institution, fucked up.

    Like I don't need full on surly drunken asshole Logan style Obi-Wan but

    Somewhere in that vein, please

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  • KetarKetar Ready to feel better about your own miserable lives?Registered User regular
    Sleep wrote: »
    KetBra wrote: »
    Sleep wrote: »
    KetBra wrote: »
    Sleep wrote: »
    Wait, are people upset she is a palpatine? I thought that was a fun twist there. I really don't care for anyone's reason for not liking it, i'm just surprised that's a sticking point. It seemed perfectly straightforward as soon as it was said and the backfill around it seemed more than workable.

    People are upset because it's another case of a destined family of destiny being the only important ones, after TLJ was pretty explicit about repudiating that

    I mean the core stories are literally the Skywalker saga. They're entirely about lineage. Like most stories about knights. The idea that lineage isn't important in a series where we've been following the exact same family from beginning to end for like almost 50 years of real life, and like 90 to 100 years of in movie time seems kinda far fetched.

    okay but what if we told a different story

    I mean that's what they're doing now in series like the mandalorian, but the big main trunk movies are classic fantasy knight stories with scifi fi set dressing.

    The end boss being the lich version of evil wizard we've been dealing with since the beginning seems pretty straightforward as a conclusion.

    Are all of you operating under the idea that they're looking to keep the main trunk movies of the setting going? Do you realize that there's probably not gonna be anymore episodes in the core star wars for like a while? Like this movie was more than anything saying goodbye to this main trunk story line. I highly doubt we see an episode 10 for at least a decade (if fandom has dropped off and they need to reinvigorate the IP)

    Basically if your complaint is "we could tell other stories", congrats you're getting your wish 9 was as of right now the last main episode detailing the Skywalker saga. I'd bet money that Everything else is mandalorians (streaming series) and rogue ones (anthology films).

    Like if we were about to start drilling into a 10,11,12 I could see using 7 8 9 as a means of transition to a new core narrative of the series. However 9 isn't a stepping stone into a new core narrative it's the closing of the narrative we've been watching since 1977.

    I often find that condescension does wonders for bringing people around to one's way of thinking, kudos.

  • RingoRingo HE KEEPS REPEATING THE LINE I'M GONNA CRY BLEASE LET HIM LIVE YOU MADE ME WATCH SO MUCH KISSING IN THIS FILM LET INIGO LIVERegistered User regular
    I mean if you agree with the premise that there are currently more bad Star Wars movies than good ones, then Episode 9 is clearly the most respectful capstone to the overall product of the Skywalker Saga

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