It seems the goal here is pretty clear, looking at our correspondence. His office is short on funds and cant run their own tracks, so they are duplicating ours hoping to folk their list into ours, have us pay for all of the participants and concessions, and have their name on the ticket to get credit with us regulated to a "sponsored by the "Enc's office."
Which... is what will happen. Because we need our participants to do the thing we are training them to do. It's a shitty, shitty thing to do. But it seems run of the mill now. Fuck it all.
Sounds like someone needs a visit from the Phantom Shitter.
Now, I'm going to say right up front that it isn't me.
But, I may know a guy who, for the cost of a plane ticket and a moderately disturbing amount of taco bell may be able to help you out.
But it definitely isn't me.
How dare you just volunteer chris for this without asking him?
let's be honest, 75% of the forum was volunteered in that post
The problem is that for this, you don't want turds.
That office and ours used to be in the same unit (hence why we share the same office suite), six months ago when our division boss was canned for doing the bad things (all of them), their office got moved to a new unit. Our new boss doesn't like the conference at all and wont go to bat for us, their new boss likely suggested the idea to make us pay for it.
Wow Its just new levels of shittery with every post. I think you're in the running right behind the steel belt factories that the one poster used to work at, and only because that place could kill someone. Your management structure is certainly far more fucked. Best of luck dude, youll need it.
EncA Fool with CompassionPronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered Userregular
Nobody has died here yet! Plus one for educational employment.
On the other side of things, we had an university executive just write an email with both "academical reasons" and "Educationally yours, X" in it, which makes me feel like I just died inside.
That office and ours used to be in the same unit (hence why we share the same office suite), six months ago when our division boss was canned for doing the bad things (all of them), their office got moved to a new unit. Our new boss doesn't like the conference at all and wont go to bat for us, their new boss likely suggested the idea to make us pay for it.
Wow Its just new levels of shittery with every post. I think you're in the running right behind the steel belt factories that the one poster used to work at, and only because that place could kill someone. Your management structure is certainly far more fucked. Best of luck dude, youll need it.
Remember, this is the same place where they gutted management because of corruption, and is currently dealing with a scandal involving "light treason".
It seems the goal here is pretty clear, looking at our correspondence. His office is short on funds and cant run their own tracks, so they are duplicating ours hoping to folk their list into ours, have us pay for all of the participants and concessions, and have their name on the ticket to get credit with us regulated to a "sponsored by the "Enc's office."
Which... is what will happen. Because we need our participants to do the thing we are training them to do. It's a shitty, shitty thing to do. But it seems run of the mill now. Fuck it all.
Sounds like someone needs a visit from the Phantom Shitter.
Now, I'm going to say right up front that it isn't me.
But, I may know a guy who, for the cost of a plane ticket and a moderately disturbing amount of taco bell may be able to help you out.
But it definitely isn't me.
How dare you just volunteer chris for this without asking him?
let's be honest, 75% of the forum was volunteered in that post
The problem is that for this, you don't want turds.
You want something that coats.
three shots of rum and i can absolutely blanket that office
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EncA Fool with CompassionPronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered Userregular
That office and ours used to be in the same unit (hence why we share the same office suite), six months ago when our division boss was canned for doing the bad things (all of them), their office got moved to a new unit. Our new boss doesn't like the conference at all and wont go to bat for us, their new boss likely suggested the idea to make us pay for it.
Wow Its just new levels of shittery with every post. I think you're in the running right behind the steel belt factories that the one poster used to work at, and only because that place could kill someone. Your management structure is certainly far more fucked. Best of luck dude, youll need it.
Remember, this is the same place where they gutted management because of corruption, and is currently dealing with a scandal involving "light treason".
The term "death spiral" comes to mind.
I'd just put them all on blast for what they're trying to pull, to the entire university. Fuck it.
EncA Fool with CompassionPronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered Userregular
Probably a while, frankly. I'm at a level of position that is difficult to find another job that translates equivalently and pays as well as what I have here.
It seems the goal here is pretty clear, looking at our correspondence. His office is short on funds and cant run their own tracks, so they are duplicating ours hoping to folk their list into ours, have us pay for all of the participants and concessions, and have their name on the ticket to get credit with us regulated to a "sponsored by the "Enc's office."
Which... is what will happen. Because we need our participants to do the thing we are training them to do. It's a shitty, shitty thing to do. But it seems run of the mill now. Fuck it all.
Sounds like someone needs a visit from the Phantom Shitter.
Now, I'm going to say right up front that it isn't me.
But, I may know a guy who, for the cost of a plane ticket and a moderately disturbing amount of taco bell may be able to help you out.
But it definitely isn't me.
How dare you just volunteer chris for this without asking him?
let's be honest, 75% of the forum was volunteered in that post
The problem is that for this, you don't want turds.
You want something that coats.
three shots of rum and i can absolutely blanket that office
Probably a while, frankly. I'm at a level of position that is difficult to find another job that translates equivalently and pays as well as what I have here.
I have to imagine private sector management pays well for the skill sets you have. Isn't that the common perception? Make bank in the private sector vs govt work.
It seems the goal here is pretty clear, looking at our correspondence. His office is short on funds and cant run their own tracks, so they are duplicating ours hoping to folk their list into ours, have us pay for all of the participants and concessions, and have their name on the ticket to get credit with us regulated to a "sponsored by the "Enc's office."
Which... is what will happen. Because we need our participants to do the thing we are training them to do. It's a shitty, shitty thing to do. But it seems run of the mill now. Fuck it all.
Sounds like someone needs a visit from the Phantom Shitter.
Now, I'm going to say right up front that it isn't me.
But, I may know a guy who, for the cost of a plane ticket and a moderately disturbing amount of taco bell may be able to help you out.
But it definitely isn't me.
How dare you just volunteer chris for this without asking him?
let's be honest, 75% of the forum was volunteered in that post
The problem is that for this, you don't want turds.
You want something that coats.
I can achieve a thick, greasy consistency with a little effort if I am needed for the cause
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I once had a guy apply for a sponsorship for his Youtube channel that hadn't had a video uploaded to it in like 3 years. The channel name was "Dr. Teabag".
We, uh... Did not sponsor him.
Ah, it stinks, it sucks, it's anthropologically unjust
To provide a bit more details, we put on a conference to train faculty and staff. Inside said conference are tracks on specific training topics, each of which pay participants to attend and provide the money to pay presenters and training materials (and also food for those who are attending for the 4 day conference). In exchange, those attending have to implement the training into their classrooms with a concrete deliverable (a specific certification we need for the purposes of our office for accreditation).
This guy's office made a track to copy our track for the purposes of having us pay for the presenters, participants, training materials, and concessions while they look like they are the ones running it and get to claim it as their annual reporting. Only thing is, they dont have the deliverable which means all this money will change hands without anything actually being implemented across campus. Because they DONT have the deliverable, all of the faculty who would normally attend our sessions are registering for theirs because its less work for the money they get paid for four half days of hanging around campus between semesters.
The only way we can meet our accreditation goals are to merge the tracks, take up the payments and costs, and (in return for doing so) bait and switch the faculty into needing the deliverable. Which the faculty won't like, and we don't like. But ~we~ will look like the badguys while ~they~ look like the people looking out for the faculty union. Its a garbage play. Done by a garbage person.
If I'm understanding this correctly, the deliverable is the entire reason for attending the training, and the faculty should know that, right? Like it sounds to me like the other track is (or should be) obviously shady (because no deliverable), and anyone who signed up for it should have known better.
When someone's name comes up in Outlook as "HentaiTentacles", do you address them as "Mr. Tentacles" or just use their full name?
Do a social experiment. Address them as "Mr. Testicles" and see if they correct you and how they correct you.
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My boss brought me a broken merchandise display shelf. Some duct tape, a hammer, and forceful application of my boot later, I sent back a functional shelf.
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I once had a guy apply for a sponsorship for his Youtube channel that hadn't had a video uploaded to it in like 3 years. The channel name was "Dr. Teabag".
We, uh... Did not sponsor him.
Doctor Terence Bagg is very sad now
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EncA Fool with CompassionPronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered Userregular
To provide a bit more details, we put on a conference to train faculty and staff. Inside said conference are tracks on specific training topics, each of which pay participants to attend and provide the money to pay presenters and training materials (and also food for those who are attending for the 4 day conference). In exchange, those attending have to implement the training into their classrooms with a concrete deliverable (a specific certification we need for the purposes of our office for accreditation).
This guy's office made a track to copy our track for the purposes of having us pay for the presenters, participants, training materials, and concessions while they look like they are the ones running it and get to claim it as their annual reporting. Only thing is, they dont have the deliverable which means all this money will change hands without anything actually being implemented across campus. Because they DONT have the deliverable, all of the faculty who would normally attend our sessions are registering for theirs because its less work for the money they get paid for four half days of hanging around campus between semesters.
The only way we can meet our accreditation goals are to merge the tracks, take up the payments and costs, and (in return for doing so) bait and switch the faculty into needing the deliverable. Which the faculty won't like, and we don't like. But ~we~ will look like the badguys while ~they~ look like the people looking out for the faculty union. Its a garbage play. Done by a garbage person.
If I'm understanding this correctly, the deliverable is the entire reason for attending the training, and the faculty should know that, right? Like it sounds to me like the other track is (or should be) obviously shady (because no deliverable), and anyone who signed up for it should have known better.
Well, for our track. Plenty of tracks have no deliverable (and also have no meaningful benefit to completing usually). We're a special case because we actually report our track to accreditation as part of our initiative.
To provide a bit more details, we put on a conference to train faculty and staff. Inside said conference are tracks on specific training topics, each of which pay participants to attend and provide the money to pay presenters and training materials (and also food for those who are attending for the 4 day conference). In exchange, those attending have to implement the training into their classrooms with a concrete deliverable (a specific certification we need for the purposes of our office for accreditation).
This guy's office made a track to copy our track for the purposes of having us pay for the presenters, participants, training materials, and concessions while they look like they are the ones running it and get to claim it as their annual reporting. Only thing is, they dont have the deliverable which means all this money will change hands without anything actually being implemented across campus. Because they DONT have the deliverable, all of the faculty who would normally attend our sessions are registering for theirs because its less work for the money they get paid for four half days of hanging around campus between semesters.
The only way we can meet our accreditation goals are to merge the tracks, take up the payments and costs, and (in return for doing so) bait and switch the faculty into needing the deliverable. Which the faculty won't like, and we don't like. But ~we~ will look like the badguys while ~they~ look like the people looking out for the faculty union. Its a garbage play. Done by a garbage person.
If I'm understanding this correctly, the deliverable is the entire reason for attending the training, and the faculty should know that, right? Like it sounds to me like the other track is (or should be) obviously shady (because no deliverable), and anyone who signed up for it should have known better.
Well, for our track. Plenty of tracks have no deliverable (and also have no meaningful benefit to completing usually). We're a special case because we actually report our track to accreditation as part of our initiative.
This may seem naive, but I just honestly don't know: Is there any way for you to spin it? In a way of "Look, I know you signed up for Garbage Joe's track, but it wasn't even complete so you would have missed out on (benefit)/it would have been a waste of time. Thankfully, we're here to make sure you have what you need to succeed, and unlike with Garbage Joe's track, you'll have something to show for it!"
Alternately, if people are pissed that they'll end up needing to do the deliverable... what would be the consequences of telling them about the bait and switch?
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The problem is that for this, you don't want turds.
You want something that coats.
Wow Its just new levels of shittery with every post. I think you're in the running right behind the steel belt factories that the one poster used to work at, and only because that place could kill someone. Your management structure is certainly far more fucked. Best of luck dude, youll need it.
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On the other side of things, we had an university executive just write an email with both "academical reasons" and "Educationally yours, X" in it, which makes me feel like I just died inside.
Remember, this is the same place where they gutted management because of corruption, and is currently dealing with a scandal involving "light treason".
The term "death spiral" comes to mind.
three shots of rum and i can absolutely blanket that office
I'd just put them all on blast for what they're trying to pull, to the entire university. Fuck it.
but for how long
30 ft.?
But would you blanket...
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Man the number of people who send their financial institution their email address as stuff like "Whalefer2323" or "Bigdickjohnson" astounds me.
Also refer to him and Mr.Hentai obviously.
They didn't go to 8 years of japanimation school to be called "Mr," MI.
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That seems cruel.
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"Please, Mr. Tentacles is my father."
Get yeself to a pub
This took me a while.
Then I laughed way too hard and drew attention to myself. And laughed more.
He literally just set his name up as "HentaiTentacles" in Gmail and I love the idea that he might not even realize.
I have to imagine private sector management pays well for the skill sets you have. Isn't that the common perception? Make bank in the private sector vs govt work.
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I can achieve a thick, greasy consistency with a little effort if I am needed for the cause
I once had a guy apply for a sponsorship for his Youtube channel that hadn't had a video uploaded to it in like 3 years. The channel name was "Dr. Teabag".
We, uh... Did not sponsor him.
If I'm understanding this correctly, the deliverable is the entire reason for attending the training, and the faculty should know that, right? Like it sounds to me like the other track is (or should be) obviously shady (because no deliverable), and anyone who signed up for it should have known better.
Do a social experiment. Address them as "Mr. Testicles" and see if they correct you and how they correct you.
Doctor Terence Bagg is very sad now
Well, for our track. Plenty of tracks have no deliverable (and also have no meaningful benefit to completing usually). We're a special case because we actually report our track to accreditation as part of our initiative.
This may seem naive, but I just honestly don't know: Is there any way for you to spin it? In a way of "Look, I know you signed up for Garbage Joe's track, but it wasn't even complete so you would have missed out on (benefit)/it would have been a waste of time. Thankfully, we're here to make sure you have what you need to succeed, and unlike with Garbage Joe's track, you'll have something to show for it!"
Alternately, if people are pissed that they'll end up needing to do the deliverable... what would be the consequences of telling them about the bait and switch?