cameras everywhere is deffo not the problem with the epstein fiasco
Not 'the problem'. I don't think there's anything new or unusual about Epstein. We just like to keep our heads in the sand because acknowledging the amount of suffering that is life is probably not good for mental health.
Imagine taking out a huge loan to go to an extremely isolated place in the middle of nowhere with little hope of returning.
Imagine living out a mediocre ass life and never doing anything with it.
Being on Mars won't make it less mediocre.
Edit: Like the early colonization of America mostly involved a bunch of people dying without exactly having gone on a grand adventure or even just not dying of dysentery.
Imagine taking out a huge loan to go to an extremely isolated place in the middle of nowhere with little hope of returning.
Imagine living out a mediocre ass life and never doing anything with it.
what an insane thing to say
how is signing up for exploitation IN SPACE better than trying to live a decent and fulfilling life in the place with like, loved ones and culture and oxygen
Imagine taking out a huge loan to go to an extremely isolated place in the middle of nowhere with little hope of returning.
Imagine living out a mediocre ass life and never doing anything with it.
what an insane thing to say
how is signing up for exploitation IN SPACE better than trying to live a decent and fulfilling life in the place with like, loved ones and culture and oxygen
cameras everywhere is deffo not the problem with the epstein fiasco
Not 'the problem'. I don't think there's anything new or unusual about Epstein. We just like to keep our heads in the sand because acknowledging the amount of suffering that is life is probably not good for mental health.
I have a hypothesis that older generations have a severe self-imposed mental block about sex crimes due to centuries of Protestant sexual attitudes, resulting in a complete inability to appropriately deal with reality.
Imagine taking out a huge loan to go to an extremely isolated place in the middle of nowhere with little hope of returning.
Imagine living out a mediocre ass life and never doing anything with it.
what an insane thing to say
how is signing up for exploitation IN SPACE better than trying to live a decent and fulfilling life in the place with like, loved ones and culture and oxygen
well, oxygen anyway
Thousands of hot, local singles are waiting to play at bubbulon.com.
I put together an opening monologue for my Chicago Shadowrun campaign. I need to know whether I am straining the borders of taste here or whether this is serviceable:
Chicago, 2080.
Anyone who knows Chicago knows that it is two cities.
The neighborhoods where you draw the lines have shifted over the decades, and the industries that drive the divide have come and gone, but this division persists as stark as ever.
It's a divide that has been with the city since the first industrial revolution, when the Union Stockyards were built and Packingtown was established to the South so that all the impoverished immigrant laborers who spent their days slaughtering and butchering and packing the meat could have a place to sleep at night where the factory owners didn't have to see them.
From that day forward, Chicago has been slowly, perpetually feasting upon itself; cannibalizing its own lower half.
Two centuries ago it was the Germans and Irish, and then the Bohemians and Lithuanians and Slovaks. Less than a century ago it was blacks and Latinos, and today it is the metahumans; the so-called orks and trolls and dwarves. But fundamentally it has always been the same. Each group displaces the last, but each group takes their turn in the same place under the same wheel that has always ground down the people of Chicago.
There is a polarity to the city; a pull on both ends, a force tugging on its top and bottom that preserves a distinct separation between those who benefit and those who suffer. Perhaps it's because Chicago has always been at the center; the crossroads, the beating heart. Perhaps it can't help but reflect in itself the essential structure of the country it connects along with its essential corruption. But even when the United Canadian and American States became just a shadow of what the US once was, Chicago never changed its nature.
When the Containment Zone walls went up they weren't changing Chicago; they were just adding concrete to a barrier that had always been there. When the bug infestation was quelled and the walls started to come down again, then, it should be no surprise that the divide they represented remained as stark as ever, even as the Megacorporations pushed back into the territory to return once again to extracting any bit of value the people of Chicago had left.
The CZ remains an immensely dangerous place for the people who live there, and the outside world fears the people of the CZ. Travel into and out of the CZ is still only through heavily regulated checkpoints. Any nominal government the city of Chicago had left has dissolved, and all the infrastructure and governance of the city is now up-for-grabs to whatever corporate entities can hold them. Insect spirits are still a common sight and the city has gained a reputation, at least among the people who live outside the CZ, for harboring violent gangs and extremist groups.
All travel into, out of, and throughout the CZ is now strictly controlled by the militaristic Chicago Transit Authority, now a subsidiary of Lone Star Security. The CTA has begun revitalizing the L system and running various bus routes, but their grasp over the broader part of the city is still tenuous. While some L stations operate as CTA security stations, many remain in disrepair, are under the control of various government-declared gang factions, or house dangerous uncleared insect nests. Random stops of vehicle traffic in CTA controlled wards are common, but there are still many places where their reach is limited.
In the years since the establishment of the CZ the bulk of the economic activity of Chicago has been shifted north to Evanston, which now hosts sky-scrapers to rival those that the Loop once had. The CTA operates the purple line on a regular schedule in order to ship workers from the CZ up to Evanston where they can work minimum wage manufacturing and service jobs, and then ships them back at night. As a result, the population of the CZ has begun to crowd around functioning transit stations and left large swathes of the CZ largely abandoned.
O'Hare airport remains an international transit hub, and has been fortified as a center of corporate military power, housing a vast arsenal with controlling stakes held by every one of the Big Ten Megacorps. It has become one of the largest military bases in the world and the central artery through which the weapons trade flows, though the balance of power between each of the Megacorps and government entities operating there leads to an atmosphere of constant tension.
Tonight the five of you have each found yourself, for various reasons, waiting at a bus stop together.
y'all seem to be forgetting something important in this political analysis though, which is that young queen elizabeth was a hottie
A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
Imagine taking out a huge loan to go to an extremely isolated place in the middle of nowhere with little hope of returning.
Ok real talk: how the fuck they gonna collect if you stop paying your space payday loan while you're on Mars for the rest of your life?
Well obviously you don't get to go unless you already have an employment agreement with musk's company. So they just take it right out of your pay.
Not that it matters much because you can only buy things from the musk store.
I'm sure your monthly surplus after you buy food/water/air and pay rent on your tiny closet if a room will never be enough to pay your way out early and start building capital.
The great thing about having indentured workers on Mars is they can't just skip town and start over!
life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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I'm significantly less into space colonization after recent years convinced me that The Expanse's take on humanity's ability to get along is unrealistically optimistic.
The whole Musk angle is just an extra layer of ehhhhhh.
Imagine taking out a huge loan to go to an extremely isolated place in the middle of nowhere with little hope of returning.
Ok real talk: how the fuck they gonna collect if you stop paying your space payday loan while you're on Mars for the rest of your life?
Well obviously you don't get to go unless you already have an employment agreement with musk's company. So they just take it right out of your pay.
Not that it matters much because you can only buy things from the musk store.
I'm sure your monthly surplus after you buy food/water/air and pay rent on your tiny closet if a room will never be enough to pay your way out early and start building capital.
The great thing about having indentured workers on Mars is they can't just skip town and start over!
you kind of never really could just skip town and start over
Imagine taking out a huge loan to go to an extremely isolated place in the middle of nowhere with little hope of returning.
Imagine living out a mediocre ass life and never doing anything with it.
what an insane thing to say
how is signing up for exploitation IN SPACE better than trying to live a decent and fulfilling life in the place with like, loved ones and culture and oxygen
I'm just saying I get it. Toiling anywhere may be miserable but the allure of seeing or doing something that only a handful of people will do in your lifetime is something.
Like why climb Everest or cross the ocean on a raft or go base jumping? Sure we can all point out how dumb those things are but some people just don't want what most of us do.
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Imagine taking out a huge loan to go to an extremely isolated place in the middle of nowhere with little hope of returning.
Ok real talk: how the fuck they gonna collect if you stop paying your space payday loan while you're on Mars for the rest of your life?
Well obviously you don't get to go unless you already have an employment agreement with musk's company. So they just take it right out of your pay.
Not that it matters much because you can only buy things from the musk store.
I'm sure your monthly surplus after you buy food/water/air and pay rent on your tiny closet if a room will never be enough to pay your way out early and start building capital.
The great thing about having indentured workers on Mars is they can't just skip town and start over!
you kind of never really could just skip town and start over
Before the information age people did that shit all the time.
life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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Which, written out like that, makes me really sad.
The stars don't feel out of reach. I just don't believe in reaching for them anymore.
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Given that everything will probably tie back to needing to depend on the company things would probably get really bad for you vey quickly if all access to food and water is revoked.
Who is going to charge them with a crime when people start dying? We don't have a legal framework to deal with permanent settlements on other planets.
But yeah for a Mars colony to not be a humanitarian disaster you'd basically need to have food/water/shelter as basic rights.
life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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If you take out a loan to go to Mars, instead of paying it back you can just be on Mars. What are they going to do about it?
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Imagine living out a mediocre ass life and never doing anything with it.
Come Overwatch with meeeee
Not 'the problem'. I don't think there's anything new or unusual about Epstein. We just like to keep our heads in the sand because acknowledging the amount of suffering that is life is probably not good for mental health.
Oh, was he tied to Epstein?
Well, there was just the large amount of outright slavery.
I can't wait for the indentured servant rebellion on Mars
Being on Mars won't make it less mediocre.
Edit: Like the early colonization of America mostly involved a bunch of people dying without exactly having gone on a grand adventure or even just not dying of dysentery.
how is signing up for exploitation IN SPACE better than trying to live a decent and fulfilling life in the place with like, loved ones and culture and oxygen
it says IN SPACE right there
tho my autocorrect kept insisting on SLAVE.
I have a hypothesis that older generations have a severe self-imposed mental block about sex crimes due to centuries of Protestant sexual attitudes, resulting in a complete inability to appropriately deal with reality.
You saw this in the Joe Paterno case, as well
well, oxygen anyway
Ok real talk: how the fuck they gonna collect if you stop paying your space payday loan while you're on Mars for the rest of your life?
@sniperguy oh it’s great
It’s where I learned my primary fetish is two friends who are forced to fight and one of them says “then let this be the greatest battle of our lives”
Motherfuckers just tethered to the ship on permanent spacewalk until the ACH goes through.
I, too, want another Red Faction sequel!
Can't remember the name of the novel, but there was this one I read a bunch of years ago about the colonization of the moon.
Behind on payments? Your lung implants that everyone has because scifi reasons reduce oxygen uptake to the absolute minimum.
men only want one thing and it's fucking disgusting
Washing Elon's feet, fanning him with palm fronds, feeding him grapes, being his human furniture...
tbf
Which Amazon tells me has a patch.
Anyone who knows Chicago knows that it is two cities.
The neighborhoods where you draw the lines have shifted over the decades, and the industries that drive the divide have come and gone, but this division persists as stark as ever.
It's a divide that has been with the city since the first industrial revolution, when the Union Stockyards were built and Packingtown was established to the South so that all the impoverished immigrant laborers who spent their days slaughtering and butchering and packing the meat could have a place to sleep at night where the factory owners didn't have to see them.
From that day forward, Chicago has been slowly, perpetually feasting upon itself; cannibalizing its own lower half.
Two centuries ago it was the Germans and Irish, and then the Bohemians and Lithuanians and Slovaks. Less than a century ago it was blacks and Latinos, and today it is the metahumans; the so-called orks and trolls and dwarves. But fundamentally it has always been the same. Each group displaces the last, but each group takes their turn in the same place under the same wheel that has always ground down the people of Chicago.
There is a polarity to the city; a pull on both ends, a force tugging on its top and bottom that preserves a distinct separation between those who benefit and those who suffer. Perhaps it's because Chicago has always been at the center; the crossroads, the beating heart. Perhaps it can't help but reflect in itself the essential structure of the country it connects along with its essential corruption. But even when the United Canadian and American States became just a shadow of what the US once was, Chicago never changed its nature.
When the Containment Zone walls went up they weren't changing Chicago; they were just adding concrete to a barrier that had always been there. When the bug infestation was quelled and the walls started to come down again, then, it should be no surprise that the divide they represented remained as stark as ever, even as the Megacorporations pushed back into the territory to return once again to extracting any bit of value the people of Chicago had left.
The CZ remains an immensely dangerous place for the people who live there, and the outside world fears the people of the CZ. Travel into and out of the CZ is still only through heavily regulated checkpoints. Any nominal government the city of Chicago had left has dissolved, and all the infrastructure and governance of the city is now up-for-grabs to whatever corporate entities can hold them. Insect spirits are still a common sight and the city has gained a reputation, at least among the people who live outside the CZ, for harboring violent gangs and extremist groups.
All travel into, out of, and throughout the CZ is now strictly controlled by the militaristic Chicago Transit Authority, now a subsidiary of Lone Star Security. The CTA has begun revitalizing the L system and running various bus routes, but their grasp over the broader part of the city is still tenuous. While some L stations operate as CTA security stations, many remain in disrepair, are under the control of various government-declared gang factions, or house dangerous uncleared insect nests. Random stops of vehicle traffic in CTA controlled wards are common, but there are still many places where their reach is limited.
In the years since the establishment of the CZ the bulk of the economic activity of Chicago has been shifted north to Evanston, which now hosts sky-scrapers to rival those that the Loop once had. The CTA operates the purple line on a regular schedule in order to ship workers from the CZ up to Evanston where they can work minimum wage manufacturing and service jobs, and then ships them back at night. As a result, the population of the CZ has begun to crowd around functioning transit stations and left large swathes of the CZ largely abandoned.
O'Hare airport remains an international transit hub, and has been fortified as a center of corporate military power, housing a vast arsenal with controlling stakes held by every one of the Big Ten Megacorps. It has become one of the largest military bases in the world and the central artery through which the weapons trade flows, though the balance of power between each of the Megacorps and government entities operating there leads to an atmosphere of constant tension.
Tonight the five of you have each found yourself, for various reasons, waiting at a bus stop together.
Well obviously you don't get to go unless you already have an employment agreement with musk's company. So they just take it right out of your pay.
Not that it matters much because you can only buy things from the musk store.
I'm sure your monthly surplus after you buy food/water/air and pay rent on your tiny closet if a room will never be enough to pay your way out early and start building capital.
The great thing about having indentured workers on Mars is they can't just skip town and start over!
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
Political correctness gone mad!
The whole Musk angle is just an extra layer of ehhhhhh.
you kind of never really could just skip town and start over
I'm just saying I get it. Toiling anywhere may be miserable but the allure of seeing or doing something that only a handful of people will do in your lifetime is something.
Like why climb Everest or cross the ocean on a raft or go base jumping? Sure we can all point out how dumb those things are but some people just don't want what most of us do.
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...what?
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Before the information age people did that shit all the time.
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
The stars don't feel out of reach. I just don't believe in reaching for them anymore.
Who is going to charge them with a crime when people start dying? We don't have a legal framework to deal with permanent settlements on other planets.
God, Musk is such a stupid twat.
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies