Thats crazy. Its the NBA finals. Teams should play as hard as they can and give themselves the best chance to win. What do they need to rest for? Are they saving themselves for summer (winter) league?
Thats crazy. Its the NBA finals. Teams should play as hard as they can and give themselves the best chance to win. What do they need to rest for? Are they saving themselves for summer (winter) league?
The one thing I would guess is that they assume Bam comes back in the next game no matter what, and that Dragic may try to come back quickly as well. If they're rested in this game, they can go all out in Game 3 against Miami's last stand and essentially end the series.
Thats crazy. Its the NBA finals. Teams should play as hard as they can and give themselves the best chance to win. What do they need to rest for? Are they saving themselves for summer (winter) league?
The one thing I would guess is that they assume Bam comes back in the next game no matter what, and that Dragic may try to come back quickly as well. If they're rested in this game, they can go all out in Game 3 against Miami's last stand and essentially end the series.
Can't pro athletes go all out every game, when it comes to the finals? I understand the strategy, but its not like any unused effort can just be tacked onto the next game.
I dunno, maybe I don't understand the conditioning and maximum effort levels of pro athletes, but some teams seem to be able to do ot every game in a playoffs.
Thats crazy. Its the NBA finals. Teams should play as hard as they can and give themselves the best chance to win. What do they need to rest for? Are they saving themselves for summer (winter) league?
The one thing I would guess is that they assume Bam comes back in the next game no matter what, and that Dragic may try to come back quickly as well. If they're rested in this game, they can go all out in Game 3 against Miami's last stand and essentially end the series.
Can't pro athletes go all out every game, when it comes to the finals? I understand the strategy, but its not like any unused effort can just be tacked onto the next game.
I dunno, maybe I don't understand the conditioning and maximum effort levels of pro athletes, but some teams seem to be able to do ot every game in a playoffs.
I think Lebron has to be coming up on most minutes ever played
17 seasons, 15 playoffs, 10 finals, olympics, been mostly healthy and averaged like 40 minutes per his first 10 seasons...
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Thats crazy. Its the NBA finals. Teams should play as hard as they can and give themselves the best chance to win. What do they need to rest for? Are they saving themselves for summer (winter) league?
They have to win 4 games so if they can easily win tonight and take their foot off the pedal so they have a little more gas in case the Heat get healthier for the next game... they will.
I hear yall, but there is too much variation in the NBA to ever assume "easy win" much less in the NBA finals of all places. If its an easy win, them blow them out in 3 quarters and rest, but ensure the win!
Thats crazy. Its the NBA finals. Teams should play as hard as they can and give themselves the best chance to win. What do they need to rest for? Are they saving themselves for summer (winter) league?
The one thing I would guess is that they assume Bam comes back in the next game no matter what, and that Dragic may try to come back quickly as well. If they're rested in this game, they can go all out in Game 3 against Miami's last stand and essentially end the series.
Can't pro athletes go all out every game, when it comes to the finals? I understand the strategy, but its not like any unused effort can just be tacked onto the next game.
I dunno, maybe I don't understand the conditioning and maximum effort levels of pro athletes, but some teams seem to be able to do ot every game in a playoffs.
I think it does depend on a team-by-team basis. Like, the Heat have gotten this far because their conditioning is the best in the NBA and they're giving maximum effort the entire time, which causes opponents to tire out by the 4th quarter. On the flip side, the Lakers have so much talent that they can choose when they want to go maximum effort to tilt the game in their favor.
Also the playoffs already require more effort in general just because the stakes are so high, so if a team can find actual in-game time to get rest, that can really help them in the long run.
This Lakers acting like they can't just dominate in the paint this whole time, dribbling out the shot clock, making stupid turnovers sure is good drama.
That said, this somehow felt like a game the Lakers lost more than the Heat won. They never seemed fully invested in the proceedings, they've completely fallen in love with shooting from 3, and the defense has been noticeably absent. The Lakers have won in these playoffs in part because they've been able to make a single adjustment, and just like every other series so far, Vogel usually waits until a loss. It does make Game 4 more interesting to see what exactly that adjustment will be.
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Basically if Butler can keep putting up 40 point triple doubles and the Lakers can keep lackadaisically shooting there’s then the Heat just might pull this off.
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That said, this somehow felt like a game the Lakers lost more than the Heat won. They never seemed fully invested in the proceedings, they've completely fallen in love with shooting from 3, and the defense has been noticeably absent. The Lakers have won in these playoffs in part because they've been able to make a single adjustment, and just like every other series so far, Vogel usually waits until a loss. It does make Game 4 more interesting to see what exactly that adjustment will be.
The Lakers had 12 turnovers in the first quarter. They definitely blew this game.
That said, this somehow felt like a game the Lakers lost more than the Heat won. They never seemed fully invested in the proceedings, they've completely fallen in love with shooting from 3, and the defense has been noticeably absent. The Lakers have won in these playoffs in part because they've been able to make a single adjustment, and just like every other series so far, Vogel usually waits until a loss. It does make Game 4 more interesting to see what exactly that adjustment will be.
The biggest adjustment I saw from the Heat is not allowing an easy switch with Robinson or Herro from Lebron. Like, they. would be on him for 2 seconds, then Butler runs back and they go find their man, and Lebron was too hesitant to take advantage of the momentary mismatch or the momentary confusion.
On the other end, Lebron was not fighting through picks at all. He was taking the Butler assignment when he got going, but they would just do a simple screen and the Lakers would switch with no fight. So, there's almost no point to putting yourself on Butler anyway.
So, the easy adjustment, in my opinion (aside from AD at center and not in foul trouble, of course) would be for Lebron to act quickly on those screens and temporary mismatches, and to fight harder through picks.
The Lakers basically did the opposite of what they did the first two games offensively and defensively. The only adjustment needed is to review the tape from game 1 and do that again. There was no help defense happening all game and that’s at least half of Butler’s points being mostly undefended. You block two or three of his shots in the lane and the game is completely different, but Lakers bigs weren’t even trying.
I did like watching Butler taking what was given to him though.
Basically if Butler can keep putting up 40 point triple doubles and the Lakers can keep lackadaisically shooting there’s then the Heat just might pull this off.
The Heat were playing without 2 out of 3 of their best players. Herro sucked until the last 4 minutes. Sure, the Lakers played poorly, but we shouldn't act like the Heat played the best game of which they are capable.
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Basically if Butler can keep putting up 40 point triple doubles and the Lakers can keep lackadaisically shooting there’s then the Heat just might pull this off.
The Heat were playing without 2 out of 3 of their best players. Herro sucked until the last 4 minutes. Sure, the Lakers played poorly, but we shouldn't act like the Heat played the best game of which they are capable.
Yeah but there is a decent chance the Heat are finishing this series without those two players.
I feel like Adebayo returning will be enough of a spark to get the Lakers to refocus. They really seemed to lose interest once him and Dragic were out.
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Didn't say it would solve it but he's the only dressed player that isn't looking up through Davis's nostrils.
This could get real ugly real fast
The one thing I would guess is that they assume Bam comes back in the next game no matter what, and that Dragic may try to come back quickly as well. If they're rested in this game, they can go all out in Game 3 against Miami's last stand and essentially end the series.
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Can't pro athletes go all out every game, when it comes to the finals? I understand the strategy, but its not like any unused effort can just be tacked onto the next game.
I dunno, maybe I don't understand the conditioning and maximum effort levels of pro athletes, but some teams seem to be able to do ot every game in a playoffs.
I think Lebron has to be coming up on most minutes ever played
17 seasons, 15 playoffs, 10 finals, olympics, been mostly healthy and averaged like 40 minutes per his first 10 seasons...
They have to win 4 games so if they can easily win tonight and take their foot off the pedal so they have a little more gas in case the Heat get healthier for the next game... they will.
I think it does depend on a team-by-team basis. Like, the Heat have gotten this far because their conditioning is the best in the NBA and they're giving maximum effort the entire time, which causes opponents to tire out by the 4th quarter. On the flip side, the Lakers have so much talent that they can choose when they want to go maximum effort to tilt the game in their favor.
Also the playoffs already require more effort in general just because the stakes are so high, so if a team can find actual in-game time to get rest, that can really help them in the long run.
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Being a fan of this team is a special kind of frustrating.
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Still within 3 by end of quarter though.
This is how Lebron can get Finals MVP though. AD doesn't have that consistency down all the way yet.
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DRAMA
That said, this somehow felt like a game the Lakers lost more than the Heat won. They never seemed fully invested in the proceedings, they've completely fallen in love with shooting from 3, and the defense has been noticeably absent. The Lakers have won in these playoffs in part because they've been able to make a single adjustment, and just like every other series so far, Vogel usually waits until a loss. It does make Game 4 more interesting to see what exactly that adjustment will be.
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Hell yeah Jimmy go off
The Lakers had 12 turnovers in the first quarter. They definitely blew this game.
The biggest adjustment I saw from the Heat is not allowing an easy switch with Robinson or Herro from Lebron. Like, they. would be on him for 2 seconds, then Butler runs back and they go find their man, and Lebron was too hesitant to take advantage of the momentary mismatch or the momentary confusion.
On the other end, Lebron was not fighting through picks at all. He was taking the Butler assignment when he got going, but they would just do a simple screen and the Lakers would switch with no fight. So, there's almost no point to putting yourself on Butler anyway.
So, the easy adjustment, in my opinion (aside from AD at center and not in foul trouble, of course) would be for Lebron to act quickly on those screens and temporary mismatches, and to fight harder through picks.
I did like watching Butler taking what was given to him though.
The Heat were playing without 2 out of 3 of their best players. Herro sucked until the last 4 minutes. Sure, the Lakers played poorly, but we shouldn't act like the Heat played the best game of which they are capable.
Yeah but there is a decent chance the Heat are finishing this series without those two players.
Dragic for sure.
I think that depends on if Lebron is distracted again checking Twitter to see if Trump is dead yet
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Honestly, I think he is cognizant of his fg%. He keeps.like giving the ball up to Danny Green to shoot it when there are 3 secs left on the shot clock