Penny Arcade - Comic - Lilygilding

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Penny Arcade - Comic - Lilygilding

Videogaming-related online strip by Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins. Includes news and commentary.

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Anon von Zilch

Well it's probably good for a Jedi to be able to put others at ease.

H3Knuckles

But, like, they've already done this (the High Republic) before, in multiple separate time periods. The EU is no longer canon, but even so, I guess I don't get the point of it? Like, this is an old problem for the IP, because they kept retreading the same several conflicts over and over in different time periods. Which is dumb, because it's a whole galaxy. If they want to keep retelling the Old Republic vs Sith over and over, just set the stories up in parallel during one era. Show us different fronts of the same war. This is a symptom of how small the galaxy is often made to feel, that they feel like they need to keep redoing these particular star wars, so that the newest protagonist can be the protagonist for the whole galaxy, every time. But the net result is that the overall timeline felt stupid, because it is so absurdly cyclical, as well as technologically stagnant (that last one I blame Bioware for, at least Dark Horse's Tales of the Jedi series tried to make the Republic thousands of years before the original film trilogy look like a ancient era of interstellar tech in comparison).

Kaitensatsuma

I seem to recall, long, long, LONG ago we established that Wookies can use....other...limbs to knock people's heads off.

The Lightsaber would be a mercy

Lucascraft

I hard disagree with the sentiment of this comic.

I saw the wookie with the lightsaber, and it was love at first sight. I was ready to go all in and give Disney all my money and sign up for the Wookie Jedi newsletter.

MarcinMN

The Clone Wars series had a Wookie youngling, so it isn't entirely unprecedented.

Lucascraft

You know what kind of wookies use lightsabers? Refined, gentlemanly wookies who don't want to get their paws and fur all bloody.

Same with bears with katanas. Why risk chipping a claw or breaking a tooth, when you could dispatch your foe with a katana? Also: Bears wearing full samurai gear sounds pretty rad to me. I am now also fully on board the katana bear train as well as the wookie lightsaber train.

Side note: Anybody remember Dino-Riders from the late 80s? Dinosaurs are ferocious on their own, with the claws and teeth and horns and spikes and armored carapaces and what not. But add missile launchers, lasers, and heavy munitions to dinosaurs, and it makes them even more awesome. Seriously though. How has this not made a resurgence in recent years? A full CGI Dino Riders movie with explosions galore would be the greatest thing ever.

H3Knuckles

MarcinMN wrote: »

The Clone Wars series had a Wookie youngling, so it isn't entirely unprecedented.

Also Lowbacca in the Young Jedi series, though I never read them. I don't mind wookiee jedi, but I do think putting one in the robes feels kind of silly, somehow.

Lucascraft wrote: »

You know what kind of wookies use lightsabers? Refined, gentlemanly wookies who don't want to get their paws and fur all bloody.

Same with bears with katanas. Why risk chipping a claw or breaking a tooth, when you could dispatch your foe with a katana? Also: Bears wearing full samurai gear sounds pretty rad to me. I am now also fully on board the katana bear train as well as the wookie lightsaber train.

Side note: Anybody remember Dino-Riders from the late 80s? Dinosaurs are ferocious on their own, with the claws and teeth and horns and spikes and armored carapaces and what not. But add missile launchers, lasers, and heavy munitions to dinosaurs, and it makes them even more awesome. Seriously though. How has this not made a resurgence in recent years? A full CGI Dino Riders movie with explosions galore would be the greatest thing ever.

I dunno, I think bears would fit better as knights or barbarians. Samurai seem like they should be a more agile animal. Dog people would make sense with their loyalty and a samurai's sense of duty.

As for dino-riders, I had a bunch of their toys as a kid, and they were pretty great. Every now and then I have to remind myself that the really cool themesong was for dinosaucers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy7fO2i9y94

Quid

I got no issue with a Wookie using a light saber or wearing clothes that mark them as a Jedi.

KoopahTroopah

"Shhh! I'm trying to watch the movie!"

zeromh

It bothers me that people talk about "gilding the lily," when the original quote from King John was a more apt metaphor for pointless adornment. The original:

"Therefore, to be possess'd with double pomp, To guard a title that was rich before, To gild refined gold, to paint the lily, to throw a perfume on the violet, to smooth the ice, or add another hue unto the rainbow, or with taper-light to seek the beauteous eye of heaven to garnish, is wasteful and ridiculous excess."

Each example of excess mirrors the thing it is an excess of. I like this better.

@h3knuckles, thank you for reminding me about Dinosaucers. As I hear it now it's a ridiculous name, but it hits that nostalgia button.

Lucascraft

Yes, but specifically with wookies, I don't think there's such a thing as "too much."

One cannot over-adorn a wookie. One can only make a wookie more awesome.

Preacher

Quid wrote: »

I got no issue with a Wookie using a light saber or wearing clothes that mark them as a Jedi.

Yeah seriously. If anything it would be nice for wookies to not all have to be chewbacca. Maybe chewbacca was weird and breathed through his fur and the rest of the wookies wore clothes.

Pyrian

Maybe he uses the lightsaber defensively? Blocking blaster bolts and, well, other lightsabers.

Tofystedeth

What if, and I'm just spitballing here, lightsaber claws.

T-Danger

Lucascraft wrote: »

Side note: Anybody remember Dino-Riders from the late 80s? Dinosaurs are ferocious on their own, with the claws and teeth and horns and spikes and armored carapaces and what not. But add missile launchers, lasers, and heavy munitions to dinosaurs, and it makes them even more awesome. Seriously though. How has this not made a resurgence in recent years? A full CGI Dino Riders movie with explosions galore would be the greatest thing ever.

Then boy have I got a movie for you!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaWwugEXwyU

shoeboxjeddy

The comic's point is bad and it should feel bad. Saying Wookies "can't" or "shouldn't" be Jedi unavoidably comes off as space racist. Kind of like how the new movies casually fell into treating Chewie like the team dog instead of a sentient person who was a hero of the Rebellion the same as Han, Luke, and Leia. Yes, Wookies are good at murder with their bare hands (or other appendages, ha ha). They also carry the largest, most dangerous guns out of any race we've ever seen because uh... it's very easy to get killed by other people's guns, even if you're very very strong. Carrying a Lightsaber that can cut through anything and block laser blasts seems just smart to do?

LieutenantDan

If you overthink it, everyone should have lightsabers.

RatherDashing89

shoeboxjeddy wrote: »

Kind of like how the new movies casually fell into treating Chewie like the team dog instead of a sentient person who was a hero of the Rebellion the same as Han, Luke, and Leia.

To be fair the original movies absolutely treated Chewie like the dog or the dumb friend, just like it was pretty much taken as an assumption that droids didn't matter.

Tofystedeth

NGL if I had a luxurious pelt I probably wouldn't wear a lot of clothing

Golden Yak

LieutenantDan wrote: »

If you overthink it, everyone should have lightsabers.

"Why don't they make armor out of lightsaber handle material?"

Hevach

Golden Yak wrote: »

LieutenantDan wrote: »

If you overthink it, everyone should have lightsabers.

"Why don't they make armor out of lightsaber handle material?"

Why would you do that when you can project lightsaber blades around yourself and laser beams bounce off every which way.

H3Knuckles

Hevach wrote: »

Golden Yak wrote: »

LieutenantDan wrote: »

If you overthink it, everyone should have lightsabers.

"Why don't they make armor out of lightsaber handle material?"

Why would you do that when you can project lightsaber blades around yourself and laser beams bounce off every which way.

Same reason you wouldn't try to survive a zombie apocalypse by wearing a suit made of chainsaws.

Tube

Chewie is a dog

Ringo

Han is the dog!

H3Knuckles

Ringo wrote: »

Han is the dog!

I understood that reference.gif

Edit: wait, double reference. It also works as an actor joke because of Indiana Jones.

Commander Zoom

and Barf is a mawg - half man, half dog. (He's his own best friend!)

Geddoe

Tofystedeth wrote: »

NGL if I had a luxurious pelt I probably wouldn't wear a lot of clothing

In a similar vein, if I had a six(or eight) pack, I would be shirtless a lot more.

Bursar

I think we're all guilty of assuming that the Wookiee Jedi is a normal Wookiee wearing robes. We don't know if he's actually hairless due to some strange Jedi cult business (like the opposite of a hair shirt or something), and we're all being spared the sight of shaved Wookiee.

But, well, to quote the Six-Million-Dollar Man: "Sasquatch ain't got nothin' you haven't seen before."

Drascin

...why the heck would Wookiees not be able to be Jedi? What, if you're big and hairy you're no longer allowed to have force powers and a sword?

MichaelLC

Drascin wrote: »

...why the heck would Wookiees not be able to be Jedi? What, if you're big and hairy you're no longer allowed to have force powers and a sword?

The Midi-chlorians get all caught up in the fur, can't do their thing.

Tube

Drascin wrote: »

...why the heck would Wookiees not be able to be Jedi? What, if you're big and hairy you're no longer allowed to have force powers and a sword?

because they're just dumb dogs

see317

Honestly, I can't help but think the worst part about a wookiee jedi would be the smell of burnt hair whenever a lightsaber got a bit too close to that glorious pelt.

Drascin

Tube wrote: »

Drascin wrote: »

...why the heck would Wookiees not be able to be Jedi? What, if you're big and hairy you're no longer allowed to have force powers and a sword?

because they're just dumb dogs

Yeah, fuck that, honestly. Wookiees are cool.

dennis

Drascin wrote: »

...why the heck would Wookiees not be able to be Jedi? What, if you're big and hairy you're no longer allowed to have force powers and a sword?

They thought it was best, what with all the butt scooting. Those poor floor cleaning droids...

Delzhand

Tube wrote: »

Chewie is a dog

Actually Chewbacca is the scientist, you're thinking of Chewbacca's monster

Tube

Drascin wrote: »

Tube wrote: »

Drascin wrote: »

...why the heck would Wookiees not be able to be Jedi? What, if you're big and hairy you're no longer allowed to have force powers and a sword?

because they're just dumb dogs

Yeah, fuck that, honestly. Wookiees are cool.

Dogs are cool too.

Ringo

So are you saying Beethoven shouldn't be a Jedi?

I'm not sure I follow

Kamar

I wonder if it's still canon that using your claws to fight is taboo for wookiees?

dennis

Well, shit. I just got word that they checked the jedi rulebook, and ain't no rule says a dog can't be a jedi.

WHEN WILL THEY LEARN?

MarcinMN

dennis wrote: »

Well, shit. I just got word that they checked the jedi rulebook, and ain't no rule says a dog can't be a jedi.

WHEN WILL THEY LEARN?

Well, we've already established that a cat can be a Jedi, so why not a dog?