WSP-3W
Manufactured by Achernar for Wolf's Dragoons in 3050, the Clan Invasion era 3W upgraded the armor to Ferro-Fibrous and carried two Sutel Precision Line Small Pulse Lasers in the right arm and four ChisComp 32 small lasers split between left leg and left torso. This increased firepower came at the cost of reducing armor protection to just two tons. BV (1.0) = 276, BV (2.0) = 342
Okay 2xSPLas and 4xSLas is kind of weird but I get it. A solid build, not unlike the Locust folks love to run in MWO.
But putting 2 lasers in one leg? That's ... that's a drunk mechtech is what that is.
That's "using a hardpoint". The -1A original flavor uses an SRM rack in the leg.
But for reals, I'd take that -3W and upgrade it to a -4W ASAP if given the means. In fact, that's literally the upgrade path given in the RecGuide description!
WSP-3W
Manufactured by Achernar for Wolf's Dragoons in 3050, the Clan Invasion era 3W upgraded the armor to Ferro-Fibrous and carried two Sutel Precision Line Small Pulse Lasers in the right arm and four ChisComp 32 small lasers split between left leg and left torso. This increased firepower came at the cost of reducing armor protection to just two tons. BV (1.0) = 276, BV (2.0) = 342
Okay 2xSPLas and 4xSLas is kind of weird but I get it. A solid build, not unlike the Locust folks love to run in MWO.
But putting 2 lasers in one leg? That's ... that's a drunk mechtech is what that is.
That's "using a hardpoint". The -1A original flavor uses an SRM rack in the leg.
But for reals, I'd take that -3W and upgrade it to a -4W ASAP if given the means. In fact, that's literally the upgrade path given in the RecGuide description!
WSP-3W
Manufactured by Achernar for Wolf's Dragoons in 3050, the Clan Invasion era 3W upgraded the armor to Ferro-Fibrous and carried two Sutel Precision Line Small Pulse Lasers in the right arm and four ChisComp 32 small lasers split between left leg and left torso. This increased firepower came at the cost of reducing armor protection to just two tons. BV (1.0) = 276, BV (2.0) = 342
Okay 2xSPLas and 4xSLas is kind of weird but I get it. A solid build, not unlike the Locust folks love to run in MWO.
But putting 2 lasers in one leg? That's ... that's a drunk mechtech is what that is.
That's "using a hardpoint". The -1A original flavor uses an SRM rack in the leg.
But for reals, I'd take that -3W and upgrade it to a -4W ASAP if given the means. In fact, that's literally the upgrade path given in the RecGuide description!
What's the -4W got going on?
Swaps in an LFE and DHS for the standard equipment, sports 2xSPL 2xERML for guns, and most importantly has almost twice the armor.
And the SPLs are still in the left leg, for maximum tech-laziness.
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Oh god, all of those new designs for the Unseen are so fucking sexy and better yet, super true to their original looks! I couldn't be happier for how those are starting out.
Oh god, all of those new designs for the Unseen are so fucking sexy and better yet, super true to their original looks! I couldn't be happier for how those are starting out.
And the Piranha is....a Piranha. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yeah that one looks the least different for me. Still good, just, not very different.
e: The most interesting thing about it to me is the arms. It kind of looks like they designed it with laser hands and then went back and bolted forearms and hands onto the lasers, which is kind of neat.
The Vapor Eagle feels off to me, but that may be because I’m so used to the MWO version and it’s perhaps the one redesign I’ve seen that doesn’t even look closely related.
The Vapor Eagle feels off to me, but that may be because I’m so used to the MWO version and it’s perhaps the one redesign I’ve seen that doesn’t even look closely related.
Not saying it’s bad though.
No real complaints on the others
Yeah I can't decide if it's the face or the chest but one or the other is ever so slightly ... off
Juuuust off enough to bug me a very little bit. Also the MWO model is a bit thinner in the legs.
Horned Owl looks very Metroid-y compared to the original
But all of these are minor quibbles and I feel like I'm reaching to find anything so overall I basically love them
These were the designs that originally came from Victor Musical Industries (it was contracted iirc) for the original 3055 TRO, and were declared Unseen after the Harmony Gold lawsuit as an attempt to remove all possible avenues of related lawsuits.
These were the designs that originally came from Victor Musical Industries (it was contracted iirc) for the original 3055 TRO, and were declared Unseen after the Harmony Gold lawsuit as an attempt to remove all possible avenues of related lawsuits.
This is now, literally, my every day conundrum with regard to my hobby money.
"Do I want to buy [X], or is this money better saved for More Stompy Bots?"
So far this rubric is working well to keep me from splurging on more old Unseen stuff that I already have at least one copy of, or for currently-in-production stuff that I do not yet have.
I love that the Clans were so bizarrely averse to even mentioning wolverines after what happened with the 'not-named Clan' that they had to rename what is clearly the Wolverine IIC as something else. Like, that's a great bit of lore; FASA wanted to do a Wolverine IIC because they were also doing IIC's for the Griffin and Shadowhawk in TRO-3055, but they realized it'd be kind of weird, so they came up with this instead. It's eyeroll-inducing, but it totally fits how stodgy and uptight the more conservative Clans could be.
I love that the Clans were so bizarrely averse to even mentioning wolverines after what happened with the 'not-named Clan' that they had to rename what is clearly the Wolverine IIC as something else. Like, that's a great bit of lore; FASA wanted to do a Wolverine IIC because they were also doing IIC's for the Griffin and Shadowhawk in TRO-3055, but they realized it'd be kind of weird, so they came up with this instead. It's eyeroll-inducing, but it totally fits how stodgy and uptight the more conservative Clans could be.
It's the weird stuff like this that makes me love this game the most.
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H3KnucklesBut we decide which is rightand which is an illusion.Registered Userregular
edited August 2020
I like to imagine a scenario where Inner Sphere pilots are working with Clan mechwarriors, like maybe with Wolves or Nova Cats during Operation Bulldog? You know they'd be constantly ribbing the clanners about that. Just a big shit-eating grin "oh, you mean your Wolverine?"
*sour face* "It's a Conjurer"
"Oh, of course, how could I ever get them confused? Totally different." *mimes patting clanner on head*
*grumbling to self* "Maybe you're getting senile in your old age. Freeborn."
Basically, I picture the clan mechwarrior as being like Worf in early ST:TNG, or Teal'c in early Stargate SG-1.
I like to imagine a scenario where Inner Sphere pilots are working with Clan mechwarriors, like maybe with Wolves or Nova Cats during Operation Bulldog? You know they'd be constantly ribbing the clanners about that. Just a big shit-eating grin "oh, you mean your Wolverine?"
*sour face* "It's a Conjurer"
"Oh, of course, how could I ever get them confused? Totally different." *mimes patting clanner on head*
*grumbling to self* "Maybe you're getting senile in your old age. Freeborn."
Basically, I picture the clan mechwarrior as being like Worf in early ST:TNG, or Teal'c in early Stargate SG-1.
"Oh man! Your Mech may be small, but you fight with the ferocity of one of those, uh. . . oh geez what're they called?"
-Clanner visible indignation-
"Y'know, those small, furry little bastards?"
-Clanner enmity grows-
"Oh! I remember now! You fight like a Honey Badger!"
Axen on
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NipsHe/HimLuxuriating in existential crisis.Registered Userregular
edited August 2020
A ha! The hoarding forethought of Past Me strikes again! I found the zip files of the STL collections on my phone after finding them in Syllogy's Patreon feed, and am uploading them to my gDrive now.
A ha! The hoarding forethought of Past Me strikes again! I found the zip files of the STL collections on my phone after finding them in Syllogy's Patreon feed, and am uploading them to my gDrive now.
new renders are looking good. Love my fat bottomed girl hunchback there. Not too skinny, not too thicc.
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H3KnucklesBut we decide which is rightand which is an illusion.Registered Userregular
edited August 2020
Enforcer's looking a little more swole than I was expecting, but it's good. I've always been fond of the design since my first game of tabletop where it played a pivotal role in turning a losing fight to my favor. I'd used it to harass my opponent to the point they over-committed to trying to chase it down, letting my Atlas finish off their Cyclops one on one. Then I looped the Enforcer around some mountains to draw them back towards my assault and won the resulting 2v2. To be fair, it was my opponent's first game as well (we'd both gotten into it via Mechwarrior 2 on PC), and they had some very unlucky rolls while chasing my ENF.
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That's "using a hardpoint".
But for reals, I'd take that -3W and upgrade it to a -4W ASAP if given the means. In fact, that's literally the upgrade path given in the RecGuide description!
What's the -4W got going on?
Swaps in an LFE and DHS for the standard equipment, sports 2xSPL 2xERML for guns, and most importantly has almost twice the armor.
And the SPLs are still in the left leg, for maximum tech-laziness.
And the Piranha is....a Piranha. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yeah that one looks the least different for me. Still good, just, not very different.
e: The most interesting thing about it to me is the arms. It kind of looks like they designed it with laser hands and then went back and bolted forearms and hands onto the lasers, which is kind of neat.
Not saying it’s bad though.
No real complaints on the others
Yeah I can't decide if it's the face or the chest but one or the other is ever so slightly ... off
Juuuust off enough to bug me a very little bit. Also the MWO model is a bit thinner in the legs.
Horned Owl looks very Metroid-y compared to the original
But all of these are minor quibbles and I feel like I'm reaching to find anything so overall I basically love them
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Vapor Eagle (Goshawk)
Conjurer (Hellhound)
Horned Owl (Peregrine)
Incubus (Vixen)
They're all second-line designs from TRO 3055.
See here
And to this day I still believe grouping the VMI designs in with the rest was a mistake.
At least we're getting some satisfying resolution to that mistake in the coming year.
I never even realized the others were Unseen until after I got back into BT and was confused over the Stone Rhino redo.
I love it because it threads the needle between the look of the Unseen version and the look of the new Classic Wolverine just perfectly. *chef's kiss*
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This is now, literally, my every day conundrum with regard to my hobby money.
"Do I want to buy [X], or is this money better saved for More Stompy Bots?"
So far this rubric is working well to keep me from splurging on more old Unseen stuff that I already have at least one copy of, or for currently-in-production stuff that I do not yet have.
Or keep them all MISB, stored in a closet somewhere....
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I love that the Clans were so bizarrely averse to even mentioning wolverines after what happened with the 'not-named Clan' that they had to rename what is clearly the Wolverine IIC as something else. Like, that's a great bit of lore; FASA wanted to do a Wolverine IIC because they were also doing IIC's for the Griffin and Shadowhawk in TRO-3055, but they realized it'd be kind of weird, so they came up with this instead. It's eyeroll-inducing, but it totally fits how stodgy and uptight the more conservative Clans could be.
It's the weird stuff like this that makes me love this game the most.
*sour face* "It's a Conjurer"
"Oh, of course, how could I ever get them confused? Totally different." *mimes patting clanner on head*
*grumbling to self* "Maybe you're getting senile in your old age. Freeborn."
Basically, I picture the clan mechwarrior as being like Worf in early ST:TNG, or Teal'c in early Stargate SG-1.
"Oh man! Your Mech may be small, but you fight with the ferocity of one of those, uh. . . oh geez what're they called?"
-Clanner visible indignation-
"Y'know, those small, furry little bastards?"
-Clanner enmity grows-
"Oh! I remember now! You fight like a Honey Badger!"
Whoa, this is pretty awesome! I should fire up MW5 some day.
I, um. I might...I might need them. In a month or so.
Y'know, for no particular reason.
I would like to know also. For science.
Honestly I only have a few of them myself, mainly some Locusts.
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Calling @HydroSqueegee our once and future Hoardsman, IIRC.
Maybe also @Ianator ?
And here's a link to the drive folder, for ease.
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1mVXf6HKrapAEdy4ITWD1dCVuPYvl9NcZ
So, how easy to work with are these files?
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Try it now. I forgot I had to flip a switch, and working on mobile is...not good for anything really.
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Definitely going to need those STLs now in a bit...
Let me know how you like it!
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glad my tardiness to the thread wasnt an issue.
new renders are looking good. Love my fat bottomed girl hunchback there. Not too skinny, not too thicc.
its a nice panoramic view. loft bed, fireplace and kegarator.
Open concept.
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