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[Heroes of the Storm] thread: Don't get excited, Dibby; we're just talking.

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    kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    re: the three Falstads. It was ARAM, you can have duplicate heroes there.

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    MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    The Falstad stuff is from ARAM where duplicate heroes can happen. I saw a clip of a triple Garrosh creating a throw train from midlane to behind their gate. Funny stuff.

    For Zeratul, I'm guessing he was teched with:

    1-Shadow Hunter at 1 (Basic attacks lower Blink cooldown by 1.5)
    4-Darkness Descends (AA 20% faster)
    7-Wormhole (teleport back initial Blink spot) <- seen at 2:24 to 2:28
    10-Mark of the Narazeem (copy last basic ability used) <- seen at 2:44 to 2:45
    13-Shroud of Adun (50 Spell Armor) <-guessed based off the other two talents not proccing
    16-No idea, maybe Master of Warp Blade
    20-Shadow Stride (Vorpal Blade CD reduced by 10 and grants shield) <- seen at 2:29

    The idea here is that Zera can Blink in and out, x2 Vorpal Blade to engage again, basic attacks to CD Blink, and R to copy Blink as needed.

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    Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    Best thread title.

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    MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    Brawls ftw!

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    MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    kime wrote: »
    re: the three Falstads. It was ARAM, you can have duplicate heroes there.

    So you could have 5 Abathurs who Ultimate Evolution clone each other?

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    MrBody wrote: »
    kime wrote: »
    re: the three Falstads. It was ARAM, you can have duplicate heroes there.

    So you could have 5 Abathurs who Ultimate Evolution clone each other?

    No because abathur is not an available hero in ARAM

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    MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    But technically, yes.

    The first incarnations of arams, when they were called something else, had different versions such as 5 illidans vs 5 illidans, 5 novas vs 5 novas, etc..

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I miss pool party

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    MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    I miss pool party

    Wait, wasn't it called Pull Party? Either way, that was a lot of fun.

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    fortyforty Registered User regular
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    Damn this person must have been the master at it.

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    fortyforty Registered User regular
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    :(

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    BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    There was that sand fight one with chromie and the pull party fights

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    SmrtnikSmrtnik job boli zub Registered User regular
    Brainleech wrote: »
    There was that sand fight one with chromie and the pull party fights

    They also had the pve one where you have to take out a Zerg swarm, a "heroic" version of the same, a few different ones where 3 of the objective would be up at the same time on a tiny map, and an arena over where they would have environmental hazards popping up.

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    milk ducksmilk ducks High Mucky Muck Big Tits TownRegistered User regular
    I want the PvE stuff back so much it hurts.

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    MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    Back to back Sonya wins tonight. Full W build seems really solid. I went Leap to get to the squishy backline and to have an escape. First win was via lots of soaking and second win via hard engages. The crater ult upgrade is hilarious.

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    fortyforty Registered User regular
    I miss getting that extra chest every week.

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    WhelkWhelk Registered User regular
    Sonya is probs my main due to sheer levels. She's a blast. I'm glad you're having a good time with her!

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    MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    edited May 2021
    Well, back to back losses (as ETC/Cassia) negated my Sonya wins from last night. The game seems to be perfectly balanced around teammates who don't understand what soak, drafting, or fighting down levels means.

    I think that drafting is my biggest problem right now. I typically try to grab a bruiser so I can soak camp with (Sonya, Rag, etc), but I get so many teammates refusing to tank/heal or just snap pick their favorite hero regardless of the enemy comp. Like, I don't WANT to tank if I don't have to because I feel like I'm having less impact on the game. Relying on teammates is such a toss-up, and even in games where I do soak/camp on time, they often take bad fights and throw away our advantage.

    Should I just stop caring what our comp is like? Seems like a surefire way to get flamed and set the team into salt mode. Thoughts?

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    Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    Ignore comp, turn off chat, stop trying to herd cats. That's my two cents, but YMMV.

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    MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    edited May 2021
    Oh my GAWD, 45 minute game to level 30. The bad kind, because your team is dumb and can't end it.

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    All the enemy forts were down. We were 1 seed from a terror. All we had to do was wait until the next seed, grab it, and win.

    So of course my team decides to rush the full health enemy core, while the entire enemy team is there, and we're a level down.

    Wipe. Almost lose when they get our core down to 40% but I'm such a BOSS that I held off a 3v1 for twenty whole seconds until my team came back. We got the 3rd seed and FINALLY ended it.

    Dear god though that game. A junkrat who just picked random talents and decided not to specialize in anything and constantly suicided because he thought Rocket Ride was a get out of fail free card (he was half our deaths for most of the game), in addition to being dead last for hero damage and xp (in fact, our 3 assassins were in the bottom 3 spots for hero damage all game)

    But the gold medal had to go to our Naz who not only couldn't get stacks, but decides to take Vile Infection at level 20 when he only has 130 stacks. He didn't get 175 until level TWENTY-SIX!!! So from level 20-25, he had a storm tier talent that was doing absolutely nothing.

    Just amazing.

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    Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    Weekend HotS never change.

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    milk ducksmilk ducks High Mucky Muck Big Tits TownRegistered User regular
    edited May 2021
    Set your preference to Bruiser, so it's visible to everyone on your team. As soon as the draft begins, type, "Hey guys, I'll offlane / soak. If you have a preference on Bruiser, let me know XD". And if they fail to draft a Healer / Tank at that point, and try to force those positions onto you, stick to your guns -- they get what they deserve.

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    MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    edited May 2021
    Oh wait, I forgot the crown jewel.

    I told my team "back" over and over when they pushed the core.
    They all wipe. I get away.
    "We just threw the game there," I type.
    3 enemy heroes pummel our core down to 40% unopposed
    I distract and harass them enough so they can't finish it off. Survive 1v3 for 20 seconds until team respawns.
    (this involves my DVa mech blowing up THREE times: one self destruct, one destruction, a quick-remech thanks to the increased auto attack timer reduction talent, and a final destruction)
    We win.
    Nazeebo: "See? We didn't lose."
    Nazeebo: "Idiot"


    ........

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    A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    milk ducks wrote: »
    Set your preference to Bruiser, so it's visible to everyone on your team.

    Oh you sweet summer child

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    milk ducksmilk ducks High Mucky Muck Big Tits TownRegistered User regular
    milk ducks wrote: »
    Set your preference to Bruiser, so it's visible to everyone on your team.

    Oh you sweet summer child

    Oh, I expect them to ignore it.
    And I expect them to learn not to.

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    MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    milk ducks wrote: »
    milk ducks wrote: »
    Set your preference to Bruiser, so it's visible to everyone on your team.

    Oh you sweet summer child

    Oh, I expect them to ignore it.
    And I expect them to learn not to.

    I've currently got Bruiser/Ranged Assassin set as my preferences. I'll try the above suggestions.

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    A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    I should say that I religiously update my class preference and indeed ask in chat about people that are showing the same.

    I'm just scarred from watching the thousands of support/tanks snap locking illidan

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    milk ducksmilk ducks High Mucky Muck Big Tits TownRegistered User regular
    edited May 2021
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    milk ducks wrote: »
    milk ducks wrote: »
    Set your preference to Bruiser, so it's visible to everyone on your team.

    Oh you sweet summer child

    Oh, I expect them to ignore it.
    And I expect them to learn not to.

    I've currently got Bruiser/Ranged Assassin set as my preferences. I'll try the above suggestions.

    I would also just go ahead and show Sonya at that point. That way you've: displayed your intentions at a glance with your preference settings; announced your intentions to the team up front; and reinforced those intentions by shadowing your pick. If they fail to acknowledge your clear communication at that point, then you'd be wasting your time trying to fill for them, anyway, because they've already proven that they aren't capable of, or interested in, working as a team. And you owe them nothing if that's the case.

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    BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    Ignore comp, turn off chat, stop trying to herd cats. That's my two cents, but YMMV.

    I turned off chat I think over 4 years ago {it was when the Troll took office and Li ming came out}
    I would only do Comp for the mount but I don't know if they offer it anymore

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    MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    edited May 2021
    Me (as Muradin): "Don't fight for objective. We're 2 levels and a talent down. Soak." (pushes empty lane)
    Teammate: (dies at objective) "Muradin not participate. Report for afk"

    It was Garden Terror and the enemy was at 0/3 seeds. There was absolutely no reason to fight for that seed spawn.

    My Muradin outdamaged his Tracer :\


    (seriously, what IS it with assholes playing dual-wielders?)

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    MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    Hahaha

    Enemy Qhira decides it's a good idea to latch onto my Tracer with Revolving Sweep.

    *triple blink back into my fort*

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    MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    Here's a fun tidbit form her development history.
    Qhira's E (Revolving Sweep) becoming disconnected from Unstoppable targets was the most elegant solution to several issues the developers were having during Qhira's development. During a playtest game, the developers had a Qhira on one team and a Chen on the other. During the middle of the game in a heated team fight, Qhira used her Revolving Sweep on Chen and Chen used his Flying Kick on Qhira. Suddenly, Chen and Qhira both blasted off into the sky and disappeared off the map.

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    kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    I swear in one of the early Qhira videos (spotlight maybe?) they said you could AA her when she was spinning, too, but that definitely never made it live. Probably due to weird bug interactions :D

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    The revolving sweep is a fun mechanic but the fact that it fucking roots you in place during the animation drops Qhira from viable to dogshit.

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    MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    MrBody wrote: »
    Hahaha

    Enemy Qhira decides it's a good idea to latch onto my Tracer with Revolving Sweep.

    *triple blink back into my fort*

    Here's that exact play.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Any qhira worth their salt is going to immediately reactivate if they hit someone with a disjointed hitbox ability.

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    MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    edited May 2021
    Any qhira worth their salt is going to immediately reactivate if they hit someone with a disjointed hitbox ability.

    Negative. Their job is to amuse me.

    Speaking of which, this is the hardest I've laughed at a WTF replay.

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    milk ducksmilk ducks High Mucky Muck Big Tits TownRegistered User regular
    I miss HotS. The way it used to be, the community we had, the in-house tournaments (even when they were dramatic shit-shows lol), the cadence of the release schedule, the events, the communication with the team, etc. I just miss it. Heroes of the Storm might end up being, and this isn't something I say lightly, one of my favorite games of all time. One of my favorite experiences, for sure. There might not be any game that I play better than HotS, and I mean I play a lot of games, but there might not be a game that I understand as well as I do with HotS. Like I came from competitive shooters and my first YouTube channel was literally a Call of Duty tutorial center, and I play a lot of other high skill ceiling games today even still, but the way I see it is like ... I play all these other games, but I am a HotS player. And it is depressing for me to think about how useless that is at this point, lol. I just miss the way things used to be.

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    SmrtnikSmrtnik job boli zub Registered User regular
    edited May 2021
    milk ducks wrote: »
    I miss HotS. The way it used to be, the community we had, the in-house tournaments (even when they were dramatic shit-shows lol), the cadence of the release schedule, the events, the communication with the team, etc. I just miss it. Heroes of the Storm might end up being, and this isn't something I say lightly, one of my favorite games of all time. One of my favorite experiences, for sure. There might not be any game that I play better than HotS, and I mean I play a lot of games, but there might not be a game that I understand as well as I do with HotS. Like I came from competitive shooters and my first YouTube channel was literally a Call of Duty tutorial center, and I play a lot of other high skill ceiling games today even still, but the way I see it is like ... I play all these other games, but I am a HotS player. And it is depressing for me to think about how useless that is at this point, lol. I just miss the way things used to be.

    I mean, feel free to come back to /heroes of the Wang y'all

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