Asheville native Maria Norris said protesters started out downtown with police by their sides, peacefully escorting marchers through downtown and eventually onto the Bowen Bridge.
“We started out very peacefully, we marched… we all stayed peaceful," Norris said. “They took a knee with us, one of the officers shook my hand and they gave me a bottle of water."
But once protesters made it onto the bridge, Norris said, "we were met with tear gas and force from the Asheville Police Department. They waited, they worked with us as long as we were at the courthouse. When we stayed in the middle of town everything was fine.
“When we got to the bridge, when we got away from the tourism and the money and the hoity toity rich people that run this city they gassed us. They closed us off on the bridge and they gassed us," she said.
it's very important to not put basically any stock in the scattered reports of police marching alongside protests and dropping off cases of bottled water and shit. something similar happened in atlanta where the chief spent some time talking to protesters and everyone was all hopeful, and then she left and the cops teargassed and shot people. we probably shouldn't be getting too hopeful about the cities where things haven't gotten violent yet either. all it takes is for one cop to decide to start some shit for crowds to react and i think it'll be very difficult for the police to not go back to the old ways. i hope i'm wrong on this, but we'll see
whether this all is a result of individual cops being intentionally duplicitous or the rank and file not listening to leadership or warring factions within departments doesn't matter. we cannot trust the police. they've decided we're the enemy and you don't do nice things for your enemy
Rather than individual cops being duplicitous, it seems like a general police strategy to get those Good Cop photo ops to feed the press while they brutalize the protestors later, and lead the protesters away from capital before starting the beatings so they can't break windows in the masters' property.
Without a macro timeline of all the pieces, kinda hard to be firm.
My gut wants to believe in an all powerful oppressor, my brains considers the possibility of a ununified force and competing factions.
Both suck as far as America's future is concerned.
Thanks for all the information DouglasDanger, but I am specifically looking for evidence that cops infiltrate protests to turn them into riots or cops destroying property to make the protests look worse. I have made those specific claims in conversations and have realized that I don't really have any good evidence for them.
Thanks for all the information DouglasDanger, but I am specifically looking for evidence that cops infiltrate protests to turn them into riots or cops destroying property to make the protests look worse. I have made those specific claims in conversations and have realized that I don't really have any good evidence for them.
Thanks for all the information DouglasDanger, but I am specifically looking for evidence that cops infiltrate protests to turn them into riots or cops destroying property to make the protests look worse. I have made those specific claims in conversations and have realized that I don't really have any good evidence for them.
Thanks for all the information DouglasDanger, but I am specifically looking for evidence that cops infiltrate protests to turn them into riots or cops destroying property to make the protests look worse. I have made those specific claims in conversations and have realized that I don't really have any good evidence for them.
You're not going to find a lot of concrete information, because, well, proof requires prosecution and prosecution requires arrests. If you want stuff from these recent protests, there's not definitive proof yet that the undercover cops (who are extremely visible, if you just want to find some pictures of them) are actually serving as agent provocateurs.
But a few years back there was an incident where an undercover cop got convicted of coercion (amongst other things) for his role in the assault of a family during a large scale motorcycle ride sort of thing:
Thanks for all the information DouglasDanger, but I am specifically looking for evidence that cops infiltrate protests to turn them into riots or cops destroying property to make the protests look worse. I have made those specific claims in conversations and have realized that I don't really have any good evidence for them.
There are other videos claiming that the car was damaged by rioters first and what is being seen is the police removing the broken windows and windshield to make the cruiser drive-able. This is just a friendly reminder to remember double check things even if what is shown is something you want to see.
If anyone has evidence of cop's agitating protests to riot or cop's purposely causing property damage please post it. I have been searching for some evidence to show my father as we talk about current events.
Why do they need to drive it when they can tow it?
Probably because it would be hard, if not impossible, to get a towing truck through the protests, and the car would probably burn out if left there unattended. Like, I'm not pro cop or anything, but come on. We don't need to play dumb or make shit up, there is an overabundance of instances of cops being garbo without having to resort to that
Asheville native Maria Norris said protesters started out downtown with police by their sides, peacefully escorting marchers through downtown and eventually onto the Bowen Bridge.
“We started out very peacefully, we marched… we all stayed peaceful," Norris said. “They took a knee with us, one of the officers shook my hand and they gave me a bottle of water."
But once protesters made it onto the bridge, Norris said, "we were met with tear gas and force from the Asheville Police Department. They waited, they worked with us as long as we were at the courthouse. When we stayed in the middle of town everything was fine.
“When we got to the bridge, when we got away from the tourism and the money and the hoity toity rich people that run this city they gassed us. They closed us off on the bridge and they gassed us," she said.
it's very important to not put basically any stock in the scattered reports of police marching alongside protests and dropping off cases of bottled water and shit. something similar happened in atlanta where the chief spent some time talking to protesters and everyone was all hopeful, and then she left and the cops teargassed and shot people. we probably shouldn't be getting too hopeful about the cities where things haven't gotten violent yet either. all it takes is for one cop to decide to start some shit for crowds to react and i think it'll be very difficult for the police to not go back to the old ways. i hope i'm wrong on this, but we'll see
whether this all is a result of individual cops being intentionally duplicitous or the rank and file not listening to leadership or warring factions within departments doesn't matter. we cannot trust the police. they've decided we're the enemy and you don't do nice things for your enemy
Rather than individual cops being duplicitous, it seems like a general police strategy to get those Good Cop photo ops to feed the press while they brutalize the protestors later, and lead the protesters away from capital before starting the beatings so they can't break windows in the masters' property.
that's a very good point, it's definitely strategically useful for them. one more checkmark in the Don't Trust The Fuckin' Cops column
Jesus Christ the NYPD arrested De Blasio's daughter last night and then today tweeted out her unredacted arrest report with her license # and address.
And he's still kissing their asses.
That's what you do when an organized crime group with reach across the entire world threatens your daughter's life.
BdB has been bowing down to the nypd for a while now. Like, it's been noticeably a very odd thing. I've been starting to wonder if they have dirt on him or something, since a normal person would not act like he has been.
If that's all there is my friends, then let's keep dancing
It is almost, ALMOST, funny seeing just how many ways news organization can twist the English language to avoid anything that remotely sounds like cops might be abusive and dangerous
Last evening on the Unicorn Riot Minneapolis stream the chief of police and some other big cop was at the George Floyd memorial, kneeling and praying and answering questions very amiably and so forth. Then his boys stand on peoples necks all night.
Jesus Christ the NYPD arrested De Blasio's daughter last night and then today tweeted out her unredacted arrest report with her license # and address.
And he's still kissing their asses.
That's what you do when an organized crime group with reach across the entire world threatens your daughter's life.
BdB has been bowing down to the nypd for a while now. Like, it's been noticeably a very odd thing. I've been starting to wonder if they have dirt on him or something, since a normal person would not act like he has been.
They have physical access to his person and firearms. He went from being a lying bootlicker elected on a police reform ticket to a cowed, beaten wretch after they "turned their backs" on him and every single piece of shit in the country said that he better "watch out" without them "protecting" him.
It is almost, ALMOST, funny seeing just how many ways news organization can twist the English language to avoid anything that remotely sounds like cops might be abusive and dangerous
This would be fucking hilarious in a scifi comedy about a ridiculously idiotic dystopian future like Idiocracy.
Seeing it as actual news...
Is there a word for being so angry and depressed for so long that you're too emotionally burnt out to react anymore?
I wonder what David Cage and his crew watch, read, play, what their lives are like, what makes them believe the shit they believe
I mean, I would imagine many people on the crew would say "Yeah, we had the robots use slogans from civil rights protests intentionally. We were making a statement about bigotry in the game, so that made sense to us to draw that connection." And then those same people just baffled or disappointed as Cage claims that the game has no theme like that in it, it's only about robots.
I wonder what David Cage and his crew watch, read, play, what their lives are like, what makes them believe the shit they believe
I mean, I would imagine many people on the crew would say "Yeah, we had the robots use slogans from civil rights protests intentionally. We were making a statement about bigotry in the game, so that made sense to us to draw that connection." And then those same people just baffled or disappointed as Cage claims that the game has no theme like that in it, it's only about robots.
See, the story is like Blade Runner, except that this time the humans are in the wrong.
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https://www.trutv.com/shows/adam-ruins-everything/articles/adam-ruins-cops
It has a ton of sources and links
Without a macro timeline of all the pieces, kinda hard to be firm.
My gut wants to believe in an all powerful oppressor, my brains considers the possibility of a ununified force and competing factions.
Both suck as far as America's future is concerned.
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534
Get a close look at the woman 16 sec mark.
Some men just want to watch the world burn. Some of them wear badges. Some do not.
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534
You're not going to find a lot of concrete information, because, well, proof requires prosecution and prosecution requires arrests. If you want stuff from these recent protests, there's not definitive proof yet that the undercover cops (who are extremely visible, if you just want to find some pictures of them) are actually serving as agent provocateurs.
But a few years back there was an incident where an undercover cop got convicted of coercion (amongst other things) for his role in the assault of a family during a large scale motorcycle ride sort of thing:
https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2015/06/09/motorcycle-melee-verdict/
It’s hard to see but she’s either wearing a badge or like a Columbus Crew t shirt (it’s reported to be a badge, I’m making fun of my own eyesight)
Goes without saying but fuck infowars with a rusty harpoon.
Sadly they did not put them on the outside but accidently made the only answer to what is infowars and Alex Jones
Probably because it would be hard, if not impossible, to get a towing truck through the protests, and the car would probably burn out if left there unattended. Like, I'm not pro cop or anything, but come on. We don't need to play dumb or make shit up, there is an overabundance of instances of cops being garbo without having to resort to that
This is not going to get any better, nor should it until shit changes
that's a very good point, it's definitely strategically useful for them. one more checkmark in the Don't Trust The Fuckin' Cops column
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i know trump is as much a symptom as he is a cause
but good lord I wish america's top leadership was at least competent or had an interest in stopping the suffering of their own citizens
BdB has been bowing down to the nypd for a while now. Like, it's been noticeably a very odd thing. I've been starting to wonder if they have dirt on him or something, since a normal person would not act like he has been.
It is almost, ALMOST, funny seeing just how many ways news organization can twist the English language to avoid anything that remotely sounds like cops might be abusive and dangerous
Like is this character that fucking deluded or is the good PR campaign just that actively mendacious
cops know what their coworkers say and think
Michael Blackstock is a pentester and former Air Traffic Controller.
Again: If your shit stopped working, keep yourself safe.
take as many other cops with you as you can
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They have physical access to his person and firearms. He went from being a lying bootlicker elected on a police reform ticket to a cowed, beaten wretch after they "turned their backs" on him and every single piece of shit in the country said that he better "watch out" without them "protecting" him.
The only thing a cop can do at this point that means anything is quit
The tweet is confusingly phrased, they asked him what he thought of cops calling members of the press "part of the problem, if not the entire problem"
to which he replied that it's totally cool that press is there, and should not be restricted, document everything. Which is not what is happening.
guess i shoulda watched the video, disregard!
dude still should quit though
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This would be fucking hilarious in a scifi comedy about a ridiculously idiotic dystopian future like Idiocracy.
Seeing it as actual news...
Is there a word for being so angry and depressed for so long that you're too emotionally burnt out to react anymore?
The idea very few games said racism is bad is hilarious.
I mean, I would imagine many people on the crew would say "Yeah, we had the robots use slogans from civil rights protests intentionally. We were making a statement about bigotry in the game, so that made sense to us to draw that connection." And then those same people just baffled or disappointed as Cage claims that the game has no theme like that in it, it's only about robots.
their own farts, mainly
See, the story is like Blade Runner, except that this time the humans are in the wrong.
"You don't need to riot, we have voting at home."
Voting at home:
I mean, Bloomberg was running for a bit.