[Magic The Gathering Arena] Damn it Braids, quit Peering into the Abyss!

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  • MugsleyMugsley Registered User regular
    edited June 29
    @Lindsay Lohan do some digging. You get 3 free packs from each recent set with a code. It's usually "play[set name]". Even if you don't use the cards, it's free progress toward wildcards.

    Also the starting decks are pretty decent and there are some YT vids out there with budget tweaks to help the decks succeed a bit more.

    Also it may be worth setting up an account (and the app) on Untapped.gg. It provides some very nice stats on decks if you ever want to check details on how well you are performing.

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    edited June 29
    Before I go too far down this rabbit hole and start playing tutorials - how is Arena in terms of budget? I haven't played Magic for years but was thinking it looked like a nice way to get back into it casually. I was hoping to play some against bots and beginners but not get super into competitive stuff because I just can't spend a massive amount. Can I have fun with this at a minimal cost?

    I have been playing for a year and a half and have spent zero money, so..yes?

    To back this up, I started in the closed beta around the time of Amonkhet and have payed absolutely nothing*.

    *To Arena itself. I still play plenty of paper events and occasionally get codes for free packs from them.

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  • Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    I'm pretty sure at least a couple of the free decks could get you comfortably to plat if climbing the ladder is your thing. And if the free decks won't do it, it's laughably easy with a budget white lifegain deck.

  • MugsleyMugsley Registered User regular
    Dark_Side wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure at least a couple of the free decks could get you comfortably to plat if climbing the ladder is your thing. And if the free decks won't do it, it's laughably easy with a budget white lifegain deck.

    :(

  • WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    You should get an extra pip in ranked if your opponent ropes

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Just report them.
    There needs to be an in-game report button though.

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    Winky wrote: »
    You should get an extra pip in ranked if your opponent ropes

    You can't punish people for their router dropping their connection.

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    edited June 30
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Winky wrote: »
    You should get an extra pip in ranked if your opponent ropes

    You can't punish people for their router dropping their connection.

    Yeah, but you absolutely can punish someone for going 'GG' and then taking the maximum time possible every turn until your inevitable victory.

    I also presume that the player is not going to get kicked out unless they repeat the behaviour and are reported multiple times.

    Well, I presume that they're not going to be banned if they spend money on the game, but that's a bit cynical.

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  • NorgothNorgoth cardiffRegistered User regular
    So, I threw together a b/w control deck to try out Teferi, Master of Time. He seemed really interesting to play around with and after playing a whole bunch with him today, I'm fairly sure he's really something special.

    Having his abilities at instant speed is just pretty crazy. Drawing 2 and discarding 2 is good in a deck that wants to dig for answers is obviously strong (and I was pairing it with the kraken making enchant. Turns out putting three counters at least on each of those a turn is funny as hell) but the phase out, oh boy the phase out.

    Having that ability on tap at instant speed is just such a blowout for some decks. Anything playing with mutations and enchantments folds to it instantly. I've had four maybe five games today where my opponent goes for a big mutate and I phase the target out in response and they time out trying to think around it. I blew one opponent out by phasing out their mutant stack and then following it up with a wrath. Obviously you can pull the same "no target" trick with enchants. This isn't even including the ability to protect himself from essentially any dmg greater than 3 from most creatures, or remove a key blocker to swing for a win (hell two if you have enough counters.)

    He's fun as hell to play with.

  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    edited June 30
    Alseid is the best.
    Can't phase my things Teferi.

    I'm going to miss Kaya's Ghostform though.
    Had one Alseid protect from Teferi's phasing and other Teferi's bouncing last game, so my enchanted dude could still wreck face and win.

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  • MugsleyMugsley Registered User regular
    3feri laughs at Alseid

  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Mugsley wrote: »
    3feri laughs at Alseid

    Why? You sac him to prevent the bounce, and the card draw.

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  • MugsleyMugsley Registered User regular
    No I meant the gold version

  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Mugsley wrote: »
    No I meant the gold version

    I have no idea what you mean.
    3feri tries to bounce, Alseid sacs, ability fizzles, then 1/1 hits 3feri and he dies.
    It's great.

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  • MugsleyMugsley Registered User regular
    edited July 1
    Then Arena doesn't like me because 1WU Teferi is both a blue source and a white source so you need to give your target Prot from multicolored. I've tried it more than once against a gold card and it hasn't worked.

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Yeah, you can protect against blue, and it will protect against UW.

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  • Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    Mugsley wrote: »
    3feri laughs at Alseid

    War of the Spark can't rotate out fast enough, it's going to make the Standard BO1 queue so much better.
    Yeah, but you absolutely can punish someone for going 'GG' and then taking the maximum time possible every turn until your inevitable victory.

    I always have to laugh because the people that rope me, and thankfully it's pretty rare, are always running some 200 card jank deck and suddenly they're all pissy when it doesn't fire. If I can refrain from childishly roping the opponent that drew perfect for their combo, and top decked direct answers to my plays, every time, Mr. 200 cards can chill out and go next.

  • WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Winky wrote: »
    You should get an extra pip in ranked if your opponent ropes

    You can't punish people for their router dropping their connection.

    It wouldn't be punishing them, though, it would be rewarding me for having to put up with them.

  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    edited July 1
    Is there a good anti-boardwipe replacement for Kaya's Ghostform post rotation?
    Just want to protect specific creatures from being removed by something untargeted.

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  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    discrider wrote: »
    Is there a good anti-boardwipe replacement for Kaya's Ghostform post rotation?
    Just want to protect specific creatures from being removed by something untargeted.

    There's Minion's Return in black, but it costs 2B. There's Fight As One in white.

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  • Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    edited July 1
    For black? I can't think any specific, but there's a black enchantment that brings back a dead creature with a +/+ counter, and there's a couple cards let let you dig through your graveyard and bring stuff back. I've been using Fight as One as cheap instant protection in my blue white fliers deck with some success, it really only has value though because everyone in Diamond is spamming hard removal right now. I'm starting to realize it might be a better idea to run blue counterspells instead though..my fliers deck is commonly getting within 1 turn of winning early and then getting wiped before it can finish.

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    edited July 1
    :/
    Give white a phase your creature spell next set please thankyou

    Because yeah, this BW enchantment Lurrus deck has got me to Diamond Rank 3 before running out of time.
    And losing Ghostform will hurt.

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  • Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    edited July 1
    Would Luminous Broodmoth protect against a wipe? Or would it not fire because it dies at the same time as the rest of your creatures? This ruling seems to imply it would fire.
    If Luminous Broodmoth dies at the same time as a creature without flying, its ability triggers for that creature.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Dark_Side wrote: »
    Would Luminous Broodmoth protect against a wipe? Or would it not fire because it dies at the same time as the rest of your creatures? This ruling seems to imply it would fire.
    If Luminous Broodmoth dies at the same time as a creature without flying, its ability triggers for that creature.

    It fires.

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Oh wow. What is this Ugin the Spirit Dragon.
    Now my deck has to either be high cost or aggro fast enough to beat him out (and go first) I guess.

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  • DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    Mugsley wrote: »
    Then Arena doesn't like me because 1WU Teferi is both a blue source and a white source so you need to give your target Prot from multicolored. I've tried it more than once against a gold card and it hasn't worked.

    If it is a card that actually targets (not a sweeper) then yes alseid would work. A gold card is each of its listed colors. If you have protection from one of those colors you have protection from that card. And yes this works in Arena.

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  • DirtmuncherDirtmuncher Registered User regular
    discrider wrote: »
    Oh wow. What is this Ugin the Spirit Dragon.
    Now my deck has to either be high cost or aggro fast enough to beat him out (and go first) I guess.

    Or counter him

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  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    discrider wrote: »
    Oh wow. What is this Ugin the Spirit Dragon.
    Now my deck has to either be high cost or aggro fast enough to beat him out (and go first) I guess.

    Or counter him

    When they start printing white counterspells let me know

    fuck gendered marketing
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  • chamberlainchamberlain Registered User regular
    edited July 1
    I have made a very silly deck that is just deathtouch creatures, the hooded blightfang, Lurrus to bring things back and removal.

    I will not say that it is good but it is certainly fun to play, in a mono-red kind of MUST ATTACK EVERY TURN kind of way.

    Deck:

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    Critiques are welcome. Suggestions from this thread got my rakdos sac deck up to diamond. :)

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  • milskimilski UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ Registered User regular
    Elldren wrote: »
    discrider wrote: »
    Oh wow. What is this Ugin the Spirit Dragon.
    Now my deck has to either be high cost or aggro fast enough to beat him out (and go first) I guess.

    Or counter him

    When they start printing white counterspells let me know

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    13 years ago? :P

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  • milskimilski UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ Registered User regular
    discrider wrote: »
    Is there a good anti-boardwipe replacement for Kaya's Ghostform post rotation?
    Just want to protect specific creatures from being removed by something untargeted.

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    Norgoth wrote: »
    So, I threw together a b/w control deck to try out Teferi, Master of Time. He seemed really interesting to play around with and after playing a whole bunch with him today, I'm fairly sure he's really something special.

    Having his abilities at instant speed is just pretty crazy. Drawing 2 and discarding 2 is good in a deck that wants to dig for answers is obviously strong (and I was pairing it with the kraken making enchant. Turns out putting three counters at least on each of those a turn is funny as hell) but the phase out, oh boy the phase out.

    Having that ability on tap at instant speed is just such a blowout for some decks. Anything playing with mutations and enchantments folds to it instantly. I've had four maybe five games today where my opponent goes for a big mutate and I phase the target out in response and they time out trying to think around it. I blew one opponent out by phasing out their mutant stack and then following it up with a wrath. Obviously you can pull the same "no target" trick with enchants. This isn't even including the ability to protect himself from essentially any dmg greater than 3 from most creatures, or remove a key blocker to swing for a win (hell two if you have enough counters.)

    He's fun as hell to play with.

    Blue is U, not B. Black is B.

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  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    milski wrote: »
    Elldren wrote: »
    discrider wrote: »
    Oh wow. What is this Ugin the Spirit Dragon.
    Now my deck has to either be high cost or aggro fast enough to beat him out (and go first) I guess.

    Or counter him

    When they start printing white counterspells let me know

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    13 years ago? :P

    Exactly

    Unless they reprinted it in M21 and I somehow missed it

    fuck gendered marketing
  • Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    They definitely did not reprint it or I'd have made mythic with my blue white fliers deck last month.

  • DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    I mean the obvious counter to Ugin is to only play permanents that are 8cmc or more

  • InvictusInvictus Registered User regular
    DanHibiki wrote: »
    I mean the obvious counter to Ugin is to only play permanents that are 8cmc or more
    I prefer to just end the game before they can have 8 mana.

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  • milskimilski UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ Registered User regular
    Invictus wrote: »
    DanHibiki wrote: »
    I mean the obvious counter to Ugin is to only play permanents that are 8cmc or more
    I prefer to just end the game before they can have 8 mana.
    DanHibiki wrote: »
    I mean the obvious counter to Ugin is to only play permanents that are 8cmc or more

    The duality of Magic is beautiful

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Invictus wrote: »
    DanHibiki wrote: »
    I mean the obvious counter to Ugin is to only play permanents that are 8cmc or more
    I prefer to just end the game before they can have 8 mana.

    Same, but currently for my deck that means stacking glitters on things and hoping this deck that's doing nothing but playing lands doesn't get a board wipe or a bounce.
    The game that triggered my comment I had the guy down to 3 after playing a bit cautiously.
    And then Ugin on turn 6 or 5.
    And Lurrus is both a horrendous tell for the Ugin player, and can't get stuff back from exile.

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  • VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    edited July 1
    DanHibiki wrote: »
    I mean the obvious counter to Ugin is to only play permanents that are 8cmc or more

    Mono-silver makes him a little unhappy too. EDIT: I guess you could also run, say, Farfinder but that little cutie doesn't combo with Steel Overseer.

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    edited July 1
    :/
    I think I hate M21.
    Another non-interactive ramp/boardwipe deck with Peer into the Abyss (+Dreams) as the wincon.
    weeee

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  • SniperGuySniperGuy Also known as Dohaeris Registered User regular
    discrider wrote: »
    :/
    I think I hate M21.
    Another non-interactive ramp/boardwipe deck with Peer into the Abyss (+Dreams) as the wincon.
    weeee

    >.>

    This sounds like my jam, what's this deck? And does it have ugin in it? It definitely has ugin in it, right?


    (I love Ugin, he was the first card I pulled in a paper draft years ago and I'm so happy he's reprinted)

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