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Black Lives Matter Thread 3: not really about Minneapolis at this point
Alright yall, this shit is still happening, so here's a thread to discuss the ongoing waves of protests in the USA and beyond.
Keep sharing news, throw content warnings up for violence, stay focused on the task a hand. Politics and discussion of heavy shit will happen, so try to mind the forum rules.
Absolutely no theorycrafting about hypothetical Californian secession allowed.
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I'm not sure, poss has been saying continued protests, riots and social unrest will lead us to the promised land for about a week
other folks are pointing out that the black civil rights movement led directly to the law cited in the decision
get justice for one marginalized group, justice for everyone else follows
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Black and Latina trans women. It was a very inclusive rebellion all things considered.
Nice! Didn't know that.
specifically in this case it might have been less because of Stonewall and more incidentally from the black civil rights movement:
since the civil rights bills were absolutely passed because of riots
i think there's something to this. maybe it's not a straight line between large scale protests and the supreme court, but there's definitely historical precedent for oppressed minorities gaining legal protection through property damage
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this is amazing to see
cuomo adding more rules for the nypd to ignore, surely it will work this time
shit like that is gonna make people protest even harder
tracking race data during arrests is inevitably going to be used for further discrimination against minorities
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Correct, there have been several court cases I cannot recall which rulings state that even if someone calls the police, the police have no obligation to help the caller
The protect and serve line is complete bullshit and always had been
this is interesting because the fact that they're doing anything at all is a sure sign that they're scared the protests won't go away on their own, and also these things (with the exception of the last one but it doesn't really matter because it's not like the cops care) are literally worse than nothing and won't mollify basically anyone
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they're not willing to do something yet but they've realized that if this keeps going, they'll have to
and that scares them
It almost certainly will be, but the converse is without tracking it, it can be hard to prove a pattern of discrimination. In Australia we don't know the racial makeup of our prison population because they don't record that data, so if someone says "hey we might have a minority incarceration problem" they just say "prove it" and shrug.
well I think that even knowing that you might still reasonably expect they'd be obligated to take care of people they've arrested
they even use the word "custody", which in other legal contexts does require the person with custody to provide for the physical and mental well-being of their charges
Cuomo:
Then I think these reforms have some chance of doing some real good.
Edit: updating with tweet.
"California's three biggest police unions unveiled a reform plan to root out racist cops."
SJ Inside is a news org.
it is always a good idea to take advice from the enemy
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it really reminded me of a lot of the response to Occupy, like 1) protesters never made any demands, and 2) it is the job of protesters to show up with white papers and powerpoint slides
"You were being effective. Have you tried not being effective?"
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By every indication the cop culture is so thoroughly poisoned that I don't know how you navigate to the other side with current cops staying in a law enforcement capacity.
Being a cop, right now, is entirely disqualifying from being suitable to enforce the law.
Replace all statues with Dolly imo
Yo Dolly Parton rules, she should get a fucking statue.
this is around the boxed statue of Winston Churchill
what on Earth
oh no doubt! i still think harriet tubman should figure in on these somewhere, but i will absolutely take dolly
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