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Rocksteady's [Suicide Squad] and WB Montreal's [Gotham Knights]

Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
edited November 2020 in Games and Technology
Rocksteady comes out of retirement to give us Suicide Squad, a game about killing the Justice League!

https://kotaku.com/official-rocksteady-is-making-a-suicide-squad-game-1844645978




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1p7nWylfNs

WB Montreal meanwhile has been working on Gotham Knights, a game that takes in a new bat-universe, has co-op, several characters and a whole new map to explore on the Batcycle.

https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/22/21376323/gotham-knights-fandome-warner-bros-montreal-batman-game


Wraith260 wrote: »
trailer and gameplay demo for Gotham Knights

https://youtu.be/IhVf_3TeTQE

https://youtu.be/hJjRRErYdO4

and this interesting note, the game is not a direct follow on from Arkham Knight, its an entirely new continuity.


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  • Brainiac 8Brainiac 8 Don't call me Shirley... Registered User regular
    edited August 2020
    I'm already irritated at them making a new Avengers game that is basically a Destiny style Gaas....not really excited for another one. Blech. :(

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  • ArchsorcererArchsorcerer Registered User regular
    edited August 2020
    Why would it be Bizarro? We are being told we are going to kill the Justice League. Perhaps in an Injustice-like universe.

    I expect a Gears of War / Army of Two co-op style of game.

    Want to play ranged? Go Deadshot + Rick Flag.
    Want melee? Play Harley Quinn + Killer Croc.

    Also, skill trees.

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  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    Why would it be Bizarro? We are being told we are going to kill the Justice League. Perhaps in an Injustice-like universe.

    I expect a Gears of War / Army of Two co-op style of game.

    Want to play ranged? Go Deadshot + Rick Flag.
    Want melee? Play Harley Quinn + Killer Croc.

    Also, skill trees.

    Looks more bizarro than supes to me

  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    Looking at it now, I can see it being Supes because the target over his head. But the choice to go with a purple color palette plus his craggly looking face, it still could go either way

    Curious if this will feature the Batman from Arkham

  • ArchsorcererArchsorcerer Registered User regular
    We are probably gonna get enough clones to murder to justify kryptonite bullets and lasers.

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    I have a series of thoughts on this game, which are all inter-related. Needless to say, how I feel about this reveal is complicated.

    -Rocksteady is an amazing game studio, and the Arkham Trilogy are legit some of my most favorite games of all time.
    -Suicide Squad is not on *any* of my own personal lists of intellectual properties I care about. I would say that Suicide Squad falls firmly into "i am extremely indifferent and apathetic about Suicide Squad."
    -I am disappointed that Rocksteady's amazing talent as a studio is being put towards an IP that I am so apathetic about.
    -I know rumors of a Rocksteady SS game have been floating around for months now, so I am definitely not surprised by this announcement.
    -I am, however, disappointed that the rumors turned out to be true.
    -I was secretly holding out hope that Rocksteady's next game would either be on another hero, my own personal picks would have been a Green Arrow game. Or if I really wanted to dream big, a Green Lantern game since GL is my most favorite superhero ever.
    -Additionally, I would have been pleased with a JLA video game made by Rocksteady
    -Without knowing any details at all about the game, including what kind of game it even is, who the playable characters are, what the plot is, or anything else, I am disappointed.
    -There's room in my heart to be won over if it's good enough. I have faith that Rocksteady will deliver a great game no matter what.
    -Even if Rocksteady delivers the greatest Suicide Squad game that could ever conceivably exist, I will still be disappointed that it is not a JLA game, or Green Arrow, or Green Lantern.



    That's pretty much a chronicle of my internal thoughts on this game.

  • ArchsorcererArchsorcerer Registered User regular
    I wonder how much the game will focus on Harley Quinn.

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  • Linespider5Linespider5 ALL HAIL KING KILLMONGER Registered User regular
    I feel like the lack of excitement is probably unfounded. I don’t know what members of the Arkham team that made those games great may have left Rocksteady, but assuming much of the lineup remains, they make very solid, polished games. Suicide Squad may sound unexciting, but that’s only because of the first Suicide Squad movie than anything else. There’s a lot of cool characters to put to use. There’s a ton of potential in the roster, like getting to play as King Shark. It’s no Rocksteady TMNT game, but it’s probably closer to that than you think.

    I mean, it could be a letdown, but I really see no reason to set expectations in that direction just yet.

  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    I feel like they choose Suicide Squad because it plays to their strengths. I don't know if anyone can make a good JL game but we'll see.

  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    John Henry Irons was part of the Suicide Squad for a brief moment. I'm just saying that would be a very good hero to be the cipher for the player and still have some Superman in it, Bizarro am cool villain.

    If they made it like Fire Emblem or Valkyria Chronicles where a character dies and they die (and keeping to the Squad name), that could add some fun strategy and replayability.

  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    -I was secretly holding out hope that Rocksteady's next game would either be on another hero, my own personal picks would have been a Green Arrow game. Or if I really wanted to dream big, a Green Lantern game since GL is my most favorite superhero ever.
    -Additionally, I would have been pleased with a JLA video game made by Rocksteady

    Rumors a couple years back were that they were working on a TMNT game. This is disappointing for me as well.

  • NosfNosf Registered User regular
    I assume the Justice League are infected by whatever and the SS are called in to rein them in. Then Superman just grabs each and everyone and rips them in half and the game is done. Ha, just kidding but no seriously, the only way any of the suicide squad is winning is because the plot demands it. Comics!

  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    That never made any sense, particularly in any versions where the squad was some sort of backup plan against metahumans like Superman. Superman has gone rogue! Who can we get to stop him? Let's start with a guy using a boomerang and go from there.

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  • BurnageBurnage Registered User regular
    That never made any sense, particularly in any versions where the squad was some sort of backup plan against metahumans like Superman. Superman has gone rogue! Who can we get to stop him? Let's start with a guy using a boomerang and go from there.

    I mean, I always figure that a clue about their intended chance of success is in the name...

  • NosfNosf Registered User regular
    edited August 2020
    Deadshot has prep time, apparently. IT WORKS FOR BATMAN!

    edit: Hopefully it's the same model as the Batman games, honestly that style or whatever really just works.

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  • ArchsorcererArchsorcerer Registered User regular
    Captain Boomerang is the signature dirtbag that has managed to save himself from death's grasp many times and is a liked rogue from Flash's comics.

    IIRC he died at some point and his bastard son took his place with Nightwing's Outsiders.

    But reboots happen.

    I think MK's writers modeled Kano after him. Both of them Australians.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDMD8uIMtCA

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  • EspantaPajaroEspantaPajaro Registered User regular
    edited August 2020
    Super hyped until I read live service . Still as long as :

    It’s fun
    Harley doesn’t take over it (I love old Harley but recently she feels forced in everything I see her in)
    It has a coherent plot ( a problem for both dc and marvel as of late but rocksteady can probably deliver)
    And this lasT one is optional But Arkham asylum & city felt like a Batman TAS episode . Would love if they somehow managed to retain that golden age dc animation feeling .

    Then I can be cautiously optimistic.

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  • NosfNosf Registered User regular
    Captain Boomerang is the signature dirtbag that has managed to save himself from death's grasp many times and is a liked rogue from Flash's comics.

    IIRC he died at some point and his bastard son took his place with Nightwing's Outsiders.

    But reboots happen.

    I think MK's writers modeled Kano after him. Both of them Australians.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDMD8uIMtCA

    Holy crap, I must have missed the MK where Kano works behind the till at a gas station, "LIU KANG YOU SONUVABITCH, DO YOU WANT A BURRITO WITH THAT FILLUP?"

  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    Captain Boomerang was also pretty well represented in Arrow.

    I can't help but wonder if the recent surge in Suicide Squad popularity isn't a direct response to how well represented it was in Arrow.

    Basically, in my mind, Arrow comes out in 2012, has a really good run and has some really good coverage of Amanda Waller, Floyd Lawton, Deathstroke, and other members of the squad. The success of the first few seasons of Arrow sparks an idea for them to make a movie, which I didn't think it was terrible, but I also didn't think it was good. It just kind of was. And James Gunn is now making a sequel or something. And anyway, I can't help but wonder if the initial success of Arrow is what has led us to this point where Rocksteady is now putting all of their talent and effort into a Suicide Squad game, where before that it's very likely that a lot of the mainstream hadn't even heard of it.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    I'm excited for gotham knights, I'd like to see more info natch and gameplay but what we got is enough to get my interest

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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  • RickRudeRickRude Registered User regular
    With thr people hating on avengers i await the day for peopple to laugh at dc latest failire

  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    RickRude wrote: »
    With thr people hating on avengers i await the day for peopple to laugh at dc latest failire

    https://youtu.be/HbvYeLxMKN8

    Alt post - Literally none of Rocksteady's games have been bad, and Montreal has a decent record too. I'm more optimistic based on the trailer alone than I was for the original reveal of Diet Avengers 😅

  • Wraith260Wraith260 Happiest Goomba! Registered User regular
    trailer and gameplay demo for Gotham Knights

    https://youtu.be/IhVf_3TeTQE

    https://youtu.be/hJjRRErYdO4

    and this interesting note, the game is not a direct follow on from Arkham Knight, its an entirely new continuity.

  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    Oh snap

  • reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    Prediction: Bruce Wayne is not dead and you play the last section of the game as him.

  • Andy JoeAndy Joe We claim the land for the highlord! The AdirondacksRegistered User regular
    Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League trailer:

    https://youtu.be/V1p7nWylfNs

    2022, next-gen exclusive.

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  • AlphaRomeroAlphaRomero Registered User regular
    Andy Joe wrote: »
    Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League trailer:

    https://youtu.be/V1p7nWylfNs

    2022, next-gen exclusive.

    I'm "assuming" that is not in-engine, but it was in-character funny so they have the tone right. I wonder if this is alternate universe and they go all in on killing the League, or if it plays on the anti-hero stuff and they end up freeing the League and saving the day. Everyone in the trailer plays kind of the same so that would make it easy for character swapping. I just hope it isn't yet another online co-op or GaaS setup.

  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    Did I not call Bizzaro!!

    The purple lasers are a dead giveaway

  • Wraith260Wraith260 Happiest Goomba! Registered User regular
    Did I not call Bizzaro!!

    The purple lasers are a dead giveaway

    i don't think its Bizzaro. looks like Brianiac has him(and the rest of the JL) under mind control.

  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    Wraith260 wrote: »
    Did I not call Bizzaro!!

    The purple lasers are a dead giveaway

    i don't think its Bizzaro. looks like Brianiac has him(and the rest of the JL) under mind control.

    Ohhh, okay now I'm on board. For some reason in the teaser image it looked like his face was messed up, but that's also a likely option

  • AlphaRomeroAlphaRomero Registered User regular
    Also 2022? FFS.

  • -Loki--Loki- Don't pee in my mouth and tell me it's raining. Registered User regular
    The boomerang at the end was so good.

  • Wraith260Wraith260 Happiest Goomba! Registered User regular
    Wraith260 wrote: »
    Did I not call Bizzaro!!

    The purple lasers are a dead giveaway

    i don't think its Bizzaro. looks like Brianiac has him(and the rest of the JL) under mind control.

    Ohhh, okay now I'm on board. For some reason in the teaser image it looked like his face was messed up, but that's also a likely option

    yeah i think they're just going for the old 'vein-y corruption around the eyes' visual shorthand. there's definitely something there, but nothing else about the design suggests that its Bizzaro.

  • reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    Also, Bizarro isn't a member of the Justice League.

  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    reVerse wrote: »
    Also, Bizarro isn't a member of the Justice League.

    ...yet

  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    To be fair (to myself) they've done the 'bizzaro dresses like Superman to ruin his career' thing a thousand times, and his eye lasers are usually purple/blue in contrast to Supes, and finally he often has the same craggly look to his eyes.

    So forgive me for getting excited/ahead of myself, because he's a great character in the right hands

  • bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    edited August 2020
    Andy Joe wrote: »
    Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League trailer:

    https://youtu.be/V1p7nWylfNs

    2022, next-gen exclusive.

    I'm "assuming" that is not in-engine, but it was in-character funny so they have the tone right. I wonder if this is alternate universe and they go all in on killing the League, or if it plays on the anti-hero stuff and they end up freeing the League and saving the day. Everyone in the trailer plays kind of the same so that would make it easy for character swapping. I just hope it isn't yet another online co-op or GaaS setup.

    Sorry friend fact sheet says 4 player co-op third person shooter at all times with bots taking over whom you arent playing if you have less then 4 human

    and this is in the Arkhamverse

    bloodyroarxx on
  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    Why yes I will play another Batman game.

  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    To be clear, which one is in the Arkhamverse? Suicide Squad?

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