AoT definitely improves a lot with the anime adaptation, I must say.
I was noticing the studio transition more this episode with the animation. Not terrible or anything, but some mildly jarring moments of "yep, that's low frame rate CG all right". I do wonder if Mappa is going to try and pull off any sasuga moments like Levi fleeing through the streets in early season 3 and what those will look like
My surely-spicy anime hot take: First Gundam is... very good. Despite the rushed schedule it manages to tell a wonderful story with amazing characters. Also, ya know, wow cool robot!
(I just finished rewatching it after seeing it in the early 2000s. I feel like I appreciate its themes and characters a lot more.)
First Gundam is mostly stand-alone episodes with the real meat of the plot shoved into the last six episodes.
Like, it's extremely watchable but the more complex politics and themes explored in the sequels are only possible by having planned, arching storylines that take place in planned arcs.
That said it does often seem like Gundam series always forget to get their most important thesis statements out there until the last few episodes and then are like "shit let's cram all this stuff in the end." Though that does seem to kind of be an anime thing in general and not something exclusive to Gundam.
First Gundam is mostly stand-alone episodes with the real meat of the plot shoved into the last six episodes.
Like, it's extremely watchable but the more complex politics and themes explored in the sequels are only possible by having planned, arching storylines that take place in planned arcs.
That said it does often seem like Gundam series always forget to get their most important thesis statements out there until the last few episodes and then are like "shit let's cram all this stuff in the end." Though that does seem to kind of be an anime thing in general and not something exclusive to Gundam.
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AoT definitely improves a lot with the anime adaptation, I must say.
I was noticing the studio transition more this episode with the animation. Not terrible or anything, but some mildly jarring moments of "yep, that's low frame rate CG all right". I do wonder if Mappa is going to try and pull off any sasuga moments like Levi fleeing through the streets in early season 3 and what those will look like
They make really slick use of CGI in wide shots and where it’s hard to make out detail, which is good! They use real ass animation for the good shit.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
zeta and ZZ are incontrovertible evidence that the idea they had their plot planned out and paced well and were simply messed up by unexpected cancellation is nonsense
I watched like half of Princess Nine when it was new, wish I could join @Zonugal but that's WoW raid night, like someone said earlier.
Also I randomly checked out Cutie Honey Flash from 1998, and boy does it remind me of early Sailor Moon where she uses the disguise pen constantly. You might be interested! For anyone else that knows Cutie Honey, you probably already immediately know if you'd be interested or not.
I also tried the LBX girls anime that seems like it'd be pretty mediocre, and some old anime nobody probably cares about. And now I'm caught up!
zeta and ZZ are incontrovertible evidence that the idea they had their plot planned out and paced well and were simply messed up by unexpected cancellation is nonsense
Having the plot planned out in advance and having good pacing are two very different things.
Hiccups during production can derail the most meticulously plotted scenario.
zeta and ZZ are incontrovertible evidence that the idea they had their plot planned out and paced well and were simply messed up by unexpected cancellation is nonsense
Having the plot planned out in advance and having good pacing are two very different things.
Hiccups during production can derail the most meticulously plotted scenario.
yeah but all three of those original gundam series are like
"first 4-6 episodes: setting up main story"
"36 episodes of filler adventure"
"last 3-4 episodes: newtypes do crazy superpower things out of nowhere, all plot threads are resolved/killed in a rush"
zeta and ZZ are incontrovertible evidence that the idea they had their plot planned out and paced well and were simply messed up by unexpected cancellation is nonsense
Having the plot planned out in advance and having good pacing are two very different things.
Hiccups during production can derail the most meticulously plotted scenario.
yeah but all three of those original gundam series are like
"first 4-6 episodes: setting up main story"
"36 episodes of filler adventure"
"last 3-4 episodes: newtypes do crazy superpower things out of nowhere, all plot threads are resolved/killed in a rush"
First Gundam is the story of the "One Year War". Describing the progression of that war as "filler adventure" suggests you kind of don't know what you're talking about? Would you describe Legend of Galactic Heroes as 90+ episodes of filler adventure?
first gundam is the least like that of the three, zeta and especially ZZ felt very aimless by comparison to me, but a lot of the battles in OG gundam were absolutely just filler on their way between major plot points
first gundam is the least like that of the three, zeta and especially ZZ felt very aimless by comparison to me, but a lot of the battles in OG gundam were absolutely just filler on their way between major plot points
I'll grant that the specific loadouts of certain encounters (fencing robot in particular stands out here) were clearly designed to sell model kits or toys or whatever was the fashion at that time, but the plot never really grinds to a halt that I remember in particular. They're trying to get to Earth, then to Operation Odessa, then Jaburo, etc.
The middle of Gundam has a bunch of stuff that's really great, such as Rambo Ral, Lieutenant Matilda, a bunch of character development... and admittedly the same transformation sequence 10 episodes in a row.
Zeta Gundam has several story arcs with as much "big picture" things happening in it as the entirety of OG Gundam... and it still has a bunch of episode that drag unnecessarily.
Like, do we really need five different episodes about whether or not Fa can actually cut it as a pilot? (The answer is, yes, she can actually, if Tomino would just let a woman be competent without being evil or doomed for once in his life.)
Honestly an issue with a lot of older Gundam series is that they have too many episodes, resulting in uneven pacing and stutter-step characterization.
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there's issues with the pacing or writing you could talk about in zeta but i wouldn't put the bulk of the episodes being 'aimless' or 'filler' anywhere in that list
the world becomes vastly more complicated in stepping from 0079 to zeta, with sweeping changes for the original cast and many moving parts in the plot, and the story moves almost blisteringly fast from episode to episode
I'm only halfway through ep 1 of Wonder Egg Priority and this show is ba na nas
Also the color palette and animation is just lovely, it looks fantastic, someone's spending money on this show. It feels kinda like a darker version of Flip Flappers?
Also it is uh, soo many trigger warnings!
- main character is a high school (middle school?) dropout who was already a bullying victim and then her best friend committed suicide
- There's a very flirty vibe between her and her friend that makes me suspect her friend may have been outed and bullied, and that's what resulted in her suicide. Especially considering the main character's deep sense of guilt and grief.
- she's traveling around in a weird dream world with other fellow dreamers who, it is implied, are all either other suicide victims or people who are totally alone?
- if you get hurt in the dream world you get hurt in real life, and ep 1 ends with the main girl passing out stabbed, and her mom crying over her in the hospital
Despite that list of horrors the show doesn't really feel edgelordy, but I am a bit worried it's gonna get Too Anime for how dark and psychological it is. But I'm definitely gonna be watching ep 2
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I'm reading a manga called My Wife Has No Emotions about a guy who buys a cooking robot and falls in love with her
its cute
the way the robots in the setting are written is kind of like Questionable Content only i dont hate them
spoiler: it turns out the robot wife can have emotions
Been reading this for a while, and it's quite funny, in a deadpan, deliberately uncomfortable way. Like they make no bones about how robotic she is; made of hard metal, very limited ability to emote, specialized in cooking and kind of poor at other things. It's interesting.
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I was noticing the studio transition more this episode with the animation. Not terrible or anything, but some mildly jarring moments of "yep, that's low frame rate CG all right". I do wonder if Mappa is going to try and pull off any sasuga moments like Levi fleeing through the streets in early season 3 and what those will look like
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(I just finished rewatching it after seeing it in the early 2000s. I feel like I appreciate its themes and characters a lot more.)
Like, it's extremely watchable but the more complex politics and themes explored in the sequels are only possible by having planned, arching storylines that take place in planned arcs.
That said it does often seem like Gundam series always forget to get their most important thesis statements out there until the last few episodes and then are like "shit let's cram all this stuff in the end." Though that does seem to kind of be an anime thing in general and not something exclusive to Gundam.
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gundam does it harder than most I find
They make really slick use of CGI in wide shots and where it’s hard to make out detail, which is good! They use real ass animation for the good shit.
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Also I randomly checked out Cutie Honey Flash from 1998, and boy does it remind me of early Sailor Moon where she uses the disguise pen constantly. You might be interested! For anyone else that knows Cutie Honey, you probably already immediately know if you'd be interested or not.
I also tried the LBX girls anime that seems like it'd be pretty mediocre, and some old anime nobody probably cares about. And now I'm caught up!
Having the plot planned out in advance and having good pacing are two very different things.
Hiccups during production can derail the most meticulously plotted scenario.
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yeah but all three of those original gundam series are like
"first 4-6 episodes: setting up main story"
"36 episodes of filler adventure"
"last 3-4 episodes: newtypes do crazy superpower things out of nowhere, all plot threads are resolved/killed in a rush"
How long did it take for a Gundam show aired on TV to not have a robot fight every episode?
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are you calling ramba fucking ral filler
First Gundam is the story of the "One Year War". Describing the progression of that war as "filler adventure" suggests you kind of don't know what you're talking about? Would you describe Legend of Galactic Heroes as 90+ episodes of filler adventure?
I'll grant that the specific loadouts of certain encounters (fencing robot in particular stands out here) were clearly designed to sell model kits or toys or whatever was the fashion at that time, but the plot never really grinds to a halt that I remember in particular. They're trying to get to Earth, then to Operation Odessa, then Jaburo, etc.
Like, do we really need five different episodes about whether or not Fa can actually cut it as a pilot? (The answer is, yes, she can actually, if Tomino would just let a woman be competent without being evil or doomed for once in his life.)
Honestly an issue with a lot of older Gundam series is that they have too many episodes, resulting in uneven pacing and stutter-step characterization.
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the world becomes vastly more complicated in stepping from 0079 to zeta, with sweeping changes for the original cast and many moving parts in the plot, and the story moves almost blisteringly fast from episode to episode
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Also the color palette and animation is just lovely, it looks fantastic, someone's spending money on this show. It feels kinda like a darker version of Flip Flappers?
Also it is uh, soo many trigger warnings!
- There's a very flirty vibe between her and her friend that makes me suspect her friend may have been outed and bullied, and that's what resulted in her suicide. Especially considering the main character's deep sense of guilt and grief.
- she's traveling around in a weird dream world with other fellow dreamers who, it is implied, are all either other suicide victims or people who are totally alone?
- if you get hurt in the dream world you get hurt in real life, and ep 1 ends with the main girl passing out stabbed, and her mom crying over her in the hospital
Despite that list of horrors the show doesn't really feel edgelordy, but I am a bit worried it's gonna get Too Anime for how dark and psychological it is. But I'm definitely gonna be watching ep 2
"Surely this is an exaggeration" I thought after reading this post, leading to me looking up the trailer and being surprised it was entirely accurate
Like I said almost exactly this a few days ago and am still amazed anyone okayed this for production
its cute
the way the robots in the setting are written is kind of like Questionable Content only i dont hate them
Evangelion is the most Lovecraftian thing I ever fucking saw.
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nope, nowhere near enough racism
Been reading this for a while, and it's quite funny, in a deadpan, deliberately uncomfortable way. Like they make no bones about how robotic she is; made of hard metal, very limited ability to emote, specialized in cooking and kind of poor at other things. It's interesting.
The comedy is on point.
The seiyuus* share their thoughts about the episode
*voice actors
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It was either going to be Wednesday or Thursday night and I was already watching anime on Thursday evenings, so that won out...