Definitely not going to dive into the comments on that. You just know it is full of boomers claiming they survived their childhoods by scrumping apples and that would have been a luxury 50 years ago.
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It's an entirely moot point for me since Labour made themselves politically irrelevant in Scotland, but for what it's worth if I were in England this wouldn't be enough to stop me voting for a Labour candidate. I disagree with it, and it would make me even more resentful of having to vote for them than I already am but this is just the state of UK politics. If Corbyns Labour should teach us one lesson over all it's the importance of not letting perfect be the enemy of the least worst option.
Labour suck. They are not a good or particularly competent political party, but if you're waiting for someone to come along who agrees with you on every single issue of importance and can immediately sweep up 51% of the electorate... you'll be waiting a very long time. Politics is a slow march, immediate seismic change almost never happens and when it does it's more often than not for the worse. You vote for the people who can make things a little bit better, and you keep doing it every time until one day, if you're lucky, your grandkids get to grow up in the world you wish you had.
Starmer is pretty screwed no matter what he does since he seems to need both Brexit and Rejoin voters in order to get the seats needed to form a government, at least as far as I can tell that's the case. I think his current position though leans a bit too far as far as playing towards the Brexit side. The deal is the deal and we'll have to deal with that deal in 2024 seems a bit too passive or defeatist for my tastes. Maybe put in something about working to improve the deal or nibble around the edges? At least talk about getting back into some of the EU programs like Erasmus or something? Throw the Rejoiners a little bit of a bone. Plus there's the dubiousness that for Starmer's position to work, the Brexit types have to take him literally, while the Rejoiners need to assume that he's prevaricating a bit and is really on their side but just can't say it.
I think the idea that people, Rejoiners that is, will take a look at the situation and automatically recognize that Labour is the only option for eventually rejoining the EU and behave and vote accordingly is optimistic at best. I'm not sure what the Greens and Lib-Dems are up to exactly, but they're still around and it's FPTP, so they're a potential vote sink.
Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
Not sure if it's nationally or just in Nottingham but Wetherspoons have been putting up "articles" from their newsletter in the windows of the pubs.
Apparently they talk about an alternate way to deal with Covid, what ever the fuck that is. Obviously Tim Martin would rather everyone go to the pub and die.
Fortunately they've all been spray painted over from the outside. One pub had "70,000" dead sprayed on it.
Not that I drank in Wetherspoons but this is yet another reason not to.
People have crunched the numbers and estimate that the food supplies at retail prices come out at around £5 - so people relying on free school meals are £25 worse off
So a ton of carbs with some fruit and veg to make it seem healthier than it is?
I guess less than a slice of cheese and a spoonful of beans is all the protein content a growing child needs.
People have crunched the numbers and estimate that the food supplies at retail prices come out at around £5 - so people relying on free school meals are £25 worse off
So a ton of carbs with some fruit and veg to make it seem healthier than it is?
I guess less than a slice of cheese and a spoonful of beans is all the protein content a growing child needs.
That's not even a ton of carbs. Plus I guess there's fruit and vegetables for ten days if you cut everything in half and generously count potatoes as vegetables.
The more I look at that picture, the angrier I get about it. It's just so.... cartoonishly evil. Like the next step would be to bundle in a copy of To Serve Man.
What a bunch of assholes.
Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
21 slices of bread, 8 slices of cheese and a can of beans gives you 8 cheese sandwiches and 2 portions of beans on toast. You can use one of those presliced bread ends as a snack if it doesn't go moldy by the end.
I guess the pasta + tomato + carrot would make 1 meal.
2 potatoes for 2 portions of chips?
The rest is just snacks, there's no way that a single apple or a single banana would count as a meal in itself.
Generously, that is 13 shitty meals for 10 days.
FFS, even if you count the remaining items individually, you wouldn't reach the healthy number of 30 meals needed for the time period.
In no way is that ten days worth of food. Two/three I would say (and three would be pushing it).
Apparently the package is only meant to cover lunches for ten days, in which case even "eight shitty cheese sandwiches and two jacket potatoes" falls straight under the malicious compliance category.
You guys are missing the big picture. If you take the seeds from those apples, plant them, eventually you have apple trees, and use the seeds from the tomatoes, plus cut off a slice of the potatoes and carrots and put them in a pot of compost. Bam. That is clearly an infinite supply of food there. And if you happen to live with Jesus, that loaf is gonna go far.
You guys are missing the big picture. If you take the seeds from those apples, plant them, eventually you have apple trees, and use the seeds from the tomatoes, plus cut off a slice of the potatoes and carrots and put them in a pot of compost. Bam. That is clearly an infinite supply of food there. And if you happen to live with Jesus, that loaf is gonna go far.
It takes up to 10 years for apples to start bearing fruit, and they'd be crabapples. How long is lockdown going to last!?
In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phony god’s blessing. But because, I am enlightened by my intelligence.
It's an entirely moot point for me since Labour made themselves politically irrelevant in Scotland, but for what it's worth if I were in England this wouldn't be enough to stop me voting for a Labour candidate. I disagree with it, and it would make me even more resentful of having to vote for them than I already am but this is just the state of UK politics. If Corbyns Labour should teach us one lesson over all it's the importance of not letting perfect be the enemy of the least worst option.
Labour suck. They are not a good or particularly competent political party, but if you're waiting for someone to come along who agrees with you on every single issue of importance and can immediately sweep up 51% of the electorate... you'll be waiting a very long time. Politics is a slow march, immediate seismic change almost never happens and when it does it's more often than not for the worse. You vote for the people who can make things a little bit better, and you keep doing it every time until one day, if you're lucky, your grandkids get to grow up in the world you wish you had.
Starmer is pretty screwed no matter what he does since he seems to need both Brexit and Rejoin voters in order to get the seats needed to form a government, at least as far as I can tell that's the case. I think his current position though leans a bit too far as far as playing towards the Brexit side. The deal is the deal and we'll have to deal with that deal in 2024 seems a bit too passive or defeatist for my tastes. Maybe put in something about working to improve the deal or nibble around the edges? At least talk about getting back into some of the EU programs like Erasmus or something? Throw the Rejoiners a little bit of a bone. Plus there's the dubiousness that for Starmer's position to work, the Brexit types have to take him literally, while the Rejoiners need to assume that he's prevaricating a bit and is really on their side but just can't say it.
I think the idea that people, Rejoiners that is, will take a look at the situation and automatically recognize that Labour is the only option for eventually rejoining the EU and behave and vote accordingly is optimistic at best. I'm not sure what the Greens and Lib-Dems are up to exactly, but they're still around and it's FPTP, so they're a potential vote sink.
Oh I agree. My philosophy of "vote every time for the least worst no matter what" is not shared by the majority of the electorate. This is doubly true of left wing voters who will absolutely let the other side win if they feel their side isn't representing them as much as they'd like. Starmer has slammed the door in the face in the face of the pro Europe crowd and a significant number of them are going to go elsewhere in the next election or more likely not vote at all. Whatever he thinks he's gaining by jumping on the brexit bus after its already driven over the cliff is going to be counter balanced by the people it turns away. But that's been Labours brexit dilemma from day one.
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In addition to everything that Jack and all the posters in this thread have said about those food kits another thing I want to point out is just the utter lack of forethought in their composition. It would be an incredibly easy thing to make a standard meal kit, like here's ten sandwich components, here's five sets of pasta salad ingredients ect ect. Instead it's just some bread and random essentials with no thought given to how these things could be meaningfully combined to make the most of individual items.
For less than a fiver you could make five servings of tomato pasta with some veg and a side of bread and butter, but they haven't done that. They just picked random shit and chucked it in a box like someone designed an algorithm to pick food that poor people eat. Utterly disgraceful.
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It's an entirely moot point for me since Labour made themselves politically irrelevant in Scotland, but for what it's worth if I were in England this wouldn't be enough to stop me voting for a Labour candidate. I disagree with it, and it would make me even more resentful of having to vote for them than I already am but this is just the state of UK politics. If Corbyns Labour should teach us one lesson over all it's the importance of not letting perfect be the enemy of the least worst option.
Labour suck. They are not a good or particularly competent political party, but if you're waiting for someone to come along who agrees with you on every single issue of importance and can immediately sweep up 51% of the electorate... you'll be waiting a very long time. Politics is a slow march, immediate seismic change almost never happens and when it does it's more often than not for the worse. You vote for the people who can make things a little bit better, and you keep doing it every time until one day, if you're lucky, your grandkids get to grow up in the world you wish you had.
Starmer is pretty screwed no matter what he does since he seems to need both Brexit and Rejoin voters in order to get the seats needed to form a government, at least as far as I can tell that's the case. I think his current position though leans a bit too far as far as playing towards the Brexit side. The deal is the deal and we'll have to deal with that deal in 2024 seems a bit too passive or defeatist for my tastes. Maybe put in something about working to improve the deal or nibble around the edges? At least talk about getting back into some of the EU programs like Erasmus or something? Throw the Rejoiners a little bit of a bone. Plus there's the dubiousness that for Starmer's position to work, the Brexit types have to take him literally, while the Rejoiners need to assume that he's prevaricating a bit and is really on their side but just can't say it.
I think the idea that people, Rejoiners that is, will take a look at the situation and automatically recognize that Labour is the only option for eventually rejoining the EU and behave and vote accordingly is optimistic at best. I'm not sure what the Greens and Lib-Dems are up to exactly, but they're still around and it's FPTP, so they're a potential vote sink.
Oh I agree. My philosophy of "vote every time for the least worst no matter what" is not shared by the majority of the electorate. This is doubly true of left wing voters who will absolutely let the other side win if they feel their side isn't representing them as much as they'd like. Starmer has slammed the door in the face in the face of the pro Europe crowd and a significant number of them are going to go elsewhere in the next election or more likely not vote at all. Whatever he thinks he's gaining by jumping on the brexit bus after its already driven over the cliff is going to be counter balanced by the people it turns away. But that's been Labours brexit dilemma from day one.
What I'm interested in are all the younger voters, including those who weren't even old enough to vote in the referendum, and how many of them will be willing to stick around in the hopes of dragging the UK back into the EU sometime in the next decade or so. I'm not sure it will be enough to swing an election, but I think it will be a pretty nasty braindrain. They'll be looking at four years of Brexit recession and Tory austerity before they'll have a chance to do anything about it. A 'do anything' that at this point very specifically does not seem to include getting closer to Europe. That's not great motivation to stick it out.
Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
In addition to everything that Jack and all the posters in this thread have said about those food kits another thing I want to point out is just the utter lack of forethought in their composition. It would be an incredibly easy thing to make a standard meal kit, like here's ten sandwich components, here's five sets of pasta salad ingredients ect ect. Instead it's just some bread and random essentials with no thought given to how these things could be meaningfully combined to make the most of individual items.
For less than a fiver you could make five servings of tomato pasta with some veg and a side of bread and butter, but they haven't done that. They just picked random shit and chucked it in a box like someone designed an algorithm to pick food that poor people eat. Utterly disgraceful.
Like, what is that bloody pair of carrots there for? And why are the bananas even included if they are in such terrible condition. I’m pretty sure for 30 GBP you could just buy 10 dairylee lunchables, 10 apples and there you go. Not exactly healthy or inspiring but at least it’s 10 days worth of lunch for a child.
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Honestly that's the state of most bananas I see right now. Can't possibly imagine why.
Deliverable second hand bananas are never going to look good because bananas don’t store well. Once you add a second supply chain onto the already very tight schedule bananas have they’re really shit. And you have the storage requirements (the whole box is probably assembled then fridged) which break the banana down even faster.
It's an entirely moot point for me since Labour made themselves politically irrelevant in Scotland, but for what it's worth if I were in England this wouldn't be enough to stop me voting for a Labour candidate. I disagree with it, and it would make me even more resentful of having to vote for them than I already am but this is just the state of UK politics. If Corbyns Labour should teach us one lesson over all it's the importance of not letting perfect be the enemy of the least worst option.
Labour suck. They are not a good or particularly competent political party, but if you're waiting for someone to come along who agrees with you on every single issue of importance and can immediately sweep up 51% of the electorate... you'll be waiting a very long time. Politics is a slow march, immediate seismic change almost never happens and when it does it's more often than not for the worse. You vote for the people who can make things a little bit better, and you keep doing it every time until one day, if you're lucky, your grandkids get to grow up in the world you wish you had.
Starmer is pretty screwed no matter what he does since he seems to need both Brexit and Rejoin voters in order to get the seats needed to form a government, at least as far as I can tell that's the case. I think his current position though leans a bit too far as far as playing towards the Brexit side. The deal is the deal and we'll have to deal with that deal in 2024 seems a bit too passive or defeatist for my tastes. Maybe put in something about working to improve the deal or nibble around the edges? At least talk about getting back into some of the EU programs like Erasmus or something? Throw the Rejoiners a little bit of a bone. Plus there's the dubiousness that for Starmer's position to work, the Brexit types have to take him literally, while the Rejoiners need to assume that he's prevaricating a bit and is really on their side but just can't say it.
I think the idea that people, Rejoiners that is, will take a look at the situation and automatically recognize that Labour is the only option for eventually rejoining the EU and behave and vote accordingly is optimistic at best. I'm not sure what the Greens and Lib-Dems are up to exactly, but they're still around and it's FPTP, so they're a potential vote sink.
Oh I agree. My philosophy of "vote every time for the least worst no matter what" is not shared by the majority of the electorate. This is doubly true of left wing voters who will absolutely let the other side win if they feel their side isn't representing them as much as they'd like. Starmer has slammed the door in the face in the face of the pro Europe crowd and a significant number of them are going to go elsewhere in the next election or more likely not vote at all. Whatever he thinks he's gaining by jumping on the brexit bus after its already driven over the cliff is going to be counter balanced by the people it turns away. But that's been Labours brexit dilemma from day one.
What I'm interested in are all the younger voters, including those who weren't even old enough to vote in the referendum, and how many of them will be willing to stick around in the hopes of dragging the UK back into the EU sometime in the next decade or so. I'm not sure it will be enough to swing an election, but I think it will be a pretty nasty braindrain. They'll be looking at four years of Brexit recession and Tory austerity before they'll have a chance to do anything about it. A 'do anything' that at this point very specifically does not seem to include getting closer to Europe. That's not great motivation to stick it out.
History tells us that disenchanted young voters will simply not turn up on voting day.
Grind the loaf down, mix it with water, and you've got yourself a sourdough starter
Infinite bread!
Someone should juxtapose this against the simply incalculable amount of waste that has happened since 'making my own sourdough' became a thing during the lockdown (like, moreso than those dedicated souls who did it prior).
I watched a few of those vids, and it's like "start with 20 pounds of flour. Throw out 19 pounds of it over the course of the next month or two. Congrats, you can now turn that starter into some bread, assuming you didn't mess it up along the way."
I'm sure there are industrial level applications that make sense, but the amount of waste involved in the whole process was a little sickening when scaled down to an individual level.
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Grind the loaf down, mix it with water, and you've got yourself a sourdough starter
Infinite bread!
Someone should juxtapose this against the simply incalculable amount of waste that has happened since 'making my own sourdough' became a thing during the lockdown (like, moreso than those dedicated souls who did it prior).
I watched a few of those vids, and it's like "start with 20 pounds of flour. Throw out 19 pounds of it over the course of the next month or two. Congrats, you can now turn that starter into some bread, assuming you didn't mess it up along the way."
I'm sure there are industrial level applications that make sense, but the amount of waste involved in the whole process was a little sickening when scaled down to an individual level.
There's so many good bread recipies, I don't know why everyone got fixated on sourdough. Pan bread tastes great and just needs suet and baking powder.
In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phony god’s blessing. But because, I am enlightened by my intelligence.
Deliverable second hand bananas are never going to look good because bananas don’t store well. Once you add a second supply chain onto the already very tight schedule bananas have they’re really shit. And you have the storage requirements (the whole box is probably assembled then fridged) which break the banana down even faster.
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Starmer is pretty screwed no matter what he does since he seems to need both Brexit and Rejoin voters in order to get the seats needed to form a government, at least as far as I can tell that's the case. I think his current position though leans a bit too far as far as playing towards the Brexit side. The deal is the deal and we'll have to deal with that deal in 2024 seems a bit too passive or defeatist for my tastes. Maybe put in something about working to improve the deal or nibble around the edges? At least talk about getting back into some of the EU programs like Erasmus or something? Throw the Rejoiners a little bit of a bone. Plus there's the dubiousness that for Starmer's position to work, the Brexit types have to take him literally, while the Rejoiners need to assume that he's prevaricating a bit and is really on their side but just can't say it.
I think the idea that people, Rejoiners that is, will take a look at the situation and automatically recognize that Labour is the only option for eventually rejoining the EU and behave and vote accordingly is optimistic at best. I'm not sure what the Greens and Lib-Dems are up to exactly, but they're still around and it's FPTP, so they're a potential vote sink.
30 pounds?? Someone is keeping all the "overhead" money for themselves here.
If you buy bulk, 30 pounds can get you a lot more food.
She's also well known for winning a libel case against Katie Hopkins.
Apparently they talk about an alternate way to deal with Covid, what ever the fuck that is. Obviously Tim Martin would rather everyone go to the pub and die.
Fortunately they've all been spray painted over from the outside. One pub had "70,000" dead sprayed on it.
Not that I drank in Wetherspoons but this is yet another reason not to.
So a ton of carbs with some fruit and veg to make it seem healthier than it is?
I guess less than a slice of cheese and a spoonful of beans is all the protein content a growing child needs.
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It's two bananas, how much could it cost? £20?
Actually that'd make the basket a lot more reasonable.
That's not even a ton of carbs. Plus I guess there's fruit and vegetables for ten days if you cut everything in half and generously count potatoes as vegetables.
The more I look at that picture, the angrier I get about it. It's just so.... cartoonishly evil. Like the next step would be to bundle in a copy of To Serve Man.
What a bunch of assholes.
I guess the pasta + tomato + carrot would make 1 meal.
2 potatoes for 2 portions of chips?
The rest is just snacks, there's no way that a single apple or a single banana would count as a meal in itself.
Generously, that is 13 shitty meals for 10 days.
FFS, even if you count the remaining items individually, you wouldn't reach the healthy number of 30 meals needed for the time period.
Apparently the package is only meant to cover lunches for ten days, in which case even "eight shitty cheese sandwiches and two jacket potatoes" falls straight under the malicious compliance category.
That package is just infuriating.
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Stupid Rashford, making me think that football isn't entirely pointless
Infinite bread!
It takes up to 10 years for apples to start bearing fruit, and they'd be crabapples. How long is lockdown going to last!?
Oh I agree. My philosophy of "vote every time for the least worst no matter what" is not shared by the majority of the electorate. This is doubly true of left wing voters who will absolutely let the other side win if they feel their side isn't representing them as much as they'd like. Starmer has slammed the door in the face in the face of the pro Europe crowd and a significant number of them are going to go elsewhere in the next election or more likely not vote at all. Whatever he thinks he's gaining by jumping on the brexit bus after its already driven over the cliff is going to be counter balanced by the people it turns away. But that's been Labours brexit dilemma from day one.
Honestly at this point it's like the rich are actively trying to get eaten
For less than a fiver you could make five servings of tomato pasta with some veg and a side of bread and butter, but they haven't done that. They just picked random shit and chucked it in a box like someone designed an algorithm to pick food that poor people eat. Utterly disgraceful.
What I'm interested in are all the younger voters, including those who weren't even old enough to vote in the referendum, and how many of them will be willing to stick around in the hopes of dragging the UK back into the EU sometime in the next decade or so. I'm not sure it will be enough to swing an election, but I think it will be a pretty nasty braindrain. They'll be looking at four years of Brexit recession and Tory austerity before they'll have a chance to do anything about it. A 'do anything' that at this point very specifically does not seem to include getting closer to Europe. That's not great motivation to stick it out.
Like, what is that bloody pair of carrots there for? And why are the bananas even included if they are in such terrible condition. I’m pretty sure for 30 GBP you could just buy 10 dairylee lunchables, 10 apples and there you go. Not exactly healthy or inspiring but at least it’s 10 days worth of lunch for a child.
Filling? Yes
Cheap? Yes
Nutritious? Yes, there are nutrients in them
The amount of effort that's gone in to making the boxes an edible insult is incredible
You're talking about them having a right proper curve, none of that EU straight banana garbage, right?
What do you mean you don't have flour, milk, vanilla extract, oil, baking soda, sugar, salt, or a loaf pan?
History tells us that disenchanted young voters will simply not turn up on voting day.
Someone should juxtapose this against the simply incalculable amount of waste that has happened since 'making my own sourdough' became a thing during the lockdown (like, moreso than those dedicated souls who did it prior).
I watched a few of those vids, and it's like "start with 20 pounds of flour. Throw out 19 pounds of it over the course of the next month or two. Congrats, you can now turn that starter into some bread, assuming you didn't mess it up along the way."
I'm sure there are industrial level applications that make sense, but the amount of waste involved in the whole process was a little sickening when scaled down to an individual level.
If you aren't adding sweet cinnamon to that I don't know what to tell you.
There's so many good bread recipies, I don't know why everyone got fixated on sourdough. Pan bread tastes great and just needs suet and baking powder.
Cinnamon? In this country the ruling classes don't let the plebs have things like cinnamon.
The spice must flow!
Bananas are a garbage fruit.
(Except in banana bread form.)