If I’ve never installed a shelf before and don’t have many tools (just a stud finder, level, drill, tape measure etc) is it accurate that I should be looking at a bracketed shelf rather than a floating shelf?
It probably doesn't make a difference
Floating shelves have a different style of bracket that is hidden inside the body of the shelf when it's all assembled, but for either type you're essentially drilling the wall, inserting the appropriate fixing, attaching the bracket to the wall, then the shelf to the bracket. You don't need any special tools for a floating shelf.
Ahh I just watched a tutorial on a floating shelf and it involves making your own sort of integral wooden bracket. I see now that this was ambitious.
Assuming this would be low weight bearing (certainly under 20lbs) does it just come down to aesthetics??
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If I’ve never installed a shelf before and don’t have many tools (just a stud finder, level, drill, tape measure etc) is it accurate that I should be looking at a bracketed shelf rather than a floating shelf?
It probably doesn't make a difference
Floating shelves have a different style of bracket that is hidden inside the body of the shelf when it's all assembled, but for either type you're essentially drilling the wall, inserting the appropriate fixing, attaching the bracket to the wall, then the shelf to the bracket. You don't need any special tools for a floating shelf.
Ahh I just watched a tutorial on a floating shelf and it involves making your own sort of integral wooden bracket. I see now that this was ambitious.
Assuming this would be low weight bearing (certainly under 20lbs) does it just come down to aesthetics??
Yep
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If I’ve never installed a shelf before and don’t have many tools (just a stud finder, level, drill, tape measure etc) is it accurate that I should be looking at a bracketed shelf rather than a floating shelf?
It probably doesn't make a difference
Floating shelves have a different style of bracket that is hidden inside the body of the shelf when it's all assembled, but for either type you're essentially drilling the wall, inserting the appropriate fixing, attaching the bracket to the wall, then the shelf to the bracket. You don't need any special tools for a floating shelf.
Ahh I just watched a tutorial on a floating shelf and it involves making your own sort of integral wooden bracket. I see now that this was ambitious.
Assuming this would be low weight bearing (certainly under 20lbs) does it just come down to aesthetics??
Most floating shelves I've seen come with their own bracket, as opposed to having to make one, see example for Ikea's: https://youtube.com/watch?v=oDjIJLPy1Ug
The bracket is attached to the wall, then the shelf slides onto it
Half the internet tells me that you must install into wall studs or your stuff will 100% fall. The other half says those people are dramatic olds and anchors work fine for most loads
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Half the internet tells me that you must install into wall studs or your stuff will 100% fall. The other half says those people are dramatic olds and anchors work fine for most loads
Please guide my hands
Just glue it
Homogeneous distribution of your varieties of amuse-gueule
Half the internet tells me that you must install into wall studs or your stuff will 100% fall. The other half says those people are dramatic olds and anchors work fine for most loads
Half the internet tells me that you must install into wall studs or your stuff will 100% fall. The other half says those people are dramatic olds and anchors work fine for most loads
Please guide my hands
Kinda depends on your walls and how much weight you would want to put on the shelves. Even if you go for a shelf where you see the support structure you need to be mindful of that.
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Half the internet tells me that you must install into wall studs or your stuff will 100% fall. The other half says those people are dramatic olds and anchors work fine for most loads
Please guide my hands
Just glue it
What if he glues them to his hands
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Homogeneous distribution of your varieties of amuse-gueule
don't get plastic-edged particleboard shelves though - the frequent bumping on the corners means that it looks worn very quickly. I have some such shelves and they don't look great. Ikea sells a more expensive one in aspen (TRANHULT)
Half the internet tells me that you must install into wall studs or your stuff will 100% fall. The other half says those people are dramatic olds and anchors work fine for most loads
Please guide my hands
Studs are easier, anchors are fine. People say this because you can make a fixing into studs strong enough that you get a a shelf that it's more or less impossible to overload unless you're using it to display your cannonball collection. Anchors are not as strong when you compare single fixing points but you can offset that by using more of them if you need to.
The particular anchor you use will depend on the construction of the wall. Generally wall fixings that come with a shelf are not good or are unsuitable and buying the correct fixings and using them instead makes a huge difference.
The anchors you buy should have a guide weight rating, these are additive, so in principle 3x5kg anchors gives you a total weight of 15kg. The limiting factors are that at some point you overwhelm the strength of the drywall itself, and you can't place anchors too close together because doing so creates weak spots.
A good rule of thumb for weight rating is that 1 metre of books arranged on a shelf can weigh about 20-25kg, which gives a reasonable upper limit for the amount of weight any given shelf is ever likely to need to hold. If the shelf can take that with a reasonable margin then it's probably strong enough
Last note: floating shelves are by definition not as strong as bracketed shelves, because anything you place on them is going to try to lever the fixing out of the wall. Do not fill a floating shelf with books, regardless of fixing type.
Half the internet tells me that you must install into wall studs or your stuff will 100% fall. The other half says those people are dramatic olds and anchors work fine for most loads
Please guide my hands
Just glue it
You can actually get away with this
My parent's kitchen has a set of small shelves filling a gap where the brackets are fixed to the tile with generic grab adhesive (similar to "no more nails")
They've stayed up fine, but crucially they don't hold anything heavy
Half the internet tells me that you must install into wall studs or your stuff will 100% fall. The other half says those people are dramatic olds and anchors work fine for most loads
Please guide my hands
Just glue it
You can actually get away with this
My parent's kitchen has a set of small shelves filling a gap where the brackets are fixed to the tile with generic grab adhesive (similar to "no more nails")
They've stayed up fine, but crucially they don't hold anything heavy
Glue is actually incredibly strong, the problem is people are generally gluing to paint.
Half the internet tells me that you must install into wall studs or your stuff will 100% fall. The other half says those people are dramatic olds and anchors work fine for most loads
Please guide my hands
Just glue it
You can actually get away with this
My parent's kitchen has a set of small shelves filling a gap where the brackets are fixed to the tile with generic grab adhesive (similar to "no more nails")
They've stayed up fine, but crucially they don't hold anything heavy
I've had zero success with no more nails holding its own weight to anything
Homogeneous distribution of your varieties of amuse-gueule
Half the internet tells me that you must install into wall studs or your stuff will 100% fall. The other half says those people are dramatic olds and anchors work fine for most loads
Please guide my hands
Just glue it
You can actually get away with this
My parent's kitchen has a set of small shelves filling a gap where the brackets are fixed to the tile with generic grab adhesive (similar to "no more nails")
They've stayed up fine, but crucially they don't hold anything heavy
I've had zero success with no more nails holding its own weight to anything
We need to sort out a new storage solution for our CDs. We previously had them in tall, thin wooden thingies with lots of shelves, but after moving them we realised just how ruddy heavy they were and probably not too great for the stairs they were on. Shelves on the wall sound great but I might prefer some lightweight upright racks.
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We need to sort out a new storage solution for our CDs. We previously had them in tall, thin wooden thingies with lots of shelves, but after moving them we realised just how ruddy heavy they were and probably not too great for the stairs they were on. Shelves on the wall sound great but I might prefer some lightweight upright racks.
Kids telling me to subscribe to Spotify instead will be banned.
i ripped all my CDs that weren't, like, irreplaceable several years ago and then took them to the used book store and just said "i'll take whatever you'll give me for the entire lot" and i don't regret having done it
We ripped all our cds years ago and rarely watch any but a few of our DVDs, so last year we bought two 400 disc storage books and threw away (almost) all the inserts and cases. Now they take up like 1 linear foot of shelf space instead of an entire stuffed bookshelf.
Pretty sure we've gone into them like once since we moved them and no regrets.
Hmmm big storage books for our DVDs might be a reasonable idea.
In the back of my head something is saying but wait you need to keep it all in pristine condition but DVDs are worth like pennies now so a big, handy book might be a lot better, at least for most of them.
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Ahh I just watched a tutorial on a floating shelf and it involves making your own sort of integral wooden bracket. I see now that this was ambitious.
Assuming this would be low weight bearing (certainly under 20lbs) does it just come down to aesthetics??
Yep
Most floating shelves I've seen come with their own bracket, as opposed to having to make one, see example for Ikea's:
The bracket is attached to the wall, then the shelf slides onto it
Yes, it's primarily an aesthetic thing
Please guide my hands
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Just glue it
What if he glues them to his hands
Kinda depends on your walls and how much weight you would want to put on the shelves. Even if you go for a shelf where you see the support structure you need to be mindful of that.
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even if you know that the static load is under 20lbs, people lean or reach on shelves surprisingly frequently without thinking
don't get plastic-edged particleboard shelves though - the frequent bumping on the corners means that it looks worn very quickly. I have some such shelves and they don't look great. Ikea sells a more expensive one in aspen (TRANHULT)
Studs are easier, anchors are fine. People say this because you can make a fixing into studs strong enough that you get a a shelf that it's more or less impossible to overload unless you're using it to display your cannonball collection. Anchors are not as strong when you compare single fixing points but you can offset that by using more of them if you need to.
The particular anchor you use will depend on the construction of the wall. Generally wall fixings that come with a shelf are not good or are unsuitable and buying the correct fixings and using them instead makes a huge difference.
The anchors you buy should have a guide weight rating, these are additive, so in principle 3x5kg anchors gives you a total weight of 15kg. The limiting factors are that at some point you overwhelm the strength of the drywall itself, and you can't place anchors too close together because doing so creates weak spots.
A good rule of thumb for weight rating is that 1 metre of books arranged on a shelf can weigh about 20-25kg, which gives a reasonable upper limit for the amount of weight any given shelf is ever likely to need to hold. If the shelf can take that with a reasonable margin then it's probably strong enough
Last note: floating shelves are by definition not as strong as bracketed shelves, because anything you place on them is going to try to lever the fixing out of the wall. Do not fill a floating shelf with books, regardless of fixing type.
This has been overthinking shelves with japan
You can actually get away with this
My parent's kitchen has a set of small shelves filling a gap where the brackets are fixed to the tile with generic grab adhesive (similar to "no more nails")
They've stayed up fine, but crucially they don't hold anything heavy
Glue is actually incredibly strong, the problem is people are generally gluing to paint.
I've had zero success with no more nails holding its own weight to anything
No! More nails!
Maybe by the time I can buy a house in 20 years I’ll be ready for real projects
Woodworkers generally go "these brad nails are just to hold the pieces in place while the glue dries".
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i ripped all my CDs that weren't, like, irreplaceable several years ago and then took them to the used book store and just said "i'll take whatever you'll give me for the entire lot" and i don't regret having done it
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How about a skip...
Well, I had a good run.
you say that like its a bad thing...
Pretty sure we've gone into them like once since we moved them and no regrets.
swerve, peasants
In the back of my head something is saying but wait you need to keep it all in pristine condition but DVDs are worth like pennies now so a big, handy book might be a lot better, at least for most of them.
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