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[Canadian Politics Thread] Government-running Cons accused of running cons in government

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    Disco11Disco11 Registered User regular
    Elaro wrote: »
    Demographic aging is a freight train already slamming into the country. Immigration is the only lever they really have so they're pulling it as hard as they can to offset it, but aging is a problem on such a huge scale that we can only blunt the impact. Examples like Japan are pretty worrying.

    *snip*

    It's not a lever that will affect housing prices in any meaningful way, according to this article in The Conversation.
    In reality, Canada’s housing shortage was fuelled for decades by myriad factors, including municipal zoning laws, developers’ special interests and public policy on housing. As other scholars have argued, curbing migration is not a solution to this complex issue, nor is it moral.

    The feds actually do have a lever in funding housing construction.
    The right to housing — which Canada has promised to enforce in numerous international covenants — was enshrined in Canadian law by the current government in 2019.
    Trudeau seems to have forgotten about the federal government’s previous involvement in housing. After the Second World War, the Canadian government helped create a million low-cost Victory Houses using government land, direct grants and industrialized production processes that allowed new homes to be assembled in as little as 36 hours.

    From the mid-1960s to the mid-1980s, between 10 and 20 per cent of new construction was non-market housing — public, community and co-op — supported through federal land, grants and financing partnerships with provincial and municipal governments.

    As a result of federal government actions, the average home cost 2.5 times the average household income in 1980. Today, the average home in Canada costs 8.8 times the average income, with homes in Toronto and Vancouver costing 13.2 and 14.4 times respectively.

    I wonder if the feds can't establish a housing construction program that fast-track the immigration process of any immigrant that apply to work for it. Something like "sign up to help build housing in Canada for 5 years and, unless you've been convicted of a major crime, your immigration application (and those of your spouse and children) is automatically accepted".

    We have a construction labor shortage, after all.
    There are tens of thousands of unfilled construction jobs across the country — including up to 20,000 open positions in Ontario alone — that the Labourers' International Union of North America (LiUNA) says it could fill, if only it could find the workers.

    More hands would be better, and having a Federal Home Building Corps would be a good way to alleviate concerns that "immigrants are competing with us for houses".

    The thing about construction is no one's gonna do a bunch of ohsa violations for 15$ a hour

    Yes, they will. Have you spent much time on Job sites? You need to put the fear of god in them to wear basic PPE. Also, you are assuming that recent immigrants even know what OSHA is.

    While trades do pay well, they have lagged keeping up with inflation. Alberta-specific problems ahead: we are currently in a crisis where we can't train people fast enough as it is. Tradespeople were making more $$$ 10 years ago during boom times than they are now, leading to a massive flight of tradespeople, most of whom were originally not from AB.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/skilled-trades-education-1.6773564


    My youngest stepson is going into electrical and his older brothers are all in the trades. Worries me a lot, the industry is ROUGH on people.


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    ElaroElaro Apologetic Registered User regular
    edited January 24
    I was thinking the FHBC would be government-run, pay better than minimum wage, and hire anyone. Sort of like the Forces, but for building things rather than fighting them.

    Elaro on
    Children's rights are human rights.
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    Disco11Disco11 Registered User regular
    Elaro wrote: »
    I was thinking the FHBC would be government-run, pay better than minimum wage, and hire anyone. Sort of like the Forces, but for building things rather than fighting them.

    That would be ideal but other logistics would kick in. Trade unions are a thing and they would have thoughts on that.

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    The Cow KingThe Cow King a island Registered User regular
    edited January 26
    Disco11 wrote: »
    Elaro wrote: »
    Demographic aging is a freight train already slamming into the country. Immigration is the only lever they really have so they're pulling it as hard as they can to offset it, but aging is a problem on such a huge scale that we can only blunt the impact. Examples like Japan are pretty worrying.

    *snip*

    It's not a lever that will affect housing prices in any meaningful way, according to this article in The Conversation.
    In reality, Canada’s housing shortage was fuelled for decades by myriad factors, including municipal zoning laws, developers’ special interests and public policy on housing. As other scholars have argued, curbing migration is not a solution to this complex issue, nor is it moral.

    The feds actually do have a lever in funding housing construction.
    The right to housing — which Canada has promised to enforce in numerous international covenants — was enshrined in Canadian law by the current government in 2019.
    Trudeau seems to have forgotten about the federal government’s previous involvement in housing. After the Second World War, the Canadian government helped create a million low-cost Victory Houses using government land, direct grants and industrialized production processes that allowed new homes to be assembled in as little as 36 hours.

    From the mid-1960s to the mid-1980s, between 10 and 20 per cent of new construction was non-market housing — public, community and co-op — supported through federal land, grants and financing partnerships with provincial and municipal governments.

    As a result of federal government actions, the average home cost 2.5 times the average household income in 1980. Today, the average home in Canada costs 8.8 times the average income, with homes in Toronto and Vancouver costing 13.2 and 14.4 times respectively.

    I wonder if the feds can't establish a housing construction program that fast-track the immigration process of any immigrant that apply to work for it. Something like "sign up to help build housing in Canada for 5 years and, unless you've been convicted of a major crime, your immigration application (and those of your spouse and children) is automatically accepted".

    We have a construction labor shortage, after all.
    There are tens of thousands of unfilled construction jobs across the country — including up to 20,000 open positions in Ontario alone — that the Labourers' International Union of North America (LiUNA) says it could fill, if only it could find the workers.

    More hands would be better, and having a Federal Home Building Corps would be a good way to alleviate concerns that "immigrants are competing with us for houses".

    The thing about construction is no one's gonna do a bunch of ohsa violations for 15$ a hour

    Yes, they will. Have you spent much time on Job sites? You need to put the fear of god in them to wear basic PPE. Also, you are assuming that recent immigrants even know what OSHA is.

    While trades do pay well, they have lagged keeping up with inflation. Alberta-specific problems ahead: we are currently in a crisis where we can't train people fast enough as it is. Tradespeople were making more $$$ 10 years ago during boom times than they are now, leading to a massive flight of tradespeople, most of whom were originally not from AB.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/skilled-trades-education-1.6773564


    My youngest stepson is going into electrical and his older brothers are all in the trades. Worries me a lot, the industry is ROUGH on people.


    Fair but with these new fed rules that's gonna be less true

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    Disco11Disco11 Registered User regular
    Disco11 wrote: »
    Elaro wrote: »
    Demographic aging is a freight train already slamming into the country. Immigration is the only lever they really have so they're pulling it as hard as they can to offset it, but aging is a problem on such a huge scale that we can only blunt the impact. Examples like Japan are pretty worrying.

    *snip*

    It's not a lever that will affect housing prices in any meaningful way, according to this article in The Conversation.
    In reality, Canada’s housing shortage was fuelled for decades by myriad factors, including municipal zoning laws, developers’ special interests and public policy on housing. As other scholars have argued, curbing migration is not a solution to this complex issue, nor is it moral.

    The feds actually do have a lever in funding housing construction.
    The right to housing — which Canada has promised to enforce in numerous international covenants — was enshrined in Canadian law by the current government in 2019.
    Trudeau seems to have forgotten about the federal government’s previous involvement in housing. After the Second World War, the Canadian government helped create a million low-cost Victory Houses using government land, direct grants and industrialized production processes that allowed new homes to be assembled in as little as 36 hours.

    From the mid-1960s to the mid-1980s, between 10 and 20 per cent of new construction was non-market housing — public, community and co-op — supported through federal land, grants and financing partnerships with provincial and municipal governments.

    As a result of federal government actions, the average home cost 2.5 times the average household income in 1980. Today, the average home in Canada costs 8.8 times the average income, with homes in Toronto and Vancouver costing 13.2 and 14.4 times respectively.

    I wonder if the feds can't establish a housing construction program that fast-track the immigration process of any immigrant that apply to work for it. Something like "sign up to help build housing in Canada for 5 years and, unless you've been convicted of a major crime, your immigration application (and those of your spouse and children) is automatically accepted".

    We have a construction labor shortage, after all.
    There are tens of thousands of unfilled construction jobs across the country — including up to 20,000 open positions in Ontario alone — that the Labourers' International Union of North America (LiUNA) says it could fill, if only it could find the workers.

    More hands would be better, and having a Federal Home Building Corps would be a good way to alleviate concerns that "immigrants are competing with us for houses".

    The thing about construction is no one's gonna do a bunch of ohsa violations for 15$ a hour

    Yes, they will. Have you spent much time on Job sites? You need to put the fear of god in them to wear basic PPE. Also, you are assuming that recent immigrants even know what OSHA is.

    While trades do pay well, they have lagged keeping up with inflation. Alberta-specific problems ahead: we are currently in a crisis where we can't train people fast enough as it is. Tradespeople were making more $$$ 10 years ago during boom times than they are now, leading to a massive flight of tradespeople, most of whom were originally not from AB.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/skilled-trades-education-1.6773564


    My youngest stepson is going into electrical and his older brothers are all in the trades. Worries me a lot, the industry is ROUGH on people.


    Fair but with these new fed rules that's gonna be less true

    I expect Danielle Smith is writing up the lawsuit as we speak.

    PSN: Canadian_llama
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    darkmayodarkmayo Registered User regular
    edited January 26
    Disco11 wrote: »
    Elaro wrote: »
    Demographic aging is a freight train already slamming into the country. Immigration is the only lever they really have so they're pulling it as hard as they can to offset it, but aging is a problem on such a huge scale that we can only blunt the impact. Examples like Japan are pretty worrying.

    *snip*

    It's not a lever that will affect housing prices in any meaningful way, according to this article in The Conversation.
    In reality, Canada’s housing shortage was fuelled for decades by myriad factors, including municipal zoning laws, developers’ special interests and public policy on housing. As other scholars have argued, curbing migration is not a solution to this complex issue, nor is it moral.

    The feds actually do have a lever in funding housing construction.
    The right to housing — which Canada has promised to enforce in numerous international covenants — was enshrined in Canadian law by the current government in 2019.
    Trudeau seems to have forgotten about the federal government’s previous involvement in housing. After the Second World War, the Canadian government helped create a million low-cost Victory Houses using government land, direct grants and industrialized production processes that allowed new homes to be assembled in as little as 36 hours.

    From the mid-1960s to the mid-1980s, between 10 and 20 per cent of new construction was non-market housing — public, community and co-op — supported through federal land, grants and financing partnerships with provincial and municipal governments.

    As a result of federal government actions, the average home cost 2.5 times the average household income in 1980. Today, the average home in Canada costs 8.8 times the average income, with homes in Toronto and Vancouver costing 13.2 and 14.4 times respectively.

    I wonder if the feds can't establish a housing construction program that fast-track the immigration process of any immigrant that apply to work for it. Something like "sign up to help build housing in Canada for 5 years and, unless you've been convicted of a major crime, your immigration application (and those of your spouse and children) is automatically accepted".

    We have a construction labor shortage, after all.
    There are tens of thousands of unfilled construction jobs across the country — including up to 20,000 open positions in Ontario alone — that the Labourers' International Union of North America (LiUNA) says it could fill, if only it could find the workers.

    More hands would be better, and having a Federal Home Building Corps would be a good way to alleviate concerns that "immigrants are competing with us for houses".

    The thing about construction is no one's gonna do a bunch of ohsa violations for 15$ a hour

    Yes, they will. Have you spent much time on Job sites? You need to put the fear of god in them to wear basic PPE. Also, you are assuming that recent immigrants even know what OSHA is.

    Yea.. reminded of my friend who got bull's eyed right in the pupil with a piece of metal flying off a nail gun that didn't have the proper guards on it anymore, wasn't wearing his eyewear either. (He is very lucky.. after surgery he did get pretty much all of his eyesight back in that eye..) if it can get taken off easily or is a pain to put on then they don't get worn. Maybe steel toe boots are the one thing that is worn since you wear them right to the job site.

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    RichyRichy Registered User regular
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